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Post by GameTime on Aug 15, 2018 7:20:23 GMT -5
it happens every season.....why should this be any different. Excuses for preseason, panic in preseason, over joyed in preseason. If the regular season turns to crap this board, or many on here, will have a freaking melt down. Its going to be a very up and down season IMO. I was thinking 10-6 but I always think that in the beginning. The individual I am concerned about the most performing well is Eli. In general also very concerned about the quality depth overall on the roster. If I had to pick a group of players to be concerned with I think the DBs would be it. I think its fairly obvious our DBs are going to be the weak spot. This was BEFORE the offseason too, so Gettleman could have addressed it. Sam Beal was being relied on IMO to be an immediate impact guy. And you are dead on with calling out Eli. Its been a long time since he performed well for an extended time. The blame always got thrown around everywhere else, but the QB needs to do his job. Im thinking more like 8-8 is our ceiling this year. While I am concerned about Eli's performance I am certainly not blind to his surrounding cast of poor play, injuries, and bad coaching as well. I always wonder what is in a GM's head and WHO is in his ear regarding the direction they go in and why.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 15, 2018 7:21:11 GMT -5
I think its fairly obvious our DBs are going to be the weak spot. This was BEFORE the offseason too, so Gettleman could have addressed it. Sam Beal was being relied on IMO to be an immediate impact guy. And you are dead on with calling out Eli. Its been a long time since he performed well for an extended time. The blame always got thrown around everywhere else, but the QB needs to do his job. Im thinking more like 8-8 is our ceiling this year. Is DRC so washed up that they won't even bother to resign him after how inept the Corners look in practice and the game? I know he had a down year in 2017 but I would think he is definitely an upgrade over twist himself into a pretzel Apple... no way DRC is an outside CB anymore. Maybe a good slot but thats it.
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Post by jb456 on Aug 15, 2018 7:35:44 GMT -5
Is DRC so washed up that they won't even bother to resign him after how inept the Corners look in practice and the game? I know he had a down year in 2017 but I would think he is definitely an upgrade over twist himself into a pretzel Apple... no way DRC is an outside CB anymore. Maybe a good slot but thats it. I definitely agree that DRC would probably be a better slot corner but Apple is so bad that he actually might be an upgrade on the outside as well. Everyone here (including myself) says Flowers could be Reese's worst draft pick but Apple was also a top 10 pick and he stinks as well. There is absolutely no way that the Giants pick up Apple's fifth year option if he continues to play this way and he could eventually be riding the pine/cut. SMDH, Reese is very close to having 2 TWO 10 ten draft busts.....
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Post by GameTime on Aug 15, 2018 7:55:44 GMT -5
no way DRC is an outside CB anymore. Maybe a good slot but thats it. I definitely agree that DRC would probably be a better slot corner but Apple is so bad that he actually might be an upgrade on the outside as well. Everyone here (including myself) says Flowers could be Reese's worst draft pick but Apple was also a top 10 pick and he stinks as well. There is absolutely no way that the Giants pick up Apple's fifth year option if he continues to play this way and he could eventually be riding the pine/cut. SMDH, Reese is very close to having 2 TWO 10 ten draft busts..... whats done is done. Reese is gone and thats that. I still have hope for both players. I guess because its better than thinking they wont be any good....lol Apple just seems a like he cant get the idea that he has to look back. I mean he is usually in a very good position. I just dont understand why a CB doesnt "look" for the ball??
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 15, 2018 8:06:54 GMT -5
I definitely agree that DRC would probably be a better slot corner but Apple is so bad that he actually might be an upgrade on the outside as well. Everyone here (including myself) says Flowers could be Reese's worst draft pick but Apple was also a top 10 pick and he stinks as well. There is absolutely no way that the Giants pick up Apple's fifth year option if he continues to play this way and he could eventually be riding the pine/cut. SMDH, Reese is very close to having 2 TWO 10 ten draft busts..... whats done is done. Reese is gone and thats that. I still have hope for both players. I guess because its better than thinking they wont be any good....lol Apple just seems a like he cant get the idea that he has to look back. I mean he is usually in a very good position. I just dont understand why a CB doesnt "look" for the ball?? Both players just seem to have fundamental flaws that they cannot fix. Although I did think Flowers was ok last week. At some point its all on the player and their ability, intelligence, and drive. Only so much a coach can do.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 15, 2018 8:10:39 GMT -5
it happens every season.....why should this be any different. Excuses for preseason, panic in preseason, over joyed in preseason. If the regular season turns to crap this board, or many on here, will have a freaking melt down. Its going to be a very up and down season IMO. I was thinking 10-6 but I always think that in the beginning. The individual I am concerned about the most performing well is Eli. In general also very concerned about the quality depth overall on the roster. If I had to pick a group of players to be concerned with I think the DBs would be it. 33-47. That is our record during the regular season over the last 5 years. It's not like we've had a habit of turning poor play in preseason into winning football.
When was the last time I saw good football in the preseason? Maybe 2010, when Victo Cruz torched the Jets. That translated to a SB championship the next year.
PLEASE Giants....give me something from the players that matter. I want to see good play from the guys who will be on the roster in 2018.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 15, 2018 8:18:40 GMT -5
whats done is done. Reese is gone and thats that. I still have hope for both players. I guess because its better than thinking they wont be any good....lol Apple just seems a like he cant get the idea that he has to look back. I mean he is usually in a very good position. I just dont understand why a CB doesnt "look" for the ball?? Both players just seem to have fundamental flaws that they cannot fix. Although I did think Flowers was ok last week. At some point its all on the player and their ability, intelligence, and drive. Only so much a coach can do. yes....great point. They may be "uncoachable".....or they just cant cut it in the NFL.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 15, 2018 8:19:16 GMT -5
it happens every season.....why should this be any different. Excuses for preseason, panic in preseason, over joyed in preseason. If the regular season turns to crap this board, or many on here, will have a freaking melt down. Its going to be a very up and down season IMO. I was thinking 10-6 but I always think that in the beginning. The individual I am concerned about the most performing well is Eli. In general also very concerned about the quality depth overall on the roster. If I had to pick a group of players to be concerned with I think the DBs would be it. 33-47. That is our record during the regular season over the last 5 years. It's not like we've had a habit of turning poor play in preseason into winning football.
When was the last time I saw good football in the preseason? Maybe 2010, when Victo Cruz torched the Jets. That translated to a SB championship the next year.
PLEASE Giants....give me something from the players that matter. I want to see good play from the guys who will be on the roster in 2018.
agreed....no reason to not see some good play from the ones.....no reason at all.
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 15, 2018 22:53:31 GMT -5
It's just one game....that is true. Just saying it would be better to see them play well than play poorly. Our pass rush is brutal and we have 2 legitimate starters in the secondary. Its going to take another off-season or 2 to fix the team. One of the reasons I thought trading down and not taking a RB at 2 was a far more responsible action. I agree but I don't know that there were actually any viable offers to do so.
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