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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 14:17:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 14:41:35 GMT -5
Damn Webb still sailing throws.
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Post by goldenratio on Aug 14, 2018 14:41:45 GMT -5
nice article. nice to get a more objective view, even if it is only 1 practice. thanks for posting.
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Post by Zimonami on Aug 14, 2018 14:55:23 GMT -5
That was good... thank you.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 14, 2018 15:21:51 GMT -5
Not looking good for Webb. The good news is that the team is really showing signs of controlling the trenches.
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Post by Miked1958 on Aug 14, 2018 15:30:12 GMT -5
Eli Apple & Riley getting beat deep and K. Johnson and another back giving giants LBs fits on screen passes. Nothing new there
Positively the Giants mainly won the trenches and said Stewart had considerably big holes to run through and Odell dominating Slay
Odd that Lauletta didn't get more snaps and had to split with Tanney at the end. With Webb floating passes and still looking clueless you would of thought Lauletta would of gotten more looks from coaching staff
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Post by Miked1958 on Aug 14, 2018 15:30:43 GMT -5
Barkley not doing much which is good
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Post by GameTime on Aug 14, 2018 15:38:48 GMT -5
Eli Apple & Riley getting beat deep and K. Johnson and another back giving giants LBs fits on screen passes. Nothing new there Positively the Giants mainly won the trenches and said Stewart had considerably big holes to run through and Odell dominating Slay Odd that Lauletta didn't get more snaps and had to split with Tanney at the end. With Webb floating passes and still looking clueless you would of thought Lauletta would of gotten more looks from coaching staff Maybe giving Webb every opportunity to prove himself. Lauletta is not getting cut most likely. Webb, IMO, is in a prove it or lose it position.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 15:48:15 GMT -5
I'm not going to make a big deal out of some guys opinion who we never heard of before. I'll use the rest of preseason for that. However, I've been vocal about the secondary on the old board and now this one. This group is going to get torched all season long.
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Post by jb456 on Aug 14, 2018 15:52:18 GMT -5
Eli Apple & Riley getting beat deep and K. Johnson and another back giving giants LBs fits on screen passes. Nothing new there Positively the Giants mainly won the trenches and said Stewart had considerably big holes to run through and Odell dominating Slay Odd that Lauletta didn't get more snaps and had to split with Tanney at the end. With Webb floating passes and still looking clueless you would of thought Lauletta would of gotten more looks from coaching staff Maybe giving Webb every opportunity to prove himself. Lauletta is not getting cut most likely. Webb, IMO, is in a prove it or lose it position. I agree with you but damn, image if they cut Webb? He was their 3rd round pick last year, WTF! It's like Reese is kicking the Giants in the nuts from the unemployment line....
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Post by GameTime on Aug 14, 2018 16:06:42 GMT -5
Maybe giving Webb every opportunity to prove himself. Lauletta is not getting cut most likely. Webb, IMO, is in a prove it or lose it position. I agree with you but damn, image if they cut Webb? He was their 3rd round pick last year, WTF! It's like Reese is kicking the Giants in the nuts from the unemployment line.... Nah....he’s a third round QB.....as is Lauletta. The odds of either one becoming a successful NFL QB is not too good. Unless they see either one as “just” a back up and nothing more. Or they can keep three QBs
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 14, 2018 16:14:02 GMT -5
Eli Apple & Riley getting beat deep and K. Johnson and another back giving giants LBs fits on screen passes. Nothing new there Positively the Giants mainly won the trenches and said Stewart had considerably big holes to run through and Odell dominating Slay Odd that Lauletta didn't get more snaps and had to split with Tanney at the end. With Webb floating passes and still looking clueless you would of thought Lauletta would of gotten more looks from coaching staff Maybe giving Webb every opportunity to prove himself. Lauletta is not getting cut most likely. Webb, IMO, is in a prove it or lose it position. Or just giving him as much meaningful time as possible because last year he was basicly 4th string with hardly any reps because somebody had the horrible idea to bring in Josh Johnson when everyone knew he had no shot to win the back up role,and basicly take reps away from Webb.
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Post by moecoastie on Aug 14, 2018 18:26:16 GMT -5
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Post by brownelvis54 on Aug 14, 2018 18:39:51 GMT -5
Not looking good for Webb. The good news is that the team is really showing signs of controlling the trenches. Agreed
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Post by OrangeGiant on Aug 14, 2018 19:24:17 GMT -5
That's the Eli Manning I know......he had to get that jab in there...lol
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 14, 2018 19:36:26 GMT -5
That's the Eli Manning I know......he had to get that jab in there...lol That's ok The Matt Stafford we know will be playing golf in January (not that we should talk lately. )
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Post by ocgiant on Aug 14, 2018 20:00:41 GMT -5
Jeremy gave a fresh perspective on the Giants maybe he should report more for us... since he mentioned the Giants controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball, first team... Secondary concern/comments not encouraging... and Webb just needs the reps at this point so glad to see that decision to let Webb develop consistency, comfort and command of the offense. Lastly, even this writer had an "Eliism" where he praised his performance until the end of practice with poor read and interception. Overall liked it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 20:06:58 GMT -5
That's the Eli Manning I know......he had to get that jab in there...lol thats funny cuz the Eli we know is a 2x SB MVP while their “franchise QB” has yet to win a playoff game.
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 14, 2018 20:26:58 GMT -5
Jeremy gave a fresh perspective on the Giants maybe he should report more for us... since he mentioned the Giants controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball, first team... Secondary concern/comments not encouraging... and Webb just needs the reps at this point so glad to see that decision to let Webb develop consistency, comfort and command of the offense. Lastly, even this writer had an "Eliism" where he praised his performance until the end of practice with poor read and interception. Overall liked it. Definitely like the outside perspective as well,wont sugar coat or overreact over anything.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2018 20:27:03 GMT -5
I agree with you but damn, image if they cut Webb? He was their 3rd round pick last year, WTF! It's like Reese is kicking the Giants in the nuts from the unemployment line.... Nah....he’s a third round QB.....as is Lauletta. The odds of either one becoming a successful NFL QB is not too good. Unless they see either one as “just” a back up and nothing more. Or they can keep three QBs Lauletta was drafted in the 4th round.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 15, 2018 6:43:38 GMT -5
Nah....he’s a third round QB.....as is Lauletta. The odds of either one becoming a successful NFL QB is not too good. Unless they see either one as “just” a back up and nothing more. Or they can keep three QBs Lauletta was drafted in the 4th round. oops.... thanks for the correction. Thats what happens when I try to rely on my memory..
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Post by bringsimmsback on Aug 15, 2018 9:27:36 GMT -5
Jeremy gave a fresh perspective on the Giants maybe he should report more for us... since he mentioned the Giants controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball, first team... Secondary concern/comments not encouraging... and Webb just needs the reps at this point so glad to see that decision to let Webb develop consistency, comfort and command of the offense. Lastly, even this writer had an "Eliism" where he praised his performance until the end of practice with poor read and interception. Overall liked it. Definitely like the outside perspective as well,wont sugar coat or overreact over anything. I also enjoy getting an outside perspective. His note on our controlling the line of scrimmage was particularly encouraging because I've now read/heard from a few sources that our Oline is getting more push than in years past. We may not be opening huge holes yet but at least we are moving the line forward for the most part without letting 2 and 3 defenders through. A runner like SB (hope his nickname will be "Super Bowl" someday), with exceptional jump cut ability, can make a controlled line of scrimmage work so long as he isn't getting hit immediately in the backfield.
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Post by KingCap88 on Aug 15, 2018 9:56:29 GMT -5
That was a good read. Nice to see that Odell's speed is returning and that the Giants have some command of the trenches. Apple getting burned wasn't a shock. If Webb doesn't show some real improvement in the 2nd preseason game then it's time to give Lauletta some more reps. The writer's comment about Eli throwing a pick at the end was funny.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Aug 15, 2018 10:43:36 GMT -5
I personally only think of Webb and Lauletta as backups and imo that's all we need them for. Eli is still our guy for at least another year after this one. Maybe 3 years including this one.imo our next starting QB isn't even on the roster. That's why I thought it would be a waste to draft a QB when a sensational player like Barkley was there. And it worked out with the Browns passing on him. Once every 10-20 years you get a chance to draft a player like this.
I fear I was correct all along as our secondary is a disaster. Plus there is no pass rush and that is a recipe for a total disaster. We could score 30 pts. and still lose. Don't know how we can help this defense at this point with any personal. We already used up our 3rd rd pick for next year.
It's great that Odell looks so good, that's a prayer that hopefully was answered. I hope Barkley sits for the 2nd game and lets look at all the other RB's. Gallman looked real good to me last week. Would like to see him get some reps early vs #1's defenses. Maybe let Odell get his feet wet this week, 2 series at most.
I will not be able to watch this game this week so please everyone pay attention to the defense. Last week I thought we were strong vs run. And Wynn and Francis impressed me with their play on the D line. Would like to watch Riley this week and Adams at safety. Am hoping Carter is a player at LBer. OK that's my 2 cents.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 16, 2018 7:15:37 GMT -5
The best thing I can say is that a couple years ago they went and practiced with the Bengals and they didn't look like an NFL team they were dominated neither team got good work, couple years later they lookalike they can compete they have holes but the whole roster isn't a complete mess.
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