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Post by Roosevelt on Aug 15, 2018 19:56:29 GMT -5
Lorenzo Carter has flashed big-time athleticism and talent since the first day he practiced with the New York Giants and a teammate said he reminded him of LeBron James on the football field. The 6-foot-5 and 250-pound linebacker runs like a tight end and has excellent burst around the edge, but at the collegiate level, one knock on him is that he had one pass rush move -- the speed rush. Just before the start of training camp, the Giants signed outside linebacker Connor Barwin. While Barwin will certainly work his way into the outside linebacker rotation on his own, he has also taken Carter under his wing in hopes of helping teach him multiple pass-rush moves that he can utilize in a live game setting. During Wednesday's joint practice against the Detroit Lions, Carter had his best practice since the start of Giants OTAs this spring. With Barwin sidelined with an undisclosed injury, Carter was able to get one-on-one coaching from the veteran outside linebacker and it made a massive difference. On Wednesday, Barwin played a very active role coaching Giants rookie third-round pick and outside linebacker Lorenzo Carter who is learning a new position (right outside linebacker) and defensive scheme that Barwin has previously said is very similar to ones he's played in during his past stints in the NFL. Barwin has taken a leadership role in the Giants linebacker corps and he has specifically taken Carter under his wing. That says a lot about what Barwin thinks the future holds for the uber-talented rookie linebacker. According to Art Stapleton, Barwin was seen in Carter's ear after every play giving him little tips. After Barwin took Carter aside, the rookie immediately responded with back-to-back plays that would have resulted in back-to-back sacks in a live game setting. Carter's sacks came against Lions left tackle Tyrell Crosby on consecutive plays. In addition to the two would-be sacks (blown dead because it's practice), Carter was making a living in the Lions backfield on the majority of his snaps, per the beat reporters on hand. Last week at practice, Giants defensive coordinator James Bettcher pinpointed Carter when asked to name a player who has really stood out to him in training camp practices. "I’ll tell you a guy that’s had a couple good practices is [Lorenzo Carter]," Bettcher told Giants reporters last week. "Lorenzo’s really had a couple of good practices and as in any rookie, the challenge is to stack them – it’s not to have one day in flash, it’s to have two days and, OK, let’s go correct what we’ve got to correct, then as a young guy, do we see when you go to the field, do we see those corrections happen and do we see it continue to get better? So, we’re looking for a third day in a row from him. He’s had some on and off days, he’s had two pretty good days in a row, and we’re looking for a third good day today." Carter has the talent to emerge as a key subpackage pass rusher -- or potentially more -- and Barwin is going to do everything in his power to help make it happen sooner rather than later. Carter will get another opportunity to translate what he's put on tape in joint practices against the Lions to actual live game action during the team's second preseason game.
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Post by bavarobeast on Aug 15, 2018 20:24:16 GMT -5
I said the day we drafted him he was gonna make a lot of Giants fans glad he's on our team. I've seen him play a lot. Watch out!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 20:37:53 GMT -5
Pretty ideal prospect for where they got him. Glad he has done well right out of the gate...nice to see a 3rd rounder doing well for once
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 20:45:13 GMT -5
I said the day we drafted him he was gonna make a lot of Giants fans glad he's on our team. I've seen him play a lot. Watch out! I agree. I believe he's going to be a beast once he gets acclimated with the NFL.
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Post by JoeyCush on Aug 15, 2018 22:01:21 GMT -5
Hopefully he can be a good pass rusher so in 2 years we wont have to pay OV a boatload of money and possibly make him a cap casualty.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Aug 15, 2018 22:13:40 GMT -5
Coach him up...bulk him up...
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Post by Miked1958 on Aug 15, 2018 22:16:46 GMT -5
Hopefully he can be a good pass rusher so in 2 years we wont have to pay OV a boatload of money and possibly make him a cap casualty. Yes we have not had great LBs since the glory days. About time the Giants get one to pan out
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Post by JoeyCush on Aug 15, 2018 22:20:33 GMT -5
Hopefully he can be a good pass rusher so in 2 years we wont have to pay OV a boatload of money and possibly make him a cap casualty. Yes we have not had great LBs since the glory days. About time the Giants get one to pan out Wait you mean Clint Sintim, Phillip Dillard, Adrian Tracy and Greg Jones werent good?!
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Post by Blue Hulk on Aug 15, 2018 22:25:58 GMT -5
Adrian Tracy was a a preseason HOF'er
Mini Osi
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Post by Miked1958 on Aug 16, 2018 2:11:45 GMT -5
Yes we have not had great LBs since the glory days. About time the Giants get one to pan out Wait you mean Clint Sintim, Phillip Dillard, Adrian Tracy and Greg Jones werent good?! dude sadly we can list a lot more then just those
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 16, 2018 6:08:34 GMT -5
Drafting Clit Sintim over Max Unger to me was by far the worst pick Reese made and the beginning of his "spaz era". Sintim was only a 3/4 edge rusher and might have actually been decent enough in a 3/4,let's draft a square peg for a round hole,meanwhile there was a stud center sitting there that could have been groomed to take over for Ohare(maybe even some playing time as Suebert started to break down in 2009,people forget the slow decay of the line started in the latter half of 2009).
As far as Carter,one of the 2 players on that Georgia defense that took over that playoff game vs the Sooners (along with Roquon Smith)in the 2nd half. Made Orlando Brown his bitch(also the exact moment Brown was taken off my personal want list for the 2018 draft) Ecstatic when we selected him.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 16, 2018 6:19:56 GMT -5
seems to have a great base of talent and is coachable as well. Excited to see him progress. Hopefully he can get the hang of covering too. Seems to have the speed.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 16, 2018 9:43:35 GMT -5
Pretty ideal prospect for where they got him. Glad he has done well right out of the gate...nice to see a 3rd rounder doing well for once LOL it's actually shocking they have 2 of them that are doing good things, at one point I wouldn't even get my hopes up about the 3rd round and down.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 9:56:41 GMT -5
I never understood all the praise for a player due to their good showing at practice...
Always hopeful that ALL the draft picks are much better than expected but sadly that is never the case...
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Post by shocknaweny on Aug 16, 2018 10:04:16 GMT -5
Pretty ideal prospect for where they got him. Glad he has done well right out of the gate...nice to see a 3rd rounder doing well for once
It certainly is
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Post by TEM on Aug 16, 2018 15:13:13 GMT -5
We need him to play well. Our 2 starting pass rushers can not sustain being in the 90% club anymore.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 16, 2018 19:32:17 GMT -5
We need him to play well. Our 2 starting pass rushers can not sustain being in the 90% club anymore. Exactly.....they need a freaking valid rotation.......
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Aug 16, 2018 20:31:26 GMT -5
If Carter can become a pass rusher he'll be the only one we have. May he have success as quickly as possible.
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Post by bringsimmsback on Aug 16, 2018 21:02:37 GMT -5
I know the focus of the thread is love for Carter but have to give props to Barwin also. Great signing so far (have a long way to go obviously).
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Post by Roswell on Aug 16, 2018 21:39:45 GMT -5
Zo Carter is the X factor.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 21:51:35 GMT -5
Adrian Tracy was a a preseason HOF'er Mini Osi The JPP of... nevermind.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 21:55:33 GMT -5
Really liked this pick. Mocked him to us in every mock draft he was there where we picked him. On track so far, looked promising in the Browns game, we'll see.
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Post by TCHOF on Aug 17, 2018 6:55:10 GMT -5
Good to hear
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