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Post by finngiant on Nov 13, 2019 16:13:31 GMT -5
If we fire Shurmur after this year my guess is we try to hire a coach with HC experience that has had success to Make sure we do not miss again.
Mccarthy skipped this season but wants to coach next year. He had Favre and Rogers in GB which helps but has a good record as HC:
Head coaching record
Regular season:
125–77–2 (.618)
Postseason:
10–8 (.556)
Career:
135–85–2 (.613)
What do you think could he be our guy?
His last season was not good but same thing with Andy Reid and he has new life in Kansas.
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Post by finngiant on Nov 13, 2019 16:44:29 GMT -5
You might want to check out other threads first .................................................. I did and se have Shurmur vs ben. We also have Bellichik, schwartz and Harbaugh seperately. College coaches mentioned in those but not much about Mccarthy or I just missed it. |
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Post by snyder55 on Nov 13, 2019 16:48:24 GMT -5
I wouldn't be against hiring McCarthy, always seemed like a solid professional coach with a decent track record. What I don't want is any more coaches with no head coaching experience...
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 13, 2019 16:48:32 GMT -5
It would be Ben 2.0
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Post by GameTime on Nov 13, 2019 16:50:05 GMT -5
Sounds good and he's still pretty young.
Is he good with young QBs? Other than him being the former coach of the Pack I dont know much about him
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Post by shocknaweny on Nov 13, 2019 16:50:47 GMT -5
I would prefer Harbaugh but I would not hate that hire
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Post by GameTime on Nov 13, 2019 16:51:03 GMT -5
nah...just because Mac was under him means nothing as far as HC ability |
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Post by GameTime on Nov 13, 2019 16:52:13 GMT -5
I would prefer Harbaugh but I would not hate that hire I think Harbaugh is an actually nut job. I mean like clinically.... Not a coach I would want at all. Didnt he bail on his NFL team? Or was he let go? |
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Post by shocknaweny on Nov 13, 2019 16:57:27 GMT -5
I would prefer Harbaugh but I would not hate that hire I think Harbaugh is an actually nut job. I mean like clinically.... Not a coach I would want at all. Didnt he bail on his NFL team? Or was he let go? Was a power struggle with the GM I believe....wherever he has been he has turned the culture around and FAST....aka Stanford, SF and Michigan |
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Post by GameTime on Nov 13, 2019 17:00:30 GMT -5
I think Harbaugh is an actually nut job. I mean like clinically.... Not a coach I would want at all. Didnt he bail on his NFL team? Or was he let go? Was a power struggle with the GM I believe....wherever he has been he has turned the culture around and FAST....aka Stanford, SF and Michigan what about his success in the NFL? I know Shurmur doesnt have it either but we are talking about Harbaugh...  |
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Post by shocknaweny on Nov 13, 2019 17:02:14 GMT -5
He took 49ers to the Super Bowl in 2013
That is pretty good
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Post by smitty on Nov 13, 2019 17:05:59 GMT -5
Was a power struggle with the GM I believe....wherever he has been he has turned the culture around and FAST....aka Stanford, SF and Michigan what about his success in the NFL? I know Shurmur doesnt have it either but we are talking about Harbaugh... He took SF to a SB. |
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 13, 2019 17:07:54 GMT -5
Was a power struggle with the GM I believe....wherever he has been he has turned the culture around and FAST....aka Stanford, SF and Michigan what about his success in the NFL? I know Shurmur doesnt have it either but we are talking about Harbaugh... 3 straight trips to the NFC championship game. 1 super bowl appearance. Shurmur couldn’t hold Harbaughs jock. Jim’s worst season would be Shurmurs pinnacle of his career |
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Post by shocknaweny on Nov 13, 2019 17:09:30 GMT -5
44-19-1 in the NFL
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 13, 2019 17:11:20 GMT -5
Flip that and you will have Pat Shurmurs coaching record. |
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Post by GameTime on Nov 13, 2019 17:14:08 GMT -5
what about his success in the NFL? I know Shurmur doesnt have it either but we are talking about Harbaugh... 3 straight trips to the NFC championship game. 1 super bowl appearance. Shurmur couldn’t hold Harbaughs jock. Jim’s worst season would be Shurmurs pinnacle of his career yeah...I didnt take the time to check all this out.....which I obviously forgot Still dont like him. I think he's legit nuts |
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Post by southerner on Nov 13, 2019 17:16:21 GMT -5
If we fire Shurmur after this year my guess is we try to hire a coach with HC experience that has had success to Make sure we do not miss again. Mccarthy skipped this season but wants to coach next year. He had Favre and Rogers in GB which helps but has a good record as HC: Head coaching record Regular season: 125–77–2 (.618) Postseason: 10–8 (.556) Career: 135–85–2 (.613) What do you think could he be our guy? His last season was not good but same thing with Andy Reid and he has new life in Kansas. Just can’t see it....hiring McCarthy is like hiring McAdoo’s father to be head coach. |
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Post by shocknaweny on Nov 13, 2019 17:17:04 GMT -5
3 straight trips to the NFC championship game. 1 super bowl appearance. Shurmur couldn’t hold Harbaughs jock. Jim’s worst season would be Shurmurs pinnacle of his career yeah...I didnt take the time to check all this out.....which I obviously forgot Still dont like him. I think he's legit nuts But can he coach ..... |
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 13, 2019 17:20:04 GMT -5
what about his success in the NFL? I know Shurmur doesnt have it either but we are talking about Harbaugh... 3 straight trips to the NFC championship game. 1 super bowl appearance. Shurmur couldn’t hold Harbaughs jock. Jim’s worst season would be Shurmurs pinnacle of his career You're being too kind.
So far the "pinnacle" of Pat Shurmur's career is 5-11. |
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Post by Kruunch on Nov 13, 2019 17:20:45 GMT -5
yeah...I didnt take the time to check all this out.....which I obviously forgot Still dont like him. I think he's legit nuts But can he coach ..... Hell of a coach. Just look at the history of the NFL. The best coaches are jerks, ego maniacs, tyrants, border line insane individuals. But at the end of the day they get there team ready to play and they win more than they lose. Our head coach is an extremely nice guy. Terrible coach, but a guy I would trust to watch my dog when I’m away. |
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 13, 2019 17:23:25 GMT -5
Hell of a coach. Just look at the history of the NFL. The best coaches are jerks, ego maniacs, tyrants, border line insane individuals. But at the end of the day they get there team ready to play and they win more than they lose. Our head coach is an extremely nice guy. Terrible coach, but a guy I would trust to watch my dog when I’m away. I'm telling you....He's a "lovable loser".
Seems like a keeper. Because love is all you need.
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Post by GameTime on Nov 13, 2019 17:25:05 GMT -5
yeah...I didnt take the time to check all this out.....which I obviously forgot Still dont like him. I think he's legit nuts But can he coach ..... Of course he can....I just am not a fan. I am not saying I am right in my thoughts on this I would be though if he became the NYGs HC |
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 13, 2019 17:27:45 GMT -5
Of course he can....I just am not a fan. I am not saying I am right in my thoughts on this I would be though if he became the NYGs HC The guy I would compare Harbaugh to is Pete Carroll. He's definitely a little off. And that guy can coach.
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Post by finngiant on Nov 13, 2019 17:39:44 GMT -5
So some interest but less than for Harbaugh.
Agree that Harbaugh seems like a great coach for a few seasons but could be gone because of personal problems with team or GM or owners.
Mccarthy is offensive minded with a good track record. He could be good for Daniel Jones but requires a good DC. He seems like a guy our owners could actually hire.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 13, 2019 17:43:19 GMT -5
So some interest but less than for Harbaugh. Agree that Harbaugh seems like a great coach for a few seasons but could be gone because of personal problems with team or GM or owners. Mccarthy is offensive minded with a good track record. He could be good for Daniel Jones but requires a good DC. He seems like a guy our owners could actually hire. Problem is that his version of the WCO is a very rigid stale outdated version,also runs it exclusively out of the 11. Now staying exclusively in the 11 you can be run heavy,the Rams are an exclusive 11 formation team and blasted the Cowboys to oblivion in that set in the playoff game . |
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Post by DrRumack on Nov 13, 2019 17:44:22 GMT -5
McCarthy games as HC: 222. McAdoo games as HC (prior to hire): 0. Not quite the same. |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Nov 13, 2019 17:45:02 GMT -5
He was McAdoo's mentor...I will pass.
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Post by DrRumack on Nov 13, 2019 17:45:36 GMT -5
So do we create a new thread for every HC we desire? Or just randomly post it in some random thread?
Because I’d like to submit Robert Saleh.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Nov 13, 2019 17:48:44 GMT -5
So some interest but less than for Harbaugh. Agree that Harbaugh seems like a great coach for a few seasons but could be gone because of personal problems with team or GM or owners. Mccarthy is offensive minded with a good track record. He could be good for Daniel Jones but requires a good DC. He seems like a guy our owners could actually hire. Problem is that his version of the WCO is a very rigid stale outdated version,also runs it exclusively out of the 11. Now staying exclusively in the 11 you can be run heavy,the Rams are an exclusive 11 formation team and blasted the Cowboys to oblivion in that set in the playoff game . [b Exactly, McAdoo ran the 11 like 90 percent of the time, does everyone forget how predictable his offense was? |
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Post by InDabsWeTrust on Nov 13, 2019 17:49:27 GMT -5
Pleas no more WCO. I'm sick of it. Give us something modern that is being used by the top teams.
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