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Post by finngiant on Nov 13, 2019 17:50:48 GMT -5
He was McAdoo's mentor...I will pass. So would you say that TC sucks because spags failed as HC or that Bellichick sucks based on how McDaniels was in Denver??
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Post by finngiant on Nov 13, 2019 17:55:48 GMT -5
So some interest but less than for Harbaugh. Agree that Harbaugh seems like a great coach for a few seasons but could be gone because of personal problems with team or GM or owners. Mccarthy is offensive minded with a good track record. He could be good for Daniel Jones but requires a good DC. He seems like a guy our owners could actually hire. Problem is that his version of the WCO is a very rigid stale outdated version,also runs it exclusively out of the 11. Now staying exclusively in the 11 you can be run heavy,the Rams are an exclusive 11 formation team and blasted the Cowboys to oblivion in that set in the playoff game . This could really be a challenge as it could be too preditable and old. Also I remember that Rogers was sacked a lot during some seasons. If Jones is sacked a lot with his fumbling problems it might be hard to win games.
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Post by DrRumack on Nov 13, 2019 17:57:40 GMT -5
He was McAdoo's mentor...I will pass. Each man is their own man. Unless Romeo Crenel, Charlie Weiss, Al Groh, Bill O’Brien et al are somehow an indictment on Belichick’s ability as a coach.
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Post by finngiant on Nov 13, 2019 18:00:03 GMT -5
He was McAdoo's mentor...I will pass. Each man is their own man. Unless Romeo Crenel, Charlie Weiss, Al Groh, Bill O’Brien et al are somehow an indictment on Belichick’s ability as a coach. As you mention Bill here is what he said: In March 2015, at the annual owners' meetings, Bill Belichick stated that McCarthy is "one of the best coaches I've ever gone up against."
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 13, 2019 18:01:15 GMT -5
Pleas no more WCO. I'm sick of it. Give us something modern that is being used by the top teams. The WCO is being used by the top teams The top teams also incorporated modern elements such as air raid and RPO We supposedly are running the modern hybrid, Not having enough weapons outside to pull players out of ths middle of the field,shaky O line and a rookie qb(who is actually the perfect fit for this once he developz)ars castrating this offense (Chiefs,Rams,Vikings,ect all run a form of what we run
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Post by southerner on Nov 13, 2019 18:04:10 GMT -5
Whoever they hire should be from the defensive side of the ball. I have a problem with the offensive guy running the team. Defensive guys HCs seem more aware of all positions, offensive and defensive.....examples are Belichek and Pete Carroll. Note how there teams ALWAYS seem to be good or at least competing....both defensive guys. The offensive coaches seem like little kids with their very expensive toys and run out to get there Odell Beckham’s and Saquon Barkley instead of the defensive tackle or offensive guard like the defensive coach is more apt to do. The defensive coaches KNOW the games are won or lost in the trenches....the offensive coach might say it, but they don’t seem to really believe it.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 13, 2019 18:08:59 GMT -5
Lol
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Post by TEM on Nov 13, 2019 18:35:48 GMT -5
If you want a dink dunk offense . He is the guy you want.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 13, 2019 18:49:18 GMT -5
If you want a dink dunk offense . He is the guy you want. Rodgers outplayed that system
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Post by nick030567 on Nov 13, 2019 18:49:19 GMT -5
I would say no. I don't want to see a system like his again, we had it with McAdoo and it was horrible. I like the hybrid Coughlin/McAdoo version mUch better.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 13, 2019 18:52:39 GMT -5
I would say no. I don't want to see a system like his again, we had it with McAdoo and it was horrible. I like the hybrid Coughlin/McAdoo version mUch better. Which is actually what the Saints have been running with Sean Payton Hybrid WCO/Erheardt-Perkins
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Post by TEM on Nov 13, 2019 18:56:19 GMT -5
If you want a dink dunk offense . He is the guy you want. Rodgers outplayed that system He did .I think he was a rare square peg in square hole QB
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Post by TEM on Nov 13, 2019 18:58:49 GMT -5
I would say no. I don't want to see a system like his again, we had it with McAdoo and it was horrible. I like the hybrid Coughlin/McAdoo version mUch better. Which is actually what the Saints have been running with Sean Payton Hybrid WCO/Erheardt-Perkins Why I wanted the Giants to interview Pete Carmichael after Mac was fired.
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Post by nick030567 on Nov 13, 2019 19:06:28 GMT -5
Which is actually what the Saints have been running with Sean Payton Hybrid WCO/Erheardt-Perkins Why I wanted the Giants to interview Pete Carmichael after Mac was fired. I wanted them to hire him when they let Coughlin go. I love that system, my favorite in the league and has been for years. Has the most balance and diversity, it's both modern and old school, that's why it's so great. Just like the Coughlin/Mac offense.
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Post by nick030567 on Nov 13, 2019 19:15:15 GMT -5
I would say no. I don't want to see a system like his again, we had it with McAdoo and it was horrible. I like the hybrid Coughlin/McAdoo version mUch better. Which is actually what the Saints have been running with Sean Payton Hybrid WCO/Erheardt-Perkins Yeah I love their system. My favorite in the league and it has been for years. It has the most balance and diversity, in a way it's both modern (enough) and old school. the diversity is why it's been so great for so long, and they're not afraid to evolve while keeping their identity.The Coughlin/Mac offense was actually my favorite system during the Coughlin era. Although the offenses from 2005-2008 were my favorites overall.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 13, 2019 19:15:52 GMT -5
Why I wanted the Giants to interview Pete Carmichael after Mac was fired. I wanted them to hire him when they let Coughlin go. I love that system, my favorite in the league and has been for years. Has the most balance and diversity, it's both modern and old school, that's why it's so great. Just like the Coughlin/Mac offense. Exactly Which is why I want the OC from LSU if we keep Shurmer Comes from the Saints.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Nov 13, 2019 19:19:53 GMT -5
He was McAdoo's mentor...I will pass. So would you say that TC sucks because spags failed as HC or that Bellichick sucks based on how McDaniels was in Denver?? What? This makes absolutely no sense. TC was an offensive coach, Spags was a DC. I've seen McCarthys offense with GB, and with McAdoo here. Why is McCarthy no longer coaching in GB?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 13, 2019 19:25:38 GMT -5
was just gonna say that thank you, no thank you lol.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 13, 2019 19:31:24 GMT -5
Pleas no more WCO. I'm sick of it. Give us something modern that is being used by the top teams. The WCO is being used by the top teams The top teams also incorporated modern elements such as air raid and RPO We supposedly are running the modern hybrid, Not having enough weapons outside to pull players out of ths middle of the field,shaky O line and a rookie qb(who is actually the perfect fit for this once he developz)ars castrating this offense (Chiefs,Rams,Vikings,ect all run a form of what we run LOL did Shurmur get fired or something this isn't a slam dunk. Shumurs situation with injuries 1st and 2nd year players and a rookie QB is far different then MacAdoo's who let a highly paid vet team they staged a takeover and his team quit.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 13, 2019 19:32:32 GMT -5
Doesn't some one have to get fired first LOL
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 13, 2019 19:41:16 GMT -5
The WCO is being used by the top teams The top teams also incorporated modern elements such as air raid and RPO We supposedly are running the modern hybrid, Not having enough weapons outside to pull players out of ths middle of the field,shaky O line and a rookie qb(who is actually the perfect fit for this once he developz)ars castrating this offense (Chiefs,Rams,Vikings,ect all run a form of what we run LOL did Shurmur get fired or something this isn't a slam dunk. Shumurs situation with injuries 1st and 2nd year players and a rookie QB is far different then MacAdoo's who let a highly paid vet team they staged a takeover and his team quit. Agreed
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Nov 13, 2019 20:03:59 GMT -5
HELL NO to McCarthy!
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Nov 13, 2019 20:05:48 GMT -5
Pleas no more WCO. I'm sick of it. Give us something modern that is being used by the top teams. I know right?! It's funny Jones was known more for his short throw accuracy and not his deep throwing, and yet he has thrown the ball down the field a lot. We need a coach who will take advantage of DJ's mobility.
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Post by rpisco on Nov 14, 2019 12:25:52 GMT -5
No McCarthy, you take Fare and Rodgers away you would have an average team at best.
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Post by jay051 on Nov 14, 2019 12:40:22 GMT -5
No McCarthy, you take Fare and Rodgers away you would have an average team at best. The year Rodgers won a SuperBowl the defense was top 5. Also Favre had some good supporting cast on both sides of the ball during his prime and the last few years he played in Green bay.
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Post by McCherry on Nov 14, 2019 12:46:41 GMT -5
The WCO is being used by the top teams The top teams also incorporated modern elements such as air raid and RPO We supposedly are running the modern hybrid, Not having enough weapons outside to pull players out of ths middle of the field,shaky O line and a rookie qb(who is actually the perfect fit for this once he developz)ars castrating this offense (Chiefs,Rams,Vikings,ect all run a form of what we run Shumurs situation with injuries 1st and 2nd year players and a rookie QBNot to mention his ill advised play-calling, inexplicable decision making, atrocious game management and baffling post-game explanations... Aside from that I have no issue with Shurmur.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 12:49:35 GMT -5
Shumurs situation with injuries 1st and 2nd year players and a rookie QBNot to mention his ill advised play-calling, inexplicable decision making, atrocious game management and baffling post-game explanations... Aside from that I have no issue with Shurmur. That was great!!
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 14, 2019 13:03:52 GMT -5
Shumurs situation with injuries 1st and 2nd year players and a rookie QBNot to mention his ill advised play-calling, inexplicable decision making, atrocious game management and baffling post-game explanations... Aside from that I have no issue with Shurmur. LOL thought you were talking about McCarthey, I'm just stating the facts don't think Mara is looking for reasons to get rid of the coach. They want him to survive and continue coaching Jones.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 13:09:20 GMT -5
Hell no. And I mean HELL NO.
Unless that is, you liked the offence MacAdoo ran.
Keep these slant/flat guys far away from our team please.
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Post by trueblueatnyc on Nov 14, 2019 13:17:41 GMT -5
I think you guys may want to check out some of the stories that came out of Green Bay on why they decided to get rid of McCarthy., the stories on what was going on in the locker room weren't pretty. I don't think he's more than a average coach that rode the back of a great QB and a great DC.
I mean, by the end of the year Rodgers was basically ignoring all of his play calls.
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