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Post by Fletch842 on May 17, 2018 6:49:53 GMT -5
I was checking out some of the changes to kickoffs. I think it will be interesting to see it's impact on on-side kicks. www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000933125/article/nfl-to-consider-several-proposed-kickoff-rule-changes1. Players on the kicking team cannot line up more than one yard from the point of the kickoff. The current rule allows players to line up five yards from the restraining line (typically 35-yard line), allowing them to have more of a running start before the kick. 2. The wedge block has been eliminated. Only players who line up in the setup zone (between their own 40 and opponents' 45-yard line) can put together double-team blocks. 3. Until the ball is touched or hits the ground, no player on the receiving team may cross the restraining line (typically its 45) or initiate a block. This forces blockers on the receiving team to run back and block, which greatly decreases the chance of an "attack" block that can result in a high-speed collision. 4. When the ball hits the end zone, it's immediately ruled a touchback. There is no need for a player to down the ball in the end zone to initiate a touchback. |
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Post by Bigjeep on May 17, 2018 7:18:42 GMT -5
I was checking out some of the changes to kickoffs. I think it will be interesting to see it's impact on on-side kicks. www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000933125/article/nfl-to-consider-several-proposed-kickoff-rule-changes1. Players on the kicking team cannot line up more than one yard from the point of the kickoff. The current rule allows players to line up five yards from the restraining line (typically 35-yard line), allowing them to have more of a running start before the kick. 2. The wedge block has been eliminated. Only players who line up in the setup zone (between their own 40 and opponents' 45-yard line) can put together double-team blocks. 3. Until the ball is touched or hits the ground, no player on the receiving team may cross the restraining line (typically its 45) or initiate a block. This forces blockers on the receiving team to run back and block, which greatly decreases the chance of an "attack" block that can result in a high-speed collision. 4. When the ball hits the end zone, it's immediately ruled a touchback. There is no need for a player to down the ball in the end zone to initiate a touchback. Why not play "Touch" football? That would eliminate most Injuries! I read next year ( 2019 ) that it's 99% done that kickoffs will be eliminated completely except for punts. On Side kicks will also be eliminated. I think the union will not like these changes as special team players will be all but eliminated. |
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Post by jimmieray on May 17, 2018 8:14:21 GMT -5
On side kicks are a huge strategy turning point toward the end of games, even surprise strategies early. This is not a minor tweak.
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Post by fifthavephil on May 17, 2018 8:16:36 GMT -5
There goes all the past records on kickoffs. This game has changed, sometimes
I don't recognize it.
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Post by GameTime on May 17, 2018 8:40:52 GMT -5
I have hard time thinking they will eliminate KOs. Taking away on sides kicks is a joke. How many injuries occur there?? Thats just dumb.
They will have to trim rosters too if they eliminate KOs. Too many guys are ST specialists.
If they do eliminate KOs they better not line up at the 20. Put it back to the 15 or 10 even.
Such BS
The new rules seem not too bad.
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Post by TEM on May 17, 2018 8:41:15 GMT -5
I was checking out some of the changes to kickoffs. I think it will be interesting to see it's impact on on-side kicks. www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000933125/article/nfl-to-consider-several-proposed-kickoff-rule-changes1. Players on the kicking team cannot line up more than one yard from the point of the kickoff. The current rule allows players to line up five yards from the restraining line (typically 35-yard line), allowing them to have more of a running start before the kick. 2. The wedge block has been eliminated. Only players who line up in the setup zone (between their own 40 and opponents' 45-yard line) can put together double-team blocks. 3. Until the ball is touched or hits the ground, no player on the receiving team may cross the restraining line (typically its 45) or initiate a block. This forces blockers on the receiving team to run back and block, which greatly decreases the chance of an "attack" block that can result in a high-speed collision. 4. When the ball hits the end zone, it's immediately ruled a touchback. There is no need for a player to down the ball in the end zone to initiate a touchback. Why not play "Touch" football? That would eliminate most Injuries! I read next year ( 2019 ) that it's 99% done that kickoffs will be eliminated completely except for punts. On Side kicks will also be eliminated. I think the union will not like these changes as special team players will be all but eliminated. And Red Shit the QB ( I actually see that coming) |
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Post by Fletch842 on May 17, 2018 9:10:04 GMT -5
Why not play "Touch" football? That would eliminate most Injuries! I read next year ( 2019 ) that it's 99% done that kickoffs will be eliminated completely except for punts. On Side kicks will also be eliminated. I think the union will not like these changes as special team players will be all but eliminated. And Red Shit the QB ( I actually see that coming) They are a precious commodity you know!!  |
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Post by alwaysready126 on May 17, 2018 9:10:25 GMT -5
The league is in a tough spot. Politicians are forcing their hand. Half of our elected officials think that it’s their job to go after profitable enterprises and the league knows that it’s just a matter of time before these “officials” pass legislation to control the game just like they try to control everything else.
The concussion issue is obviously the driver here. I think the league needs to invest heavily in biotechnology such as stem cell research designed specifically for the reparation of brain tissue. Because even if CTE isn’t what the opposition claims it is, there will always be a stigma that tarnished the perception of the league and all the good it does (and it does a lot more good than bad), goes out the window. If they are able to come up with a biotech solution then they can proclaim themselves as pioneers on the subject and will become saviors for many people outside of football.
I’m sure they are all over this having hired scientists and doctors to come up with solutions. We are not that far away technologically speaking from a general perspective. So maybe the sport and the countries favorite pass time of more ham 50 years will be saved after all.
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Post by GameTime on May 17, 2018 9:23:45 GMT -5
The league is in a tough spot. Politicians are forcing their hand. Half of our elected officials think that it’s their job to go after profitable enterprises and the league knows that it’s just a matter of time before these “officials” pass legislation to control the game just like they try to control everything else. The concussion issue is obviously the driver here. I think the league needs to invest heavily in biotechnology such as stem cell research designed specifically for the reparation of brain tissue. Because even if CTE isn’t what the opposition claims it is, there will always be a stigma that tarnished the perception of the league and all the good it does (and it does a lot more good than bad), goes out the window. If they are able to come up with a biotech solution then they can proclaim themselves as pioneers on the subject and will become saviors for many people outside of football. I’m sure they are all over this having hired scientists and doctors to come up with solutions. We are not that far away technologically speaking from a general perspective. So maybe the sport and the countries favorite pass time of more ham 50 years will be saved after all. very well stated.... like so many things it comes down to cause, effect, and litigation. |
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Post by jmike on May 17, 2018 9:48:57 GMT -5
Guys, football is dying a slow death from many wounds. The softening of the sport is just one cut. In ten years time the league will be a shadow of itself, in 25 if it survives at all it will be a ancillary league with little presence and interest. There are so many places it is bleeding it is hard to keep track of it all. I can't believe that the owners are foolish enough not to see this coming and seeing as they are not doing anything about it the only conclusion I can fathom is they are all just trying to grab every penny before they bail. The next CBA will likely be looked back on as the killing blow. Either it will cut so hard into the profitability that the owners will cut their losses or be so disadvantageous to the players that it will be the final nail that drives athletes to other sports. Within 5 years, I expect the Maras and Tischs will cut bait and sell the franchise. Maybe 6 and sell to the exiting president.
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Post by GameTime on May 17, 2018 11:10:48 GMT -5
I hear that the league is getting "soft".
Yet week in and week out we see huge hits, crazy plays, extreme athleticism, etc.
The game is still violent and actually more violent then it used to be because of the superior condition of today's athletes.
The peripheral issues like long term care from CTE, maybe a lack of participation on all levels because of the injury risk, and litigation will be the real problems. Making the game "safer" is good but it can only be to a point.
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Post by Zimonami on May 17, 2018 12:21:58 GMT -5
The league is in a tough spot. Politicians are forcing their hand. Half of our elected officials think that it’s their job to go after profitable enterprises and the league knows that it’s just a matter of time before these “officials” pass legislation to control the game just like they try to control everything else. The concussion issue is obviously the driver here. I think the league needs to invest heavily in biotechnology such as stem cell research designed specifically for the reparation of brain tissue. Because even if CTE isn’t what the opposition claims it is, there will always be a stigma that tarnished the perception of the league and all the good it does (and it does a lot more good than bad), goes out the window. If they are able to come up with a biotech solution then they can proclaim themselves as pioneers on the subject and will become saviors for many people outside of football. I’m sure they are all over this having hired scientists and doctors to come up with solutions. We are not that far away technologically speaking from a general perspective. So maybe the sport and the countries favorite pass time of more ham 50 years will be saved after all. Your suggestion isn't as crazy as some might think. Amazing what stem cell research is leading to. Regeneration of specific brain cells is in no way out of the question. Politicians are forcing their (NFL's) hand only because of the media and public attention and adulation that our sports and Arts celebrities garner. CTE is a real, horrible problem, but we pay far less attention to much wider problems, like children born with debilitating diseases and deformities. We see the head on collisions of our football stars, and we don't see the children with cancer and spinal bifida, and... just as a little ditty... 8,000 children are born every year with cerebral palsey. |
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Post by uther99 on May 17, 2018 19:21:55 GMT -5
The players sued the NFL over concussions. Don't blame the NFL, they have to do something to avoid liability going forward.
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Post by Waybackfan on May 17, 2018 19:34:28 GMT -5
This could all be easily solved by making the players always run backwards.
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Post by Waybackfan on May 17, 2018 19:35:28 GMT -5
The league is in a tough spot. Politicians are forcing their hand. Half of our elected officials think that it’s their job to go after profitable enterprises and the league knows that it’s just a matter of time before these “officials” pass legislation to control the game just like they try to control everything else. The concussion issue is obviously the driver here. I think the league needs to invest heavily in biotechnology such as stem cell research designed specifically for the reparation of brain tissue. Because even if CTE isn’t what the opposition claims it is, there will always be a stigma that tarnished the perception of the league and all the good it does (and it does a lot more good than bad), goes out the window. If they are able to come up with a biotech solution then they can proclaim themselves as pioneers on the subject and will become saviors for many people outside of football. I’m sure they are all over this having hired scientists and doctors to come up with solutions. We are not that far away technologically speaking from a general perspective. So maybe the sport and the countries favorite pass time of more ham 50 years will be saved after all. Your suggestion isn't as crazy as some might think. Amazing what stem cell research is leading to. Regeneration of specific brain cells is in no way out of the question. Politicians are forcing their (NFL's) hand only because of the media and public attention and adulation that our sports and Arts celebrities garner. CTE is a real, horrible problem, but we pay far less attention to much wider problems, like children born with debilitating diseases and deformities. We see the head on collisions of our football stars, and we don't see the children with cancer and spinal bifida, and... just as a little ditty... 8,000 children are born every year with cerebral palsey. Head transplants definitely a possibility. |
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Post by Bigjeep on May 17, 2018 19:59:32 GMT -5
The players sued the NFL over concussions. Don't blame the NFL, they have to do something to avoid liability going forward. Who causes the concussions by trying to take a player out of the game, Yes, It's the players themselves! |
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Post by NYxCrunch53 on May 19, 2018 22:30:12 GMT -5
I hear that the league is getting "soft". Yet week in and week out we see huge hits, crazy plays, extreme athleticism, etc. The game is still violent and actually more violent then it used to be because of the superior condition of today's athletes. The peripheral issues like long term care from CTE, maybe a lack of participation on all levels because of the injury risk, and litigation will be the real problems. Making the game "safer" is good but it can only be to a point. "Getting soft" might not be a bad idea. But then the game will look like Rugby if they make equipment changes like leather helmets and leather shoulder pads. |
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Post by nhpgiantsfan on May 20, 2018 17:40:25 GMT -5
I was checking out some of the changes to kickoffs. I think it will be interesting to see it's impact on on-side kicks. www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000933125/article/nfl-to-consider-several-proposed-kickoff-rule-changes1. Players on the kicking team cannot line up more than one yard from the point of the kickoff. The current rule allows players to line up five yards from the restraining line (typically 35-yard line), allowing them to have more of a running start before the kick. 2. The wedge block has been eliminated. Only players who line up in the setup zone (between their own 40 and opponents' 45-yard line) can put together double-team blocks. 3. Until the ball is touched or hits the ground, no player on the receiving team may cross the restraining line (typically its 45) or initiate a block. This forces blockers on the receiving team to run back and block, which greatly decreases the chance of an "attack" block that can result in a high-speed collision. 4. When the ball hits the end zone, it's immediately ruled a touchback. There is no need for a player to down the ball in the end zone to initiate a touchback. Why not play "Touch" football? That would eliminate most Injuries! I read next year ( 2019 ) that it's 99% done that kickoffs will be eliminated completely except for punts. On Side kicks will also be eliminated. I think the union will not like these changes as special team players will be all but eliminated. |
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Post by nhpgiantsfan on May 20, 2018 17:41:55 GMT -5
If I'm reading the OP correctly, does this mean a returner can't take the ball out of the end zone to try a run back? That's craziness. Every kicker reaches the end zone from where they kick off now. Why not just eliminate it all together?
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