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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 19, 2020 9:00:19 GMT -5
The more I see and more I read about this kid he might be worth that #4 pick he is a freak for his size he has it all attitude strength feet like a TE. Thoughts from some who got to see some college ball this past year and specifically him.
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 19, 2020 9:27:22 GMT -5
The more I see and more I read about this kid he might be worth that #4 pick he is a freak for his size he has it all attitude strength feet like a TE. Thoughts from some who got to see some college ball this past year and specifically him. He's become my favorite OT prospect in the little research I've done on the draft. I think he's a plug and play starter at RT, with potential to slide over to LT in a couple years.
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 19, 2020 10:16:27 GMT -5
Warming up to him a little..... Still prefer Thomas or Wirfs...but if the powers that be have him the highest rated tackle and go with him I'll be OK with it
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Post by hadenough on Feb 19, 2020 10:35:19 GMT -5
Yeah...he's pretty solid
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 19, 2020 11:01:27 GMT -5
Warming up to him a little..... Still prefer Thomas or Wirfs...but if the powers that be have him the highest rated tackle and go with him I'll be OK with it Think the combine will determine a lot for him strength speed agility will be big if he blows it up think he might be the pick. He has the tape and word is he can play either side or anywhere for that matter
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 19, 2020 11:36:18 GMT -5
Warming up to him a little..... Still prefer Thomas or Wirfs...but if the powers that be have him the highest rated tackle and go with him I'll be OK with it Think the combine will determine a lot for him strength speed agility will be big if he blows it up think he might be the pick. He has the tape and word is he can play either side or anywhere for that matter I actually think Wirfs will light it up bigtime athletically
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 19, 2020 13:40:05 GMT -5
Think the combine will determine a lot for him strength speed agility will be big if he blows it up think he might be the pick. He has the tape and word is he can play either side or anywhere for that matter I actually think Wirfs will light it up bigtime athletically I will be interested in all of them and the LBs including edge and tweeners. It has been quiet on the Wirfs front. do they think he can slide over after a couple years or is he strictly an RT. I don't want to pay Conklin 17-18 a year if we can get a stud on rookie deal.
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Post by lexington11 on Feb 19, 2020 16:51:09 GMT -5
The more I see and more I read about this kid he might be worth that #4 pick he is a freak for his size he has it all attitude strength feet like a TE. Thoughts from some who got to see some college ball this past year and specifically him. He's become my favorite OT prospect in the little research I've done on the draft. I think he's a plug and play starter at RT, with potential to slide over to LT in a couple years. you don’t draft an OT at 4 unless he is a day one starter at that position. Is this the kid who has never played the left side?
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Post by lexington11 on Feb 19, 2020 16:51:32 GMT -5
He's become my favorite OT prospect in the little research I've done on the draft. I think he's a plug and play starter at RT, with potential to slide over to LT in a couple years. you don’t draft an OT at 4 unless he is a LT and day one starter at that position. Is this the kid who has never played the left side?
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Post by infinite420 on Feb 19, 2020 17:48:59 GMT -5
At RT at 4? Questionable at best.
Willis could be the best RT prospect, but I just dont see the quickness in him to play LT.
Wirfs has that nasty streak you want, but RT may not be his position in the NFL, too risky at 4.
I just dont see how they would rate a guy like Willis higher than Thomas, simply based off the fact that Thomas projects at LT, and if things dont pan out there, slide him to the right, hes nasty enough in the run game to play there.
Id hate to see another David Diehl situation.....RT/G forced to play LT.
Daniel Jones desperately needs blind-side help.
Draft Thomas, move Solder to the right.
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 19, 2020 18:01:10 GMT -5
I like this guy too, but would much prefer that he be taken in a trade-back scenario.
If we stay put at 4, it will be because: (1) we couldn't find a reasonable trade-down deal; or (2) Gettleman falls in love with a player who probably won't be available in a trade-back scenario. My guess is that if scenario (2) occurs, that player will be Simmons.
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 19, 2020 18:29:45 GMT -5
He's become my favorite OT prospect in the little research I've done on the draft. I think he's a plug and play starter at RT, with potential to slide over to LT in a couple years. you don’t draft an OT at 4 unless he is a day one starter at that position. Is this the kid who has never played the left side? He's a day 1 starter. He was a RT at Bama...don't believe he played LT, but may be wrong
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Feb 19, 2020 18:33:56 GMT -5
Wills is in any conversation of OT's in the 1st rd. I can't wait to watch the combine with these OT's. Thomas, Wills, Wirfs, and Becton none of them are going to last very long. IMO out of the first 12 picks 4 QB's and 4 OT's.
I believe Thomas is the only LT though, I guess that would give him the edge ? He could and has played RT as well. As of today I want one of these OT's with our 1st rd pick. Hopefully we can trade back 4-8 picks and still get a OT and pick up another 1st rd and/or a couple 2nd rd picks.
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 19, 2020 18:40:12 GMT -5
Wills is in any conversation of OT's in the 1st rd. I can't wait to watch the combine with these OT's. Thomas, Wills, Wirfs, and Becton none of them are going to last very long. IMO out of the first 12 picks 4 QB's and 4 OT's. I believe Thomas is the only LT though, I guess that would give him the edge ? He could and has played RT as well. As of today I want one of these OT's with our 1st rd pick. Hopefully we can trade back 4-8 picks and still get a OT and pick up another 1st rd and/or a couple 2nd rd picks. Wirfs can play LT (he did a good job this year filling in for Jackson) Read somewhere that he actually prefers the right side but would work to play wherever he is needed..so there is that
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 19, 2020 18:45:31 GMT -5
He's become my favorite OT prospect in the little research I've done on the draft. I think he's a plug and play starter at RT, with potential to slide over to LT in a couple years. you don’t draft an OT at 4 unless he is a day one starter at that position. Is this the kid who has never played the left side? We need a RT this year Solder is going no where this year. He will start at RT and Next year take left it will give them a year to let him work on it.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 19, 2020 18:47:41 GMT -5
you don’t draft an OT at 4 unless he is a day one starter at that position. Is this the kid who has never played the left side? He's a day 1 starter. He was a RT at Bama...don't believe he played LT, but may be wrong No left for wills yet but we need a RT Solder is gonna be here and play LT this year.
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Post by TEM on Feb 19, 2020 18:49:33 GMT -5
I like this guy too, but would much prefer that he be taken in a trade-back scenario. If we stay put at 4, it will be because: (1) we couldn't find a reasonable trade-down deal; or (2) Gettleman falls in love with a player who probably won't be available in a trade-back scenario. My guess is that if scenario (2) occurs, that player will be Simmons. I agree.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 19, 2020 18:50:57 GMT -5
Wills is in any conversation of OT's in the 1st rd. I can't wait to watch the combine with these OT's. Thomas, Wills, Wirfs, and Becton none of them are going to last very long. IMO out of the first 12 picks 4 QB's and 4 OT's. I believe Thomas is the only LT though, I guess that would give him the edge ? He could and has played RT as well. As of today I want one of these OT's with our 1st rd pick. Hopefully we can trade back 4-8 picks and still get a OT and pick up another 1st rd and/or a couple 2nd rd picks. Wirfs can play LT (he did a good job this year filling in for Jackson) Read somewhere that he actually prefers the right side but would work to play wherever he is needed..so there is that I f they draft Wirfs they are still gonna have to draft another tackle next year either way whether Wirfs plays left or right being able to move over next season is a benefit but not necessity.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Feb 19, 2020 19:05:06 GMT -5
I actually think Wirfs will light it up bigtime athletically I will be interested in all of them and the LBs including edge and tweeners. It has been quiet on the Wirfs front. do they think he can slide over after a couple years or is he strictly an RT. I don't want to pay Conklin 17-18 a year if we can get a stud on rookie deal. Blue Dog I couldn't agree more with you about not paying Conklin that type money when there are supposedly these top 4 studs all coming out in the draft. And were in perfect position to probably get the top pick that we want.
I'd rather use that money to try and secure a pass rusher in FA.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 19:47:24 GMT -5
He's become my favorite OT prospect in the little research I've done on the draft. I think he's a plug and play starter at RT, with potential to slide over to LT in a couple years. you don’t draft an OT at 4 unless he is a day one starter at that position. Is this the kid who has never played the left side? Yeah, because Alex Leatherwood (who would be in the running for a top ten pick if he declared) was playing left tackle. We're talking Alabama, and a lot of 5 star recruits down there You know who was drafted as a right tackle...and who played right tackle in college ball? Tyron Smith. He started on the right side in Dallas Wills is a left tackle in the pro's ... but we do have Solder though...hard to cut him with that dead zone You're not much into the offensive line on football teams I noticed, as you declare all these tackles from round 1 to round 4 being around "the same"...u a fantasy guy?
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 19, 2020 21:07:46 GMT -5
you don’t draft an OT at 4 unless he is a day one starter at that position. Is this the kid who has never played the left side? Yeah, because Alex Leatherwood (who would be in the running for a top ten pick if he declared) was playing left tackle. We're talking Alabama, and a lot of 5 star recruits down there You know who was drafted as a right tackle...and who played right tackle in college ball? Tyron Smith. He started on the right side in Dallas Wills is a left tackle in the pro's ... but we do have Solder though...hard to cut him with that dead zone You're not much into the offensive line on football teams I noticed, as you declare all these tackles from round 1 to round 4 being around "the same"...u a fantasy guy? Your fantasy team is only as good as your playmaker's o line as I found out the hard Way Mayfield Odell Hopkins Barkley D Cooks I need a shot of Jack Daniels to take away this pain again
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 20, 2020 8:57:55 GMT -5
I will be interested in all of them and the LBs including edge and tweeners. It has been quiet on the Wirfs front. do they think he can slide over after a couple years or is he strictly an RT. I don't want to pay Conklin 17-18 a year if we can get a stud on rookie deal. Blue Dog I couldn't agree more with you about not paying Conklin that type money when there are supposedly these top 4 studs all coming out in the draft. And were in perfect position to probably get the top pick that we want.
I'd rather use that money to try and secure a pass rusher in FA.
Yea get a guy who has been the lead dog for his team. Then spread the wealth with some good solid football players second their signings.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 20, 2020 9:08:46 GMT -5
you don’t draft an OT at 4 unless he is a day one starter at that position. Is this the kid who has never played the left side? Yeah, because Alex Leatherwood (who would be in the running for a top ten pick if he declared) was playing left tackle. We're talking Alabama, and a lot of 5 star recruits down there You know who was drafted as a right tackle...and who played right tackle in college ball? Tyron Smith. He started on the right side in Dallas Wills is a left tackle in the pro's ... but we do have Solder though...hard to cut him with that dead zone You're not much into the offensive line on football teams I noticed, as you declare all these tackles from round 1 to round 4 being around "the same"...u a fantasy guy? I have been hearing this for years. on the old board they would line up and say the OL was fine it was the skill guys. Gotta own the line of scrimmage to win, whether it's 1930 or 1970 or 2020 it's one thing that will never change Blocking and tackling. This team hasn't blocked for years. Contrary to what the mob thinks these last 2 years have been a pretty significant impovement even tho there is a ways to go. people forget this team couldn't run a play sometimes because the OL was so putrid, hadn't had a 100 yard rusher till Barkely got here and the OL got little better. If they think there is a 10 year tackle that you plug and play there, he is worth every bit of a 4th overall pick.
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