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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Feb 21, 2020 20:42:57 GMT -5
Gettleman better not pick him
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 20:47:30 GMT -5
Care to tell us how you came to this conclusion, or are you just repeating what the voices are telling you?
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Feb 21, 2020 20:53:13 GMT -5
Care to tell us how you came to this conclusion, or are you just repeating what the voices are telling you? From Walterfootball, "that was evident in him struggling against Michigan. However, Wirfs is blessed with a ton of physical talent and upside. Some team sources think he would be a dominant guard". Who does that sound like bud? |
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Feb 21, 2020 20:53:45 GMT -5
Care to tell us how you came to this conclusion, or are you just repeating what the voices are telling you? Again, making fun of mental illness is disgusting. |
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Feb 21, 2020 21:04:18 GMT -5
OT at 4 makes zero sense if we keep Solder and sign Conklin.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 21, 2020 22:47:25 GMT -5
Care to tell us how you came to this conclusion, or are you just repeating what the voices are telling you? From Walterfootball, "that was evident in him struggling against Michigan. However, Wirfs is blessed with a ton of physical talent and upside. Some team sources think he would be a dominant guard". Who does that sound like bud? Not Flowers because he stinks there just not as much as he did at tackle. It sounds like Sherf. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 21, 2020 22:49:19 GMT -5
OT at 4 makes zero sense if we keep Solder and sign Conklin. Why would we pay conklin when they can have stud tackle on a rookie contract for 4 years. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 21, 2020 22:59:37 GMT -5
Hot take
As usual
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Feb 22, 2020 1:35:51 GMT -5
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Post by mj312 on Feb 22, 2020 6:48:21 GMT -5
OT at 4 makes zero sense if we keep Solder and sign Conklin. Why would we pay conklin when they can have stud tackle on a rookie contract for 4 years. Well for starters do you really trust the giants to be able to tell the difference between a stud left tackle and flowers ?? I don’t that’s for damn sure . If they draft a tackle at 4 he better be 100% a sure thing because we will need to score 100 points a game to keep up with other teams . If Conklin is already proven an nfl starter then get him and draft defense . |
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 22, 2020 7:18:26 GMT -5
Why would we pay conklin when they can have stud tackle on a rookie contract for 4 years. Well for starters do you really trust the giants to be able to tell the difference between a stud left tackle and flowers ?? I don’t that’s for damn sure . If they draft a tackle at 4 he better be 100% a sure thing because we will need to score 100 points a game to keep up with other teams . If Conklin is already proven an nfl starter then get him and draft defense . Or better idea Fix as much as the defense as possible in FA(bring back Willams,Golden,extend Tomlinson,sign Byron Jones(which eliminates the need to draft Okudah a year after using all those assets in the secondary)Littleton (so we we don't have to take s high risk boom or bust player like Simmons early)and Fowler...) And draft BPA meets need where the strength of the draft is and fix our needs on offense by building a very young core of players around the most important young piece we have,,Jones,(we.need 2 young tackles,a C and at least one more dynamic reciever to compliment Slaytion because going 2020 with only Slayton,Tate(aging and too expensive)and Shepard (one concussion away from retirement)is ignorant and negligent to the development of Jones |
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 22, 2020 7:21:00 GMT -5
In your fairytale world of unicorns,rainbows and clown music I'm sure it is In the real world where the rest of us exist,it most surely is a very hot take and the rest of us are pointing and laughing at you as usual |
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 22, 2020 7:26:09 GMT -5
OT at 4 makes zero sense if we keep Solder and sign Conklin. Cutting edge stuff right here |
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Post by TEM on Feb 22, 2020 7:41:13 GMT -5
OT at 4 makes zero sense if we keep Solder and sign Conklin. Why would we pay conklin when they can have stud tackle on a rookie contract for 4 years. Conklin is good to run behind, but can't stop the rush with consistency . Why pay for that? As you said we can get a rook that can be a more complete OT for a third of what Conklin will want to get paid. |
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 22, 2020 7:56:00 GMT -5
Why would we pay conklin when they can have stud tackle on a rookie contract for 4 years. Conklin is good to run behind, but can't stop the rush with consistency . Why pay for that? As you said we can get a rook that can be a more complete OT for a third of what Conklin will want to get paid. I think that whether or not we go hard after an OT in free agency will be a good indicator of where we are looking to go in the draft.... |
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Post by Fletch842 on Feb 22, 2020 8:00:11 GMT -5
Conklin is going to get paid top $$. He's the best OT FA. I don't think we want another Solder type player/contract. If we spend big on FA, I think its on one of the pass rushers, especially with the talent at OT in the draft.
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Post by TEM on Feb 22, 2020 8:12:05 GMT -5
Conklin is good to run behind, but can't stop the rush with consistency . Why pay for that? As you said we can get a rook that can be a more complete OT for a third of what Conklin will want to get paid. I think that whether or not we go hard after an OT in free agency will be a good indicator of where we are looking to go in the draft.... You and I have always been on the same page on O-linemen FAs. If he did not have any WTFs . He wouldn't be a FA. |
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 22, 2020 8:13:41 GMT -5
I think that whether or not we go hard after an OT in free agency will be a good indicator of where we are looking to go in the draft.... You and I have always been on the same page on O-linemen FAs. If he did not have any WTFs . He wouldn't be a FA. True. I don’t think that it is a good plan to vastly overpay 2 OT’s |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 22, 2020 9:50:16 GMT -5
Why would we pay conklin when they can have stud tackle on a rookie contract for 4 years. Conklin is good to run behind, but can't stop the rush with consistency . Why pay for that? As you said we can get a rook that can be a more complete OT for a third of what Conklin will want to get paid. Conklin is gonna be up there probably between 15 and 17 mill or more no thanks. This class has some really good tackles. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 22, 2020 10:20:49 GMT -5
Why would we pay conklin when they can have stud tackle on a rookie contract for 4 years. Well for starters do you really trust the giants to be able to tell the difference between a stud left tackle and flowers ?? I don’t that’s for damn sure . If they draft a tackle at 4 he better be 100% a sure thing because we will need to score 100 points a game to keep up with other teams . If Conklin is already proven an nfl starter then get him and draft defense . #1 I completely trust them to make the right choice #2 Conklin is good against the run and had to get help in pass pro more in the top three of all tackles #3 We have the capital to draft the best tackle in this draft and a guy who excels at drafting OLs and Dls drafting several prowlers and all pros the last few years If conklin was a great pass protector I would be all for it but he isn't and his numbers say so he is gonna get elite money like solder did. he has 4 years of ware and tare on him I will take the rookie #1 at 4 or 5 or 6 or 8 if they can trade down. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 22, 2020 10:26:43 GMT -5
You and I have always been on the same page on O-linemen FAs. If he did not have any WTFs . He wouldn't be a FA. True. I don’t think that it is a good plan to vastly overpay 2 OT’s I get we had to with solder but now we can stop the bleeding and actually get him off the books next year. I don't care what it takes to get this foundation done through the draft. I know it's a longer process when your doing every position group but it will be worth it in the end it will be sustainable. These players are going to be coming of age the next couple years the first class will be going into year 3 as the 2nd will next year. let them grow this. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 22, 2020 13:18:31 GMT -5
True. I don’t think that it is a good plan to vastly overpay 2 OT’s I get we had to with solder but now we can stop the bleeding and actually get him off the books next year. I don't care what it takes to get this foundation done through the draft. I know it's a longer process when your doing every position group but it will be worth it in the end it will be sustainable. These players are going to be coming of age the next couple years the first class will be going into year 3 as the 2nd will next year. let them grow this. I absolutely hated that signing but understand why it had to happen. The only bright spot is that at least Soldier brings an element of vet professionalism even if his body isnt cooperating. Watching Conklin vs the Chiefs badly exposed him,like that entire offense in general A "front runner",in that if they have a lead and in control of a game where the 10 to 15 passes they throw ate because they want to,he is great They get behind and have to throw it or a shootout and teams can pin their ears back,he becomes Bobby Hart bad. I actually wonder od he could benefit moving inside as a guard Up until that game I had us signing him in my mock offseasons In the non Giants game thread I specifically quotes aris after one of the Titan's 3 and outs that I'm 100% changing my mind about signing Conklin after that series.. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 22, 2020 13:31:56 GMT -5
I get we had to with solder but now we can stop the bleeding and actually get him off the books next year. I don't care what it takes to get this foundation done through the draft. I know it's a longer process when your doing every position group but it will be worth it in the end it will be sustainable. These players are going to be coming of age the next couple years the first class will be going into year 3 as the 2nd will next year. let them grow this. I absolutely hated that signing but understand why it had to happen. The only bright spot is that at least Soldier brings an element of vet professionalism even if his body isnt cooperating. Watching Conklin vs the Chiefs badly exposed him,like that entire offense in general A "front runner",in that if they have a lead and in control of a game where the 10 to 15 passes they throw ate because they want to,he is great They get behind and have to throw it or a shootout and teams can pin their ears back,he becomes Bobby Hart bad. I actually wonder od he could benefit moving inside as a guard Up until that game I had us signing him in my mock offseasons In the non Giants game thread I specifically quotes aris after one of the Titan's 3 and outs that I'm 100% changing my mind about signing Conklin after that series.. I would sign our guys back Williams and Golden then Fowler and try to get McGovern in here to play center if there is enough left Littleton. Take the best tackle they love either at 4 or with trade down but I would not risk losing the #1 guy If they don't get Littleton Queen is my target if they can get in position to get him. He is shooting up boards don't know how the teams feel about him tho he is small. I would WR 3 because the value will be great most likely. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 16:06:09 GMT -5
Care to tell us how you came to this conclusion, or are you just repeating what the voices are telling you? From Walterfootball, "that was evident in him struggling against Michigan. However, Wirfs is blessed with a ton of physical talent and upside. Some team sources think he would be a dominant guard". Who does that sound like bud? Well, why didn't you say that in the first place? You started a thread with an opinion BUT gave nothing else to say why you came to such a negative point of view. You know, like a normal person would? Still, even your belated explanation falls short of a "Flowers 2.0" rating. But, whatever. It's nothing new for you to take an extreme opinion on any subject. You don't have a single clue how he's going to fair in the NFL. No one does. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 16:12:02 GMT -5
Care to tell us how you came to this conclusion, or are you just repeating what the voices are telling you? Again, making fun of mental illness is disgusting. I know quite a lot on the subject and have some life experience regarding mental health issues in my family. If anyone has a right to "make fun" of mental illness, it's me. |
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Feb 22, 2020 16:25:35 GMT -5
Again, making fun of mental illness is disgusting. I know quite a lot on the subject and have some life experience regarding mental health issues in my family. If anyone has a right to "make fun" of mental illness, it's me. You don't have the right to make fun of me, nor do you know me or my family. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 22, 2020 16:36:45 GMT -5
From Walterfootball, "that was evident in him struggling against Michigan. However, Wirfs is blessed with a ton of physical talent and upside. Some team sources think he would be a dominant guard". Who does that sound like bud? Well, why didn't you say that in the first place? You started a thread with an opinion BUT gave nothing else to say why you came to such a negative point of view. You know, like a normal person would? Still, even your belated explanation falls short of a "Flowers 2.0" rating. But, whatever. It's nothing new for you to take an extreme opinion on any subject. You don't have a single clue how he's going to fair in the NFL. No one does. Walter Football tends to be the Huffington poo of scouting reports I'll take an actual knowledgeable person like Pat Kirwin (who says Wirfs has the chance to be a really good tackle on either side)over that site any day |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 17:15:53 GMT -5
I know quite a lot on the subject and have some life experience regarding mental health issues in my family. If anyone has a right to "make fun" of mental illness, it's me. You don't have the right to make fun of me, nor do you know me or my family. Really? I don't? Yet, here I am doing it. I never claimed to know anyone in your family. My judgement is of you and you alone. My official judgement is you have a screw loose. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 22, 2020 17:23:07 GMT -5
You don't have the right to make fun of me, nor do you know me or my family. Really? I don't? Yet, here I am doing it. I never claimed to know anyone in your family. My judgement is of you and you alone. My official judgement is you have a screw loose. Seems to be the prevailing thought here |
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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Feb 22, 2020 17:26:15 GMT -5
Really? I don't? Yet, here I am doing it. I never claimed to know anyone in your family. My judgement is of you and you alone. My official judgement is you have a screw loose. Seems to be the prevailing thought here Ok Kermit. I wish there was a way to block your ass. |
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