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Post by infinite420 on Feb 25, 2020 11:52:29 GMT -5
We need both.
Tate, Slayton, Shepard, Baker.....all #2s.
Okudah & Jeudy should both be in play @4
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 25, 2020 13:07:49 GMT -5
Sign Byron Jones
Or even Logan Ryan...
Wasting the number 4 pick on a corner after how much draft assets were spent on corner last year is a horrible allocation of draft assets,especially when we can sign one
And having another rookie go through growing pains again this year with a bunch of young guys=disaster.
We take a corner at 4(Or Simmons)
Very good chance we don't fix the line(I would only pay for McGovern for a good vet C to stabilize the line with a solid center,)or improve WR if we take a corner at 4,which means you run the risk of retarding Jones growth)
Getting a vet to stabilize the back end an better coaching will improve the secondary by itself without having to throw a top.pick at it.
I would be less against a WR at 4 but still
I'll take the combo of Thomas and Reagor/Justin Jefferson over Jeudy/Lamb and a much riskier later pick at T
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Post by infinite420 on Feb 25, 2020 13:46:53 GMT -5
Sign Byron Jones Or even Logan Ryan... Wasting the number 4 pick on a corner after how much draft assets were spent on corner last year is a horrible allocation of draft assets,especially when we can sign one And having another rookie go through growing pains again this year with a bunch of young guys=disaster. We take a corner at 4(Or Simmons) Very good chance we don't fix the line(I would only pay for McGovern for a good vet C to stabilize the line with a solid center,)or improve WR if we take a corner at 4,which means you run the risk of retarding Jones growth) Getting a vet to stabilize the back end an better coaching will improve the secondary by itself without having to throw a top.pick at it. I would be less against a WR at 4 but still I'll take the combo of Thomas and Reagor/Justin Jefferson over Jeudy/Lamb and a much riskier later pick at T And if the other 31 teams outbid us? You feel comfortable with Baker against #1 WRs? We might get a great C at 37 or someone like Austin Jackson is there, with a skill player at 4. That might have as much impact as a T at 4 and only adding a #2 WR in the later rounds. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 25, 2020 13:54:09 GMT -5
Sign Byron Jones Or even Logan Ryan... Wasting the number 4 pick on a corner after how much draft assets were spent on corner last year is a horrible allocation of draft assets,especially when we can sign one And having another rookie go through growing pains again this year with a bunch of young guys=disaster. We take a corner at 4(Or Simmons) Very good chance we don't fix the line(I would only pay for McGovern for a good vet C to stabilize the line with a solid center,)or improve WR if we take a corner at 4,which means you run the risk of retarding Jones growth) Getting a vet to stabilize the back end an better coaching will improve the secondary by itself without having to throw a top.pick at it. I would be less against a WR at 4 but still I'll take the combo of Thomas and Reagor/Justin Jefferson over Jeudy/Lamb and a much riskier later pick at T And if the other 31 teams outbid us? You feel comfortable with Baker against #1 WRs? Baker wasn't that bad when he was allowed to press later in the year? The same Baker that shut down Jeudy and top WRs that are putting up numbers in the league right now. Omudah is going to look just as bad as an rookie as Baker did and no guarantee either? Jones isn't the only corner out there,seems like Logan Ryan did a really good job against Marquis Brown in the playoffs,and against Hopkins .. |
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Post by TEM on Feb 25, 2020 14:16:41 GMT -5
And if the other 31 teams outbid us? You feel comfortable with Baker against #1 WRs? Baker wasn't that bad when he was allowed to press later in the year? The same Baker that shut down Jeudy and top WRs that are putting up numbers in the league right now. Omudah is going to look just as bad as an rookie as Baker did and no guarantee either?Jones isn't the only corner out there,seems like Logan Ryan did a really good job against Marquis Brown in the playoffs,and against Hopkins .. Do not tell him that. According to him . He is already an NFL shutdown corner. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 25, 2020 14:40:20 GMT -5
Baker wasn't that bad when he was allowed to press later in the year? The same Baker that shut down Jeudy and top WRs that are putting up numbers in the league right now. Omudah is going to look just as bad as an rookie as Baker did and no guarantee either?Jones isn't the only corner out there,seems like Logan Ryan did a really good job against Marquis Brown in the playoffs,and against Hopkins .. Do not tell him that. According to him . He is already an NFL shutdown corner. If we didn't trade up for Baker and instead stayed put and taken Risner(thus solving RT long term)I'd have Okudah up there with Jeudy/Lamb (less of a need with Risner for OT )for my 3 players I'd love at 4/trade back.. But that didn't happen and we traded up for Baker |
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Post by TEM on Feb 25, 2020 14:51:18 GMT -5
Do not tell him that. According to him . He is already an NFL shutdown corner. If we didn't trade up for Baker and instead stayed put and taken Risner(thus solving RT long term)I'd have Okudah up there with Jeudy/Lamb (less of a need with Risner for OT )for my 3 players I'd love at 4/trade back.. But that didn't happen and we traded up for Baker We moved up to get Baker. Like you said. Baker was a top corner in the last 5-6 games. We fill no hole taking a corner with pick 4. We add substances. That is what Reese and Ross did. It does not fix or O-line, Pass rush. We take a corner . We lose the ability to fill those 3 holes, 2 of which are on the O-line . Plus the 4th a MLB with our first 4 picks. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 25, 2020 15:09:25 GMT -5
If we didn't trade up for Baker and instead stayed put and taken Risner(thus solving RT long term)I'd have Okudah up there with Jeudy/Lamb (less of a need with Risner for OT )for my 3 players I'd love at 4/trade back.. But that didn't happen and we traded up for Baker We moved up to get Baker. Like you said. Baker was a top corner in the last 5-6 games. We fill no hole taking a corner with pick 4. We add substances. That is what Reese and Ross did. It does not fix or O-line, Pass rush. We take a corner . We lose the ability to fill those 3 holes, 2 of which are on the O-line . Plus the 4th a MLB with our first 4 picks. Sign Littleton and MLB is taken off the major need list |
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Post by TEM on Feb 25, 2020 15:23:49 GMT -5
We moved up to get Baker. Like you said. Baker was a top corner in the last 5-6 games. We fill no hole taking a corner with pick 4. We add substances. That is what Reese and Ross did. It does not fix or O-line, Pass rush. We take a corner . We lose the ability to fill those 3 holes, 2 of which are on the O-line . Plus the 4th a MLB with our first 4 picks. Sign Littleton and MLB is taken off the major need list I would not mind that. |
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Post by shocknaweny on Feb 25, 2020 17:10:36 GMT -5
I would not like Okudah at 4.....god I hope the Lions just take that equation right out of Gettlemans hand
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