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Post by ThatGuyRich on Feb 28, 2020 19:04:41 GMT -5
Becton ran the 40 yard in 5.11. YES THATS RIGHT ! 6'7" 364 lbs. He is now my favorite OT this beast can move like this. Saquon must be drooling. Guys we need this guy on our OL. The biggest guy at the combine can run like this, I can't get over it.
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Post by djsbnyg on Feb 28, 2020 19:10:31 GMT -5
40 time is irrelevant for OL.
Travis Frederick ran the slowest 40 at the combine. He's a future Hall of Fame Center.
Becton is not a 1st round prospect on tape.
PFF has Becton as OT5 and #50 on their big board.
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Post by lexington11 on Feb 29, 2020 0:13:53 GMT -5
40 time is irrelevant for OL. Travis Frederick ran the slowest 40 at the combine. He's a future Hall of Fame Center. Becton is not a 1st round prospect on tape. PFF has Becton as OT5 and #50 on their big board. lamo,,becton is a top 10 prospect and brings a level of nastiness in both run and pass game that others do not,,not sure what the hell you are watching. pff,,the same pff that routinely gets laughed at on here? becton is ranked high on everyone else's boards. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Feb 29, 2020 6:47:10 GMT -5
I was more impressed with Wirf's showing yesterday, and he didn't come up lame either.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Feb 29, 2020 11:42:44 GMT -5
I was more impressed with Wirf's showing yesterday, and he didn't come up lame either. Yea, what did Wirfs run a 4.89 at 320 ? This class of OL looks great I believe we had 2 LO at 320 run a 4.8 and 1 365 pound OT run at 5.1. Plus the interior lineman look really good. That Center from LSU Cushenberry would look awful good in Blue playing in N.J.
LSU has 16 players here at the combine. Unbelievable ! Unheard of what a team they had this year.
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Post by mj312 on Feb 29, 2020 14:32:25 GMT -5
Becton ran the 40 yard in 5.11. YES THATS RIGHT ! 6'7" 364 lbs. He is now my favorite OT this beast can move like this. Saquon must be drooling. Guys we need this guy on our OL. The biggest guy at the combine can run like this, I can't get over it.
What do you think ? Not to sound like a jerk but Nate solder is 6’8 320 runs a 5.05 and can’t block anyone . Not saying we don’t need lineman because our Molly’s need all the help they can get but we desperately need the best pass rusher available at 4 .. |
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 29, 2020 14:56:41 GMT -5
Becton ran the 40 yard in 5.11. YES THATS RIGHT ! 6'7" 364 lbs. He is now my favorite OT this beast can move like this. Saquon must be drooling. Guys we need this guy on our OL. The biggest guy at the combine can run like this, I can't get over it.
What do you think ? Not to sound like a jerk but Nate solder is 6’8 320 runs a 5.05 and can’t block anyone . Not saying we don’t need lineman because our Molly’s need all the help they can get but we desperately need the best pass rusher available at 4 .. If Chase Young goes at 2 as expected, what pass rusher do you want to take at 4? |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Feb 29, 2020 15:05:21 GMT -5
Becton ran the 40 yard in 5.11. YES THATS RIGHT ! 6'7" 364 lbs. He is now my favorite OT this beast can move like this. Saquon must be drooling. Guys we need this guy on our OL. The biggest guy at the combine can run like this, I can't get over it.
What do you think ? Not to sound like a jerk but Nate solder is 6’8 320 runs a 5.05 and can’t block anyone . Not saying we don’t need lineman because our Molly’s need all the help they can get but we desperately need the best pass rusher available at 4 .. Can't argue mj, I honestly don't know who I want with our first pick. With the 4th pick he should be a star. Take whoever we have rated higher at a position of need. Just make sure we don't screw up the pick. Flowers and Eli Apple were both top 10 picks. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 29, 2020 15:19:06 GMT -5
Not to sound like a jerk but Nate solder is 6’8 320 runs a 5.05 and can’t block anyone . Not saying we don’t need lineman because our Molly’s need all the help they can get but we desperately need the best pass rusher available at 4 .. If Chase Young goes at 2 as expected, what pass rusher do you want to take at 4? Yeah That would be a catastrophic reach |
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Post by IrishMike on Feb 29, 2020 15:33:53 GMT -5
Not to sound like a jerk but Nate solder is 6’8 320 runs a 5.05 and can’t block anyone . Not saying we don’t need lineman because our Molly’s need all the help they can get but we desperately need the best pass rusher available at 4 .. If Chase Young goes at 2 as expected, what pass rusher do you want to take at 4? Simmons. He would be the best pass rusher on our team.  |
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 29, 2020 17:11:39 GMT -5
If Chase Young goes at 2 as expected, what pass rusher do you want to take at 4? Simmons. He would be the best pass rusher on our team. He's not a pass-rusher per se though ... he is a LB/Safety who can rush the passer on occasion.
Could contribute to the pass rush though ... fair point
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Post by mj312 on Feb 29, 2020 17:39:15 GMT -5
Not to sound like a jerk but Nate solder is 6’8 320 runs a 5.05 and can’t block anyone . Not saying we don’t need lineman because our Molly’s need all the help they can get but we desperately need the best pass rusher available at 4 .. Can't argue mj, I honestly don't know who I want with our first pick. With the 4th pick he should be a star. Take whoever we have rated higher at a position of need. Just make sure we don't screw up the pick. Flowers and Eli Apple were both top 10 picks. Yeah I get it .. taking flowers in the first and then getting solder to replace him has really soured me with taking another lineman with the 4 pick .. wiffing on a 1st round pick really set us back then wasting 75 million on another bust to replace him REALLY REALLY SUCKS ! When u go back through all the missed draft picks we have had it’s really easy to see why we are sooooo bad . Apple was no doubt a baby but I don’t think his talent level was anywhere near as bad as the giants made him look . If you look at all the corners we draft we make them all look terrible .. we have already got baker made out to be a bust but it’s the giants lack of pass rush that ruin these guys .. no matter how good they are they can’t cover guys for 10 seconds and they get hung out to dry .. it’s like playing old school street ball.. you could put your best guy to cover the slow fat guy but when you have to count 10 Mississippi before you can rush the damn fat slow kid always gets open . |
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Post by TheAussieGiant on Feb 29, 2020 17:45:30 GMT -5
I hope that we trade down if we take an OL. Seems like all 4 guys up the top will be quality starters.
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Post by mj312 on Feb 29, 2020 19:19:01 GMT -5
Not to sound like a jerk but Nate solder is 6’8 320 runs a 5.05 and can’t block anyone . Not saying we don’t need lineman because our Molly’s need all the help they can get but we desperately need the best pass rusher available at 4 .. If Chase Young goes at 2 as expected, what pass rusher do you want to take at 4? I want them to take Simmons .. he’s a freak athlete that is big and can run faster then most running backs with a 4.3 40... . He can rush the passer as a linebacker as well as cover the more athletic tight ends .. I actually think he’s a better choice for the giants needs then young but I certainly wouldn’t be upset if we took him . If the giants took Simmons , he’s immediately the most versatile player they have on defense . |
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Post by IrishMike on Feb 29, 2020 20:01:50 GMT -5
Simmons. He would be the best pass rusher on our team. He's not a pass-rusher per se though ... he is a LB/Safety who can rush the passer on occasion.
Could contribute to the pass rush though ... fair point
Yeah very true. Dereck Brown is my other choice. I know he isn't a real pass rusher either though. Unfortunately Young is the only true pass rusher anyone would target in the top 5. I do think Simmons or Brown or Okudah (in a different way) could contribute though. Man this draft really seems deep in the positions we are weakest in. |
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Post by lexington11 on Feb 29, 2020 20:33:36 GMT -5
He's not a pass-rusher per se though ... he is a LB/Safety who can rush the passer on occasion.
Could contribute to the pass rush though ... fair point
Yeah very true. Dereck Brown is my other choice. I know he isn't a real pass rusher either though. Unfortunately Young is the only true pass rusher anyone would target in the top 5. I do think Simmons or Brown or Okudah (in a different way) could contribute though. Man this draft really seems deep in the positions we are weakest in. this draft is stacked and if they play it right they should be back on track. OT, wr, rb, lb can all be had in this draft. |
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 1, 2020 10:30:32 GMT -5
Yeah very true. Dereck Brown is my other choice. I know he isn't a real pass rusher either though. Unfortunately Young is the only true pass rusher anyone would target in the top 5. I do think Simmons or Brown or Okudah (in a different way) could contribute though. Man this draft really seems deep in the positions we are weakest in. this draft is stacked and if they play it right they should be back on track. OT, wr, rb, lb can all be had in this draft. Honestly this is the top draft I have ever seen as far as lining up with our needs. I have faith in Dave and Judge to get this right. Can't wait to see exactly what it looks like because there are a million different paths we can take. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Mar 5, 2020 11:28:38 GMT -5
Trade back and get them Both...I would trade back for wirfs or Wills and then pick up becton with the next pick that we acquire
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 5, 2020 11:38:51 GMT -5
Trade back and get them Both...I would trade back for wirfs or Wills and then pick up becton with the next pick that we acquire None of the fab 4 last past pick 12 unfortunately That indeed would be sick |
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 5, 2020 11:45:17 GMT -5
Trade back and get them Both...I would trade back for wirfs or Wills and then pick up becton with the next pick that we acquire None of the fab 4 last past pick 12 unfortunately That indeed would be sick I agree, or at least not far past. I'll be shocked out of my boots if any of the 4 make it to 20. |
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Post by jimmieray on Mar 5, 2020 12:08:39 GMT -5
None of the fab 4 last past pick 12 unfortunately That indeed would be sick I agree, or at least not far past. I'll be shocked out of my boots if any of the 4 make it to 20. At least there's very little chance that any of them wind up in our team's division. It would especially hurtful if that happened, and we didn't secure which one turns out to be the best of that group. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 5, 2020 12:36:01 GMT -5
I agree, or at least not far past. I'll be shocked out of my boots if any of the 4 make it to 20. At least there's very little chance that any of them wind up in our team's division. It would especially hurtful if that happened, and we didn't secure which one turns out to be the best of that group. And we have to face Young in division twice a year at least the next 5 years.. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 5, 2020 12:50:39 GMT -5
At least there's very little chance that any of them wind up in our team's division. It would especially hurtful if that happened, and we didn't secure which one turns out to be the best of that group. And we have to face Young in division twice a year at least the next 5 years.. Here's to hoping that Danny boy pulls a Danny boy on draft day!!!  |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 5, 2020 13:51:29 GMT -5
Trade back and get them Both...I would trade back for wirfs or Wills and then pick up becton with the next pick that we acquire gee, you are talking 2 picks in the 1st rd. That's Miami, Jax, and Las Vegas (boy is that going to take some getting use to) but all these teams 2nd pick in the 1st rd will be too late to get one of these 4 OT's. I don't even know if any of them will be there at #12 when Las Vegas gets their 1st pick.
I would think the Giants and Jets at #11 definitely. If the Skins drop back with Miami or L.A. I would assume Young is gone they take a OT. Jax could go Becton at #9 to run like the Titans type offense. If Carolina keeps Cam they go OT to keep Cam upright. Just my opinion.
We could use the 2nd first rd pick if anyone wants to give both their 1st rd picks we would need to trade back up and lose at least our 2nd rd pick. In this draft being so deep and talented I wouldn't give up a 2nd first rd pick.
This draft is really going to be exciting. So much talent, so many options.
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