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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 29, 2020 12:17:51 GMT -5
Option one is we get the unicorn defensive stud fall in our lap ,but we are forced to go BPA at 37 because a lot of the tackles were cleaned out and much better vale at WR than T ..then get a.good prospect that might develop at 3
Option 2
We trade back with San Diego and get their 2nd and 3rd
Get one of the fab 4 OTs
Mims again is great value at 37
Get a 2nd tier edge rusher with San Diego's 2and
Get a developmental T that isnt as dire to be a Stud with San Diego's 3rd round pick,thus I double dipped at OT
Get an nice modern new age ILB with our comp pick
Oh and I signed McGovern so we don't need a C either way
What say you
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Post by TEM on Feb 29, 2020 12:46:20 GMT -5
San Diego:
Received 2 top 12 first round picks . A third round pick and a 5th round pick In the Eli trade.
Dropping down 2 spots and getting a 2nd and 3rd seem to be letting them off the hook. They made us pay for a QB . They should have no qualms with us doing the same to them. I just hope Dave is not a generous as some on the site are .
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Post by Fletch842 on Feb 29, 2020 13:00:34 GMT -5
If Young falls to us, we should run that card up to the podium as if The Flash were doing it for us. He goes a long way towards addressing our defensive woes, and I know that is a lot to put on the shoulders of a rookie.
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 29, 2020 13:07:43 GMT -5
San Diego: Received 2 top 12 first round picks . A third round pick and a 5th round pick In the Eli trade. Dropping down 2 spots and getting a 2nd and 3rd seem to be letting them off the hook. They made us pay for a QB . They should have no qualms with us doing the same to them. I just hope Dave is not a generous as some on the site are . I'm actually not going to be greedy in this case as much as I want to be.. Just their 2nd and 3rd is enough where we can strategically not have to reach and let the draft fall to us and get great players at needs because we probably are in the sweet spots for where BPA and need is. Technically we moved up from 4 to 1 which is a much bigger jump than from 6 to 4 (And people forget San Diego also wanted Uminyora some actually got off lighter) |
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Post by TEM on Feb 29, 2020 13:21:27 GMT -5
San Diego: Received 2 top 12 first round picks . A third round pick and a 5th round pick In the Eli trade. Dropping down 2 spots and getting a 2nd and 3rd seem to be letting them off the hook. They made us pay for a QB . They should have no qualms with us doing the same to them. I just hope Dave is not a generous as some on the site are . I'm actually not going to be greedy in this case as much as I want to be.. Just their 2nd and 3rd is enough where we can strategically not have to reach and let the draft fall to us and get great players at needs because we probably are in the sweet spots for where BPA and need is. Technically we moved up from 4 to 1 which is a much bigger jump than from 6 to 4 (And people forget San Diego also wanted Uminyora some actually got off lighter) I stick by what I say . They want a QB "is enough" Just doesn't cut it. Make them pay. They had no problem making the Giants FO pony up picks. We did not get off light . Neither should they if the want the franchise QB. |
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Post by IrishMike on Feb 29, 2020 15:41:15 GMT -5
The second Detroit is done picking, if Young is still on the board I'd be on the stage screaming as they hand their draft pick his jersey lol.
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Post by IrishMike on Feb 29, 2020 15:42:51 GMT -5
I stick by what I say . They want a QB "is enough" Just doesn't cut it. Make them pay. They had no problem making the Giants FO pony up picks. We did not get off light . Neither should they if the want the franchise QB. We all agree we should get as much as we can, the problem is how much can we actually get. I still prefer dropping back to 5 and getting two extra 2nd round picks. Just my opinion. |
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Post by snyder55 on Feb 29, 2020 16:12:44 GMT -5
The second Detroit is done picking, if Young is still on the board I'd be on the stage screaming as they hand their draft pick his jersey lol. I'd been on that same stage with you before Young hugged the commissioner...yuck.. |
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Post by TEM on Feb 29, 2020 17:35:52 GMT -5
I stick by what I say . They want a QB "is enough" Just doesn't cut it. Make them pay. They had no problem making the Giants FO pony up picks. We did not get off light . Neither should they if the want the franchise QB. We all agree we should get as much as we can, the problem is how much can we actually get. I still prefer dropping back to 5 and getting two extra 2nd round picks. Just my opinion. I am just floating mine out there also. At the end of the day the FO is going to do what the feel is best for the team. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 29, 2020 18:35:52 GMT -5
Personally I don't think there is a wrong answer between both scenarios
Mainly because if Young doesn't fall to us the 2nd scenario is highly likely
Both make the team much better but in different ways
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Post by TEM on Feb 29, 2020 19:04:05 GMT -5
There is the plausible scenario that Young is there and he is not the BPA on the Giants board at the time of the pick. Josh Allen wasn't . I would want him if he was there . I would not be surprised if we went OT instead of a pass rusher.
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Post by IrishMike on Feb 29, 2020 19:47:46 GMT -5
The second Detroit is done picking, if Young is still on the board I'd be on the stage screaming as they hand their draft pick his jersey lol. I'd been on that same stage with you before Young hugged the commissioner...yuck.. Oh I meant as Detroit is handing some bust their jersey I'd be announcing our pick lol. |
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Post by snyder55 on Mar 1, 2020 14:36:32 GMT -5
I'd be on that same stage with you before Young hugged the commissioner...yuck.. Oh I meant as Detroit is handing some bust their jersey I'd be announcing our pick lol. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 1, 2020 16:20:05 GMT -5
There is the plausible scenario that Young is there and he is not the BPA on the Giants board at the time of the pick. Josh Allen wasn't . I would want him if he was there . I would not be surprised if we went OT instead of a pass rusher. I think he actually takes Young this time ..... Just a gut feeling not based on anything else.. |
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Post by TEM on Mar 1, 2020 16:28:42 GMT -5
There is the plausible scenario that Young is there and he is not the BPA on the Giants board at the time of the pick. Josh Allen wasn't . I would want him if he was there . I would not be surprised if we went OT instead of a pass rusher. I think he actually takes Young this time ..... Just a gut feeling not based on anything else.. I am not dismissing anything that may or may not happen when we pick. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 18:04:30 GMT -5
Niang IMHO will be an early 2...could slip late 1 as well.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 6, 2020 20:36:08 GMT -5
If Young is there why wouldn't we take the best player in the draft ? But if he's not I would love to trade back with the Chargers. I'm assuming Miami works a deal with Detroit ahead of us. Now whatever Detroit gets from Miami we could ask for the exact same thing.
But the deal already has a precedent if you will. The Jets in 2018 gave up three 2nd rd picks to Indy to move from the 6th spot to the 3rd spot and draft Darnell. Now I would start by asking for 2 first rds and 2 2nd rds to move back 1 or 2 spots.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Mar 6, 2020 20:44:47 GMT -5
The second Detroit is done picking, if Young is still on the board I'd be on the stage screaming as they hand their draft pick his jersey lol. Sounds very similar to last year about Josh Allen... I know I know.... QB |
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 6, 2020 20:47:03 GMT -5
The second Detroit is done picking, if Young is still on the board I'd be on the stage screaming as they hand their draft pick his jersey lol. Sounds very similar to last year about Josh Allen... I know I know.... QB I didn't say that last year because I knew we would take Jones. I always say it was a bit sad to see Josh Allen sitting there knowing we can't have both.
Only thing someone should pass on Young for is a QB and we already have ours. I hope the Reskins really like Tua.
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Post by mikethenygfan on Mar 7, 2020 11:54:28 GMT -5
There is the plausible scenario that Young is there and he is not the BPA on the Giants board at the time of the pick. Josh Allen wasn't . I would want him if he was there . I would not be surprised if we went OT instead of a pass rusher. idk gettleman has come out and said how bad it hurt to pass on josh allen last year, i think he runs to the podium for young. |
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Post by TEM on Mar 7, 2020 12:01:10 GMT -5
There is the plausible scenario that Young is there and he is not the BPA on the Giants board at the time of the pick. Josh Allen wasn't . I would want him if he was there . I would not be surprised if we went OT instead of a pass rusher. idk gettleman has come out and said how bad it hurt to pass on josh allen last year, i think he runs to the podium for young. All I am saying is. It is not out of the realm of possibility for us to take an OT no matter who is available. I would not mind if we took Young. |
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Mar 7, 2020 20:15:25 GMT -5
There is the plausible scenario that Young is there and he is not the BPA on the Giants board at the time of the pick. Josh Allen wasn't . I would want him if he was there . I would not be surprised if we went OT instead of a pass rusher. Wouldn’t be the first time the giants surprised people. If he is there I want Young if not a tackle trade down or not. However I’ve been wrong before |
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 7, 2020 20:28:47 GMT -5
There is the plausible scenario that Young is there and he is not the BPA on the Giants board at the time of the pick. Josh Allen wasn't . I would want him if he was there . I would not be surprised if we went OT instead of a pass rusher. There is no plausible scenario that we don’t take Young if he is there at 4 |
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Post by lexington11 on Mar 8, 2020 3:35:38 GMT -5
Niang won’t be there in the 3rd, no chance. He’s just under the big 4. Ben bartch is a name to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 7:08:46 GMT -5
Sounds very similar to last year about Josh Allen... I know I know.... QB I didn't say that last year because I knew we would take Jones. I always say it was a bit sad to see Josh Allen sitting there knowing we can't have both.
Only thing someone should pass on Young for is a QB and we already have ours. I hope the Reskins really like Tua.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 7:12:22 GMT -5
There is the plausible scenario that Young is there and he is not the BPA on the Giants board at the time of the pick. Josh Allen wasn't . I would want him if he was there . I would not be surprised if we went OT instead of a pass rusher. There is no plausible scenario that we don’t take Young if he is there at 4 Yeah, if it goes as I am expecting it to, it will be the Lions taking Young Once Tua goes Redskins, Lions take Young...I don't see teams going to be that smitten over Herbert or Love to go trade up nuts on them, so trade backs might not be there. Giants will be taking a OT, or IMHO, SHOULD be a taking an OT then at 4... |
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 8, 2020 8:09:56 GMT -5
There is no plausible scenario that we don’t take Young if he is there at 4 Once Tua goes Redskins, Lions take Young...I don't see teams going to be that smitten over Herbert or Love to go trade up nuts on them, so trade backs might not be there. Good. I can't wait to bash the shit out of DG for not making a trade that was never offered to him. Seriously if he can't get 8 extra picks from Miami he's a complete failure. |
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Post by TEM on Mar 8, 2020 8:19:47 GMT -5
There is the plausible scenario that Young is there and he is not the BPA on the Giants board at the time of the pick. Josh Allen wasn't . I would want him if he was there . I would not be surprised if we went OT instead of a pass rusher. There is no plausible scenario that we don’t take Young if he is there at 4 I don't see it that way. I have already explained. Why The GM would want to invest in keeping his 2 former first round Draft picks ( his signature picks) in a position to thrive. There is only one scenario that indulges that endeavor . O-line. If my job was on the line and this may be the last chance for my legacy to be written. I put the QB in the best position possible. |
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Post by TEM on Mar 8, 2020 8:25:56 GMT -5
There is the plausible scenario that Young is there and he is not the BPA on the Giants board at the time of the pick. Josh Allen wasn't . I would want him if he was there . I would not be surprised if we went OT instead of a pass rusher. Wouldn’t be the first time the giants surprised people. If he is there I want Young if not a tackle trade down or not. However I’ve been wrong before If there is one thing I am consistent in; it is being wrong in the Draft. The only pick I ever got right was Ximines. I am looking at it from Dave's perspective. If I am him I want to protect the QB and keep the Defense from hitting the RB behind the line. Only O-line fixes those problems together. |
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Mar 8, 2020 21:11:44 GMT -5
Wouldn’t be the first time the giants surprised people. If he is there I want Young if not a tackle trade down or not. However I’ve been wrong before If there is one thing I am consistent in; it is being wrong in the Draft. The only pick I ever got right was Ximines. I am looking at it from Dave's perspective. If I am him I want to protect the QB and keep the Defense from hitting the RB behind the line. Only O-line fixes those problems together. That’s one more draft pick you’ve been right on then me  . I agree with your point about the line bro I just think Young is too good to pass up. |
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. I agree with your point about the line bro I just think Young is too good to pass up.