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Post by EliDaGoat713 on Mar 1, 2020 4:04:32 GMT -5
The guy was the consensus top tackle for months, now all the mocks have him dropping. What gives?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 7:37:00 GMT -5
Logic dictates that when certain players rise, others slide down. This will fluctuate until late April as everyone engages in group-think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 7:57:30 GMT -5
First pre-draft? Mocks are not an exact science. Best not to read anything into them.
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Post by TEM on Mar 1, 2020 8:48:30 GMT -5
Why does it matter . The film on him did not change.
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 1, 2020 9:49:16 GMT -5
As recently as yesterday I read an article that says Thomas has the best run block - pass pro combo of all OT’s. Some run block better - some pass block better but none do both at a higher level than Thomas. His film is solid. Film doesn’t drop off.
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 1, 2020 10:20:27 GMT -5
Shiny new object syndrome
That meme you see on social media
Pretty girl walking to the left..
Dude looking back at her
Girlfriend holding his hand pissed
Pretty girl=,Becton,Wills,Wirfs
Dude=bedroom scouts
Dude's upsed girlfriend =,Thomas
Happens every year
A lot of teams need OT as usual in the top 15
If Thomas falls out of the top 15 there are a lot of GMs thag passed on him that need to answer questions
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Post by bringsimmsback on Mar 1, 2020 11:59:30 GMT -5
Shiny new object syndrome That meme you see on social media Pretty girl walking to the left.. Dude looking back at her Girlfriend holding his hand pissed Pretty girl=,Becton,Wills,Wirfs Dude=bedroom scouts Dude's upsed girlfriend =,Thomas Happens every year A lot of teams need OT as usual in the top 15 If Thomas falls out of the top 15 there are a lot of GMs thag passed on him that need to answer questions I don't think there is any way he falls past the top 15. These top 4 were all over the place as far as ranking even before the combine and all 4 of them did well with Wirfs just being ridiculous. Some had Wirfs first already so I think, for most of the pros, the combine is just going to be a tool of confirming what the tape suggested in the first place or being a reason to reassess/fine-tune analysis. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 1, 2020 12:36:45 GMT -5
Shiny new object syndrome That meme you see on social media Pretty girl walking to the left.. Dude looking back at her Girlfriend holding his hand pissed Pretty girl=,Becton,Wills,Wirfs Dude=bedroom scouts Dude's upsed girlfriend =,Thomas Happens every year A lot of teams need OT as usual in the top 15 If Thomas falls out of the top 15 there are a lot of GMs thag passed on him that need to answer questions I don't think there is any way he falls past the top 15. These top 4 were all over the place as far as ranking even before the combine and all 4 of them did well with Wirfs just being ridiculous. Some had Wirfs first already so I think, for most of the pros, the combine is just going to be a tool of confirming what the tape suggested in the first place or being a reason to reassess/fine-tune analysis. I'm one of the few that had Wirfs up there with Thomas as 1a for a while...(watching him litteraly run stride for stride with Noah Fants on a 70 plus yard TE screen made my jaw drop)then reading up on his wrestling background Plus Iowa (already well coached ) You can make a list of reasons why any of the Fab 4 could be the guy we even stay put and take at 4(the tweet of Becton rag dolling that Fla state linebacker,I can't stop watching that ) I know Gettleman has never taken a lineman in the 1st and has a long history of finding good ones rounds 2-5. Gettleman also has never had the opportunity to take anyone of this caliber either. If he practices what he preaches and is all about the hog Mollies and dominating the line of scrimmage...he cant pass on this group |
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Post by lt56 on Mar 1, 2020 14:14:57 GMT -5
All are Good but neither looks like that next GREAT Franchise Tackle and if you're taking a Tackle at #4 he better be Orlando Pace, Walter Jones, Jonathan Ogdan, Joe Thomas, Tyron Smith and not Greg Robinson or Robert Gallery
Hopefully Line gets addressed by Free Agency here in a few weeks and long before the Draft
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Post by bringsimmsback on Mar 1, 2020 14:49:00 GMT -5
All are Good but neither looks like that next GREAT Franchise Tackle and if you're taking a Tackle at #4 he better be Orlando Pace, Walter Jones, Jonathan Ogdan, Joe Thomas, Tyron Smith and not Greg Robinson or Robert Gallery Hopefully Line gets addressed by Free Agency here in a few weeks and long before the Draft Other than Young, do any of these top prospects get talked about as the next great anything? For me, unless the Giants have one of these prospects significantly higher than the others, they should trade back up to 4 picks. If they can't trade back and all the prospects are closely rated, they should take the position of greatest value at a position of need - OT. Okudah is the only one I would consider taking over an OT if we can't trade back but, given the options at corner in FA are better/cheaper than our options at OT, I'd prefer OT over Okudah if we have the choice. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2020 15:03:54 GMT -5
I read the title of this thread and thought the poor guy got lost hiking or something? No Red, it is the fact Thomas has just went, post combine, from around 6 on a big board to 12. In a few weeks, after the tape is again watched... he will probably climb back out of that 12 canyon back to the ledge at 9...and then be able to reach the branch at 6 with his amazingly long arms...trying to establish his footwork to get to the 4 spot. |
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Post by lexington11 on Mar 1, 2020 15:15:53 GMT -5
He’s a steady player. His athleticism isn’t elite, and he does have issues with the vertical passing game. Seems to be on the ground too much. Becton is the king of the hill now.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Mar 1, 2020 15:50:42 GMT -5
I don't trust mocks...I would rather Wills over him after the combine.
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 1, 2020 16:18:25 GMT -5
All are Good but neither looks like that next GREAT Franchise Tackle and if you're taking a Tackle at #4 he better be Orlando Pace, Walter Jones, Jonathan Ogdan, Joe Thomas, Tyron Smith and not Greg Robinson or Robert Gallery Hopefully Line gets addressed by Free Agency here in a few weeks and long before the Draft Here is the deal that people are saying I doubt any of these guys bust as bad as those guys(or even flowers,Jokiel,who had the same issues Flowers had with being a clutz with footwork),as Gallery had short arms and Robinson played OT for only like 1 year....all of these guys are sound enough to be at least above average.... Above average OK People are cringing How can you take a OT at 4 to 6 that doesn't live up to the "hype"(perennial pro bowler,all pro)and is only "above average Would anyone throw Fisher away? Didnt live up to the hype of a 1st overall pick..but above average Helped the Chiefs win a super bowl and been an anchor for one of the best offenses in history Lane Johnson? Never moved over to LT,very few if any pro bowls.... Helped the Eagles win a super bowl and is an anchor Mathews from Atlanta? Above average,helps anchor a perennial top offense in the league.... So if the floor of any of these guys is above average...above average these days means a 10 year solid starter you don't have to worry about that helps your entire offense be really good in all areas... |
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