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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 10:49:45 GMT -5
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 6, 2020 14:21:18 GMT -5
Well they have 2 great DL in DT Brown who should be a top 10 pick. And the DE I think his name is Goodman ( I may be wrong) both these players wear single numbers on their jerseys. If we could get a 2nd first rd pick maybe we have a shot at the DE.
But I'm sure were there to watch other players that the brain trust likes. Hell I'd visit every team in the SEC on their pro day.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Mar 6, 2020 19:56:27 GMT -5
Same way the Skins are meeting with QB's....Due Diligence in case these guys fall and we trade up for them.....You gotta know who you're willing to trade up for. They may say screw Leonard Williams after this.
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 6, 2020 22:16:54 GMT -5
Well they have 2 great DL in DT Brown who should be a top 10 pick. And the DE I think his name is Goodman ( I may be wrong) both these players wear single numbers on their jerseys. If we could get a 2nd first rd pick maybe we have a shot at the DE. But I'm sure were there to watch other players that the brain trust likes. Hell I'd visit every team in the SEC on their pro day. 2 good O linemen,Prince and Driscoll |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2020 22:40:14 GMT -5
Well they have 2 great DL in DT Brown who should be a top 10 pick. And the DE I think his name is Goodman ( I may be wrong) both these players wear single numbers on their jerseys. If we could get a 2nd first rd pick maybe we have a shot at the DE. But I'm sure were there to watch other players that the brain trust likes. Hell I'd visit every team in the SEC on their pro day. 2 good O linemen,Prince and Driscoll LOL!...I must be OT obsessed because that is EXACTLY what I was thinking..... |
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 7, 2020 6:22:49 GMT -5
2 good O linemen,Prince and Driscoll LOL!...I must be OT obsessed because that is EXACTLY what I was thinking..... I think the poor play of our O Line the last 8ish years has made most of us obsessed. |
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 7, 2020 6:25:47 GMT -5
If we draft Brown after the whole Leonard Williams thing, DG DESERVES to be fired
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Post by bavarobeast on Mar 7, 2020 9:38:49 GMT -5
Auburn has a number of very good players. Giants evaluators attending is a good thing. Marlon D ain’t too shabby. Prince is an intriguing OL. And of course there is Brown who should be All Pro - but we have bigger needs at #4
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 7, 2020 9:40:24 GMT -5
If we draft Brown after the whole Leonard Williams thing, DG DESERVES to be fired Im on that bandwagon myself Think about it We let Williams walk and draft Brown We in effect used a 2020 1st and 3rd and a 2021 5tg for Brown. That doesn't even account for the chain reaction this causes by basicly hamster wheeling the same position doing this in that major solutions for dire needs (OT and WR(though not a top 4 selection type pick but a premium player could have filled a need)..even Okudah could have been better (still a waste at 4)that doesnt get adressed... Chain reaction to 2and round,OT has been picked completely clean for possible day one starters by end of 1st round panic run.... Your 2nd tier Edge rushers could be picked clean... So you dont get a tackle 2and round and now you are in the Hope's and prayers section of the draft for a dire need that should have been adressed the previous day And now you have other needs on top of that that still could be addressed via BPA the rest of the way that while still can be probably now causes one not to be adressed because you prioritize an OT in a mild reach ....meaning You get a marginal tackle and miss another position entirely.... Doing this sets the rebuild back 2 years ...... |
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 7, 2020 9:41:11 GMT -5
Auburn has a number of very good players. Giants evaluators attending is a good thing. Marlon D ain’t too shabby. Prince is an intriguing OL. And of course there is Brown who should be All Pro - but we have bigger needs at #4 Don't they have a decent edge rusher |
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 7, 2020 16:19:19 GMT -5
If we draft Brown after the whole Leonard Williams thing, DG DESERVES to be fired Im on that bandwagon myself Think about it We let Williams walk and draft Brown We in effect used a 2020 1st and 3rd and a 2021 5tg for Brown. That doesn't even account for the chain reaction this causes by basicly hamster wheeling the same position doing this in that major solutions for dire needs (OT and WR(though not a top 4 selection type pick but a premium player could have filled a need)..even Okudah could have been better (still a waste at 4)that doesnt get adressed... Chain reaction to 2and round,OT has been picked completely clean for possible day one starters by end of 1st round panic run.... Your 2nd tier Edge rushers could be picked clean... So you dont get a tackle 2and round and now you are in the Hope's and prayers section of the draft for a dire need that should have been adressed the previous day And now you have other needs on top of that that still could be addressed via BPA the rest of the way that while still can be probably now causes one not to be adressed because you prioritize an OT in a mild reach ....meaning You get a marginal tackle and miss another position entirely.... Doing this sets the rebuild back 2 years ...... If we dont go OT or EDGE in the 1st it will be a ruined draft. We gotta pick 1 because there will be no top tier rushers or OTs come round 2. IDEALLY we will somehow aquire Ngakoue/Dupree/Fowler and then it will free us up to pick an OT in the 1st and possibly a developmental rusher later on like Alton Robinson or Tipa Galea'a |
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 8, 2020 18:49:28 GMT -5
If we dont go OT or EDGE in the 1st it will be a ruined draft. Shouldn't we see how the draft plays out before we declare it a ruined draft? Just saying. |
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 8, 2020 18:52:04 GMT -5
Wait the Giants and the Pats are their? Either A) homerism at it's finest or B) we are the smartest team ever because we are doing something the Pats are doing. Those are the only acceptable responses lol.
Auburn has tons of talent on their team. When picking at 4 you better check out all the top prospects. If we think Brown is the next Aaron Donald does anyone really think we should pass on him? There are plenty of other players I'm sure we are looking at as well.
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 8, 2020 20:37:12 GMT -5
If we dont go OT or EDGE in the 1st it will be a ruined draft. Shouldn't we see how the draft plays out before we declare it a ruined draft? Just saying. The reason I said that is because the drop off from 1at round OTs and Edge guys to the 2nd round is immense |
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 8, 2020 21:02:23 GMT -5
The reason I said that is because the drop off from 1at round OTs and Edge guys to the 2nd round is immense I hear ya. Not a particularly strong edge class at all. For the OTs it all depends who falls to round 2. I just think drafts are way to variable to say we fail simply because 1 thing didn't happen. Only thing worse than grading a draft the second it is over is grading a draft before it even happens. I just want us to find starters, I don't care where they come from. We got three starters in round 1 last year, we also go three starters from rounds 4/5 last year. |
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Mar 9, 2020 14:06:24 GMT -5
LOL!...I must be OT obsessed because that is EXACTLY what I was thinking..... I think the poor play of our O Line the last 8ish years has made most of us obsessed. No no no no. It was always Eli’s fault damnit.....  |
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 10, 2020 15:06:52 GMT -5
The reason I said that is because the drop off from 1at round OTs and Edge guys to the 2nd round is immense I hear ya. Not a particularly strong edge class at all. For the OTs it all depends who falls to round 2. I just think drafts are way to variable to say we fail simply because 1 thing didn't happen. Only thing worse than grading a draft the second it is over is grading a draft before it even happens. I just want us to find starters, I don't care where they come from. We got three starters in round 1 last year, we also go three starters from rounds 4/5 last year. Looking at this draft class, do you see many 1st season starters at OT or Edge outside the 1st round?? I WANT to but I just dont see it, lots of guys who COULD contribute in a few years but not many outside the 1st who will contribute in their 1st season, at those positions |
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 10, 2020 15:20:50 GMT -5
Looking at this draft class, do you see many 1st season starters at OT or Edge outside the 1st round?? I WANT to but I just dont see it, lots of guys who COULD contribute in a few years but not many outside the 1st who will contribute in their 1st season, at those positions Me personally, not really depending who falls. There is a chance for a 1st season starting OT to fall to us at 2 but we should not bet on it. That is also why I would sign a free agent OT, even if it isn't a high dollar one, to either start for a year while we groom someone or be a back up just in case we draft one. Another option is to sign a high dollar free agent and if we draft a starting OT then we can cut Solder and save some money (although the dead money is high we still net $5m this year).
Edge is a different story. I think there are some edge guys that can contribute, like X did last year, but no one likely outside of round 1 as full time starter day 1.
This all of course is my opinion and I admit to not being some super genius. We might be able to find a starter in the draft.
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 10, 2020 17:30:33 GMT -5
Looking at this draft class, do you see many 1st season starters at OT or Edge outside the 1st round?? I WANT to but I just dont see it, lots of guys who COULD contribute in a few years but not many outside the 1st who will contribute in their 1st season, at those positions Me personally, not really depending who falls. There is a chance for a 1st season starting OT to fall to us at 2 but we should not bet on it. That is also why I would sign a free agent OT, even if it isn't a high dollar one, to either start for a year while we groom someone or be a back up just in case we draft one. Another option is to sign a high dollar free agent and if we draft a starting OT then we can cut Solder and save some money (although the dead money is high we still net $5m this year).
Edge is a different story. I think there are some edge guys that can contribute, like X did last year, but no one likely outside of round 1 as full time starter day 1.
This all of course is my opinion and I admit to not being some super genius. We might be able to find a starter in the draft.
I gotta say the free agent OTs really dont impress me in the slightest, at least with edge guys there are a few decent options. Who are some edge guys in the draft you like?? |
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Post by IrishMike on Mar 10, 2020 17:49:52 GMT -5
I gotta say the free agent OTs really dont impress me in the slightest, at least with edge guys there are a few decent options. Who are some edge guys in the draft you like?? We don't have much of a choice but to bring some OT in with free agency. Even if we 100% will go OT in round 1 we still need help. Depth is a huge concern and there is always a chance something crazy happens in the draft (Young falls to us at 4, Oakland offers a ridiculous trade up and all top 4 OTs are gone by our pick ect). Have to be prepared, can't risk going into the season without a RT or any depth.
I'm really not that impressed with this edge class other than Young. You have Chaisson and Epenesa that are decent, not amazing. I like Zach Baun but don't think he is a blow your socks off guy. Okwara is good but not great. Gross-Matos is pretty decent. There are some decent LBs but most of them are coverage guys, not blitzers. I don't anticipate much edge pass rush help coming from this class.
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