According to Sportrac...free agency plan

[IrishMike]

Good Morning everyone. According to Sportrac we have about $73 million in cap space right now, with the ability to rather easily free up another $8m (Tate, Ellison, Bethea). This really frees us up to get a little crazy and fill some holes in free agency. I was messing around with the numbers to see just how much that money can get us in free agency.

If I were in charge and I was the greatest negotiator with the ability to sign anyone I wanted here is what I would do.

First re-sign Mr. Consistent, Markus Golden to $13m a year

I sign Game changer, Jadeveon Clowney to $20m a year (more than I would want but in this market it's realistic).

I sign coverage LB Joe Schobert to $12m a year (might be able to get him for less, tough to judge this market)

I sign road grader Jack Conklin to $16m a year

This leaves us with $9m in the cap. So I release Bethea, moving us to $12m. My man Rhett Ellison retires, moving us to $17m in cap space.

Now onto the draft. This frees us up to take anyone we want. If we decide to go Fab 4 OT in round 1 to replace Solder we can do it and release Solder if our rookie is ready (at pick 4 he should be ready to step in day 1, I think they are). Solder's release wouldn't add a great number this year, but gets us to $23m.

If we don't go Fab 4 and go Simmons (or Young falls to us) then we would keep Solder for 1 more year. Hopefully we get lucky and Jackson or Jones fall to us in round 2 and we can groom them for a year to replace Solder next year (or they beat him out this year).

Going into the draft with Clowney, Golden, Schobert and Connelly as your starting LBs is great. If we draft Simmons/Young then we drop Golden and Clowney down to DE.

We would have to game plan around Conklin a bit as he did receive chips from TEs/RBs a lot in pass pro last year, but having Zeitler next to him instead of Nate Davis will help him tremendously. What he adds to the run game will make up for his pass pro (which is still an improvement over Remmers).

One gaping hole still exists at C but this draft is pretty deep at the position and I think we will go C in round 2 or 3. Also think we can add a WR depending on what else we do in round 1.

That is my plan. I'm sure I put enough in there to piss everyone off in some way. Our off season plan has to revolve around fixing the OL and the LB corps and finding a way to get some pass rush. I would like to keep Williams but don't think we can if we re-sign Golden and sign Clowney. If we go with a cheaper option than Clowney we can work Williams in there. This is just 1 potential scenario. I encourage you to add your plan, keeping in mind we don't know who will fall in the draft.

[McCherry]

Those are exactly the free agency moves I wouldn’t make. Maybe Schobert but not for that money.

[bavarobeast]

You put a lot of thought into that. 

The main negatives for me are Conklin's pass pro and I don’t like Simmons at all at 4. Clowney ........? I wouldn’t hate it. 
I want another legit weapon for DJ - Jeudy - Lamb - Reagor. There are some others but those are my top 3. 

Nothing In your post should piss off anyone but there are some very sensitive know it all’s on this board. 

[TEM]

Even with your numbers of 17 in cap space. 8 million in cap space minimum for the draft. ( pick 4 will be 6 alone) That is not including what we may get for comp picks. It may be as high as 10 for draft picks. ( Last year draft picks were 12 million)

That leaves 9 million to fill out the rest of the roster

Your FA's and the draft picks take up 12 roster spots - 2 for Rett and Bethea. (10 spots filled between the Draft and FA.) I don't see How the remaining 9 million can fill out the roster ( depth ) and still have enough of a buffer to enter the season with. Remember Going in without a Kicker, and Center. Both have to be singed.

[TCHOF]

Not re-signing Williams?

I’m not paying huge money to an OT that we have to game plan around

[Deleted]

You're hired. At the end of the day, I decided you were a smaaat guy.

On a side note, what would it take to get Littleton in blue?

[mikethenygfan]

Mar 7, 2020 10:10:05 GMT -5 IrishMike said:

Good Morning everyone. According to Sportrac we have about $73 million in cap space right now, with the ability to rather easily free up another $8m (Tate, Ellison, Bethea). This really frees us up to get a little crazy and fill some holes in free agency. I was messing around with the numbers to see just how much that money can get us in free agency.

If I were in charge and I was the greatest negotiator with the ability to sign anyone I wanted here is what I would do.

First re-sign Mr. Consistent, Markus Golden to $13m a year

I sign Game changer, Jadeveon Clowney to $20m a year (more than I would want but in this market it's realistic).

I sign coverage LB Joe Schobert to $12m a year (might be able to get him for less, tough to judge this market)

I sign road grader Jack Conklin to $16m a year

This leaves us with $9m in the cap. So I release Bethea, moving us to $12m. My man Rhett Ellison retires, moving us to $17m in cap space.

Now onto the draft. This frees us up to take anyone we want. If we decide to go Fab 4 OT in round 1 to replace Solder we can do it and release Solder if our rookie is ready (at pick 4 he should be ready to step in day 1, I think they are). Solder's release wouldn't add a great number this year, but gets us to $23m.

If we don't go Fab 4 and go Simmons (or Young falls to us) then we would keep Solder for 1 more year. Hopefully we get lucky and Jackson or Jones fall to us in round 2 and we can groom them for a year to replace Solder next year (or they beat him out this year).

Going into the draft with Clowney, Golden, Schobert and Connelly as your starting LBs is great. If we draft Simmons/Young then we drop Golden and Clowney down to DE.

We would have to game plan around Conklin a bit as he did receive chips from TEs/RBs a lot in pass pro last year, but having Zeitler next to him instead of Nate Davis will help him tremendously. What he adds to the run game will make up for his pass pro (which is still an improvement over Remmers).

One gaping hole still exists at C but this draft is pretty deep at the position and I think we will go C in round 2 or 3. Also think we can add a WR depending on what else we do in round 1.

That is my plan. I'm sure I put enough in there to piss everyone off in some way. Our off season plan has to revolve around fixing the OL and the LB corps and finding a way to get some pass rush. I would like to keep Williams but don't think we can if we re-sign Golden and sign Clowney. If we go with a cheaper option than Clowney we can work Williams in there. This is just 1 potential scenario. I encourage you to add your plan, keeping in mind we don't know who will fall in the draft.

i like it except thats alot of cap space on 4 players, i would let golden walk and use that 13 mill to fill out the roster with some depth.

[mikethenygfan]

Mar 7, 2020 10:10:05 GMT -5 IrishMike said:

Good Morning everyone. According to Sportrac we have about $73 million in cap space right now, with the ability to rather easily free up another $8m (Tate, Ellison, Bethea). This really frees us up to get a little crazy and fill some holes in free agency. I was messing around with the numbers to see just how much that money can get us in free agency.

If I were in charge and I was the greatest negotiator with the ability to sign anyone I wanted here is what I would do.

First re-sign Mr. Consistent, Markus Golden to $13m a year

I sign Game changer, Jadeveon Clowney to $20m a year (more than I would want but in this market it's realistic).

I sign coverage LB Joe Schobert to $12m a year (might be able to get him for less, tough to judge this market)

I sign road grader Jack Conklin to $16m a year

This leaves us with $9m in the cap. So I release Bethea, moving us to $12m. My man Rhett Ellison retires, moving us to $17m in cap space.

Now onto the draft. This frees us up to take anyone we want. If we decide to go Fab 4 OT in round 1 to replace Solder we can do it and release Solder if our rookie is ready (at pick 4 he should be ready to step in day 1, I think they are). Solder's release wouldn't add a great number this year, but gets us to $23m.

If we don't go Fab 4 and go Simmons (or Young falls to us) then we would keep Solder for 1 more year. Hopefully we get lucky and Jackson or Jones fall to us in round 2 and we can groom them for a year to replace Solder next year (or they beat him out this year).

Going into the draft with Clowney, Golden, Schobert and Connelly as your starting LBs is great. If we draft Simmons/Young then we drop Golden and Clowney down to DE.

We would have to game plan around Conklin a bit as he did receive chips from TEs/RBs a lot in pass pro last year, but having Zeitler next to him instead of Nate Davis will help him tremendously. What he adds to the run game will make up for his pass pro (which is still an improvement over Remmers).

One gaping hole still exists at C but this draft is pretty deep at the position and I think we will go C in round 2 or 3. Also think we can add a WR depending on what else we do in round 1.

That is my plan. I'm sure I put enough in there to piss everyone off in some way. Our off season plan has to revolve around fixing the OL and the LB corps and finding a way to get some pass rush. I would like to keep Williams but don't think we can if we re-sign Golden and sign Clowney. If we go with a cheaper option than Clowney we can work Williams in there. This is just 1 potential scenario. I encourage you to add your plan, keeping in mind we don't know who will fall in the draft.

i would also rather pay williams then clowney because of clowneys injury history

[IrishMike]

Mar 7, 2020 11:10:30 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

Not re-signing Williams?

I’m not paying huge money to an OT that we have to game plan around

Maybe game plan around is the wrong wording. He is better than Remmers in pass pro and way better in the run game. He isn't the greatest pass pro guy on earth, so we would have to sign him knowing that.

This was just one scenario. We can do another one where Williams is retained. I am a fan of keeping him. Just wanted to see how many "big time" free agents we could afford with our cap space. An experiment if you will.

[IrishMike]

Mar 7, 2020 11:19:45 GMT -5 mikethenygfan said:

i would also rather pay williams then clowney because of clowneys injury history

I think his injuries are a bit blown out of proportion. It's not ideal but the last few years he hasn't missed many games. Signing him for $20m isn't ideal to me, just part of this exercise to see if we can.

[IrishMike]

Mar 7, 2020 11:10:31 GMT -5 @kissjrj said:

You're hired. At the end of the day, I decided you were a smaaat guy.

On a side note, what would it take to get Littleton in blue?

I am reading estimates of Littleton around $13m. I personally think that might be a little low. He will be on my next plan that I do for sure. If we could sign him I would do it in a second, especially at $13m.

[IrishMike]

Mar 7, 2020 11:05:39 GMT -5 TEM said:

Even with your numbers of 17 in cap space. 8 million in cap space minimum for the draft. ( pick 4 will be 6 alone) That is not including what we may get for comp picks. It may be as high as 10 for draft picks. ( Last year draft picks were 12 million)

That leaves 9 million to fill out the rest of the roster

Your FA's and the draft picks take up 12 roster spots - 2 for Rett and Bethea. (10 spots filled between the Draft and FA.) I don't see How the remaining 9 million can fill out the roster ( depth ) and still have enough of a buffer to enter the season with. Remember Going in without a Kicker, and Center. Both have to be singed.

$17m is plenty of money because only the top 54 count against the cap and last year it cost us $12m to sign the draft picks with 3 first rounders. It will be much cheaper this year.

[DandyDon]

Mar 7, 2020 10:10:05 GMT -5 IrishMike said:

Good Morning everyone. According to Sportrac we have about $73 million in cap space right now, with the ability to rather easily free up another $8m (Tate, Ellison, Bethea). This really frees us up to get a little crazy and fill some holes in free agency. I was messing around with the numbers to see just how much that money can get us in free agency.

If I were in charge and I was the greatest negotiator with the ability to sign anyone I wanted here is what I would do.

First re-sign Mr. Consistent, Markus Golden to $13m a year

I sign Game changer, Jadeveon Clowney to $20m a year (more than I would want but in this market it's realistic).

I sign coverage LB Joe Schobert to $12m a year (might be able to get him for less, tough to judge this market)

I sign road grader Jack Conklin to $16m a year

This leaves us with $9m in the cap. So I release Bethea, moving us to $12m. My man Rhett Ellison retires, moving us to $17m in cap space.

Now onto the draft. This frees us up to take anyone we want. If we decide to go Fab 4 OT in round 1 to replace Solder we can do it and release Solder if our rookie is ready (at pick 4 he should be ready to step in day 1, I think they are). Solder's release wouldn't add a great number this year, but gets us to $23m.

If we don't go Fab 4 and go Simmons (or Young falls to us) then we would keep Solder for 1 more year. Hopefully we get lucky and Jackson or Jones fall to us in round 2 and we can groom them for a year to replace Solder next year (or they beat him out this year).

Going into the draft with Clowney, Golden, Schobert and Connelly as your starting LBs is great. If we draft Simmons/Young then we drop Golden and Clowney down to DE.

We would have to game plan around Conklin a bit as he did receive chips from TEs/RBs a lot in pass pro last year, but having Zeitler next to him instead of Nate Davis will help him tremendously. What he adds to the run game will make up for his pass pro (which is still an improvement over Remmers).

One gaping hole still exists at C but this draft is pretty deep at the position and I think we will go C in round 2 or 3. Also think we can add a WR depending on what else we do in round 1.

That is my plan. I'm sure I put enough in there to piss everyone off in some way. Our off season plan has to revolve around fixing the OL and the LB corps and finding a way to get some pass rush. I would like to keep Williams but don't think we can if we re-sign Golden and sign Clowney. If we go with a cheaper option than Clowney we can work Williams in there. This is just 1 potential scenario. I encourage you to add your plan, keeping in mind we don't know who will fall in the draft.

I would want a C in FA.  And DG says he wants 20 mill as reserve.

[IrishMike]

Mar 7, 2020 11:05:17 GMT -5 McCherry said:

Those are exactly the free agency moves I wouldn’t make. Maybe Schobert but not for that money.

Haha fair enough. It was just an experiment to see what the money can get us. There are so many options. What guys would you sign?

[IrishMike]

Mar 7, 2020 11:29:52 GMT -5 DandyDon said:

I would want a C in FA.  And DG says he wants 20 mill as reserve.

So my thought process with C was that I could go FA route, which I am a fan of too; but for this exercise I decided to fill the OT void with the idea that a C will definitely be there in round 2 for us, while an OT might not be. With the idea of being free to go D or O in round 1 as my goal I had to fill OT rather than C.

[TEM]

Mar 7, 2020 11:29:29 GMT -5 IrishMike said:

Mar 7, 2020 11:05:39 GMT -5 TEM said:

Even with your numbers of 17 in cap space. 8 million in cap space minimum for the draft. ( pick 4 will be 6 alone) That is not including what we may get for comp picks. It may be as high as 10 for draft picks. ( Last year draft picks were 12 million)

That leaves 9 million to fill out the rest of the roster

Your FA's and the draft picks take up 12 roster spots - 2 for Rett and Bethea. (10 spots filled between the Draft and FA.) I don't see How the remaining 9 million can fill out the roster ( depth ) and still have enough of a buffer to enter the season with. Remember Going in without a Kicker, and Center. Both have to be singed.

$17m is plenty of money because only the top 54 count against the cap and last year it cost us $12m to sign the draft picks with 3 first rounders. It will be much cheaper this year.

I have already said 8 for the draft ( that is reasonable minimum) That leaves 9 million to fill out the roster. We need a bare minimum of 6 as a buffer.  I don't see how  3 million fills out the depth on the team.  The kicker will be as much as half of that. 

[TEM]

Mar 7, 2020 11:29:52 GMT -5 DandyDon said:

Mar 7, 2020 10:10:05 GMT -5 IrishMike said:

Good Morning everyone. According to Sportrac we have about $73 million in cap space right now, with the ability to rather easily free up another $8m (Tate, Ellison, Bethea). This really frees us up to get a little crazy and fill some holes in free agency. I was messing around with the numbers to see just how much that money can get us in free agency.

If I were in charge and I was the greatest negotiator with the ability to sign anyone I wanted here is what I would do.

First re-sign Mr. Consistent, Markus Golden to $13m a year

I sign Game changer, Jadeveon Clowney to $20m a year (more than I would want but in this market it's realistic).

I sign coverage LB Joe Schobert to $12m a year (might be able to get him for less, tough to judge this market)

I sign road grader Jack Conklin to $16m a year

This leaves us with $9m in the cap. So I release Bethea, moving us to $12m. My man Rhett Ellison retires, moving us to $17m in cap space.

Now onto the draft. This frees us up to take anyone we want. If we decide to go Fab 4 OT in round 1 to replace Solder we can do it and release Solder if our rookie is ready (at pick 4 he should be ready to step in day 1, I think they are). Solder's release wouldn't add a great number this year, but gets us to $23m.

If we don't go Fab 4 and go Simmons (or Young falls to us) then we would keep Solder for 1 more year. Hopefully we get lucky and Jackson or Jones fall to us in round 2 and we can groom them for a year to replace Solder next year (or they beat him out this year).

Going into the draft with Clowney, Golden, Schobert and Connelly as your starting LBs is great. If we draft Simmons/Young then we drop Golden and Clowney down to DE.

We would have to game plan around Conklin a bit as he did receive chips from TEs/RBs a lot in pass pro last year, but having Zeitler next to him instead of Nate Davis will help him tremendously. What he adds to the run game will make up for his pass pro (which is still an improvement over Remmers).

One gaping hole still exists at C but this draft is pretty deep at the position and I think we will go C in round 2 or 3. Also think we can add a WR depending on what else we do in round 1.

That is my plan. I'm sure I put enough in there to piss everyone off in some way. Our off season plan has to revolve around fixing the OL and the LB corps and finding a way to get some pass rush. I would like to keep Williams but don't think we can if we re-sign Golden and sign Clowney. If we go with a cheaper option than Clowney we can work Williams in there. This is just 1 potential scenario. I encourage you to add your plan, keeping in mind we don't know who will fall in the draft.

I would want a C in FA.  And DG says he wants 20 mill as reserve.

I read the same thing with Dave's 20 in reserves. 

[giantlegacy]

This is what I usually do on fanspeak (the 1st year numbers are a bit whack because it spreads the contract numbers the way I DON'T want to (because I ways have 45 million left when I would front load the 1at 2 years with bigger numbers and as much guarenteed money as possible so the bigger contracts are more like 2 year deals)

ACTIONS
CUT
Name Position
Alec Ogletree LB
Rhett Ellison TE(retired)
Kareem Martin EDGE
Antoine Bethea S
RESTRUCTURED
Extended -,Dalvin Tomlinson
TRANSITION TAGGED
Name Position
SIGNES
Markus Golden EDGE
Leonard Williams DL
Cory Littleton LB
Logan Ryan CB
Devin Mccourty S
Connor McGovern C
Cody Core WR
Matt Slater WR

My biggest deals are keeping my front 3 intact with Tomlinson and Williams while Jones and Barkley are on rookie deals,Golden is a moderate deal ..
My biggest new Giants player is Littleton (probably get him for 14 million a year)so we have a legit athlete MLB

Only moves on "offense " get McGovern..while this is a deep C class,I kinda want a vet to stabilize what probably will become a very young but talented line over the next 2 to 3 years,and call protections (think of OHare with Eli)
Core and Slater being special teams aces and Core being a back end emergency depth possession type reciever if needed ...

Ryan and McCourty both have enough left to stabilize the back end with the young pups and have the NE connection with Judge you bring what seems to be that culture here(look what Ryan did for that defense in Tennessee

So doing this improves the defense enough so that it's at least competitive while plugging holes,allowing what young talent we have to develop with this staff,

And more importantly allows the team to build with young talent where the meat of the draft is,on offense,so a young core can grow and develop around Jones for a long term core..
Unless Young falls to us in this scenario it allows us even the opportunity to trade back and build the O line,WR and dip into the 2-5 rounds pool of linebackers which all of a sudden looks more talented in that area of the draft and maybe also pluck one of the highly athletic slot corners as well mid round...

[mikethenygfan]

Mar 7, 2020 11:26:30 GMT -5 IrishMike said:

Mar 7, 2020 11:19:45 GMT -5 mikethenygfan said:

i would also rather pay williams then clowney because of clowneys injury history

I think his injuries are a bit blown out of proportion. It's not ideal but the last few years he hasn't missed many games. Signing him for $20m isn't ideal to me, just part of this exercise to see if we can.

yeah but he was having alot of issues with his knee early in his career just a little to risky for me but i wouldnt hate it.

[bringsimmsback]

Mar 7, 2020 11:43:32 GMT -5 TEM said:

Mar 7, 2020 11:29:52 GMT -5 DandyDon said:

I would want a C in FA.  And DG says he wants 20 mill as reserve.

I read the same thing with Dave's 20 in reserves. 

According to Jon Smelck of BBKL, based on a few different quotes of DGs given at different times, that figure probably included the amount needed to sign the rookies.

[TEM]

Here the chart on waht the 2020 Draft picks will cost. We are over 10 million just for picks ( that is - our traded 3rd round pick) 71 million with FA and draft picks.

overthecap.com/draft/

[IrishMike]

Mar 7, 2020 11:45:04 GMT -5 mikethenygfan said:

Mar 7, 2020 11:26:30 GMT -5 IrishMike said:

I think his injuries are a bit blown out of proportion. It's not ideal but the last few years he hasn't missed many games. Signing him for $20m isn't ideal to me, just part of this exercise to see if we can.

yeah but he was having alot of issues with his knee early in his career just a little to risky for me but i wouldnt hate it.

I'm in the same boat. It's too risky and too much money for me, but I also would not hate it.

[IrishMike]

Mar 7, 2020 11:48:49 GMT -5 bringsimmsback said:

Mar 7, 2020 11:43:32 GMT -5 TEM said:

I read the same thing with Dave's 20 in reserves. 

According to Jon Smelck of BBKL, based on a few different quotes of DGs given at different times, that figure probably included the amount needed to sign the rookies.

Indeed this is what he meant IMO. I have read that from several different sources. He does not intend to go into the season with $20m in unused money because that would incur penalties.

[Deleted]

Mar 7, 2020 11:05:28 GMT -5 bavarobeast said:

You put a lot of thought into that. 

The main negatives for me are Conklin's pass pro and I don’t like Simmons at all at 4. Clowney ........? I wouldn’t hate it. 
I want another legit weapon for DJ - Jeudy - Lamb - Reagor. There are some others but those are my top 3. 

Nothing In your post should piss off anyone but there are some very sensitive know it all’s on this board. 

Jeudy and Lamb will probably go 1st round. We have so many holes that I feel we should address before WR. If we go go WR wait to round 4 or 5

[Deleted]

Mar 7, 2020 10:10:05 GMT -5 IrishMike said:

Good Morning everyone. According to Sportrac we have about $73 million in cap space right now, with the ability to rather easily free up another $8m (Tate, Ellison, Bethea). This really frees us up to get a little crazy and fill some holes in free agency. I was messing around with the numbers to see just how much that money can get us in free agency.

If I were in charge and I was the greatest negotiator with the ability to sign anyone I wanted here is what I would do.

First re-sign Mr. Consistent, Markus Golden to $13m a year

I sign Game changer, Jadeveon Clowney to $20m a year (more than I would want but in this market it's realistic).

I sign coverage LB Joe Schobert to $12m a year (might be able to get him for less, tough to judge this market)

I sign road grader Jack Conklin to $16m a year

This leaves us with $9m in the cap. So I release Bethea, moving us to $12m. My man Rhett Ellison retires, moving us to $17m in cap space.

Now onto the draft. This frees us up to take anyone we want. If we decide to go Fab 4 OT in round 1 to replace Solder we can do it and release Solder if our rookie is ready (at pick 4 he should be ready to step in day 1, I think they are). Solder's release wouldn't add a great number this year, but gets us to $23m.

If we don't go Fab 4 and go Simmons (or Young falls to us) then we would keep Solder for 1 more year. Hopefully we get lucky and Jackson or Jones fall to us in round 2 and we can groom them for a year to replace Solder next year (or they beat him out this year).

Going into the draft with Clowney, Golden, Schobert and Connelly as your starting LBs is great. If we draft Simmons/Young then we drop Golden and Clowney down to DE.

We would have to game plan around Conklin a bit as he did receive chips from TEs/RBs a lot in pass pro last year, but having Zeitler next to him instead of Nate Davis will help him tremendously. What he adds to the run game will make up for his pass pro (which is still an improvement over Remmers).

One gaping hole still exists at C but this draft is pretty deep at the position and I think we will go C in round 2 or 3. Also think we can add a WR depending on what else we do in round 1.

That is my plan. I'm sure I put enough in there to piss everyone off in some way. Our off season plan has to revolve around fixing the OL and the LB corps and finding a way to get some pass rush. I would like to keep Williams but don't think we can if we re-sign Golden and sign Clowney. If we go with a cheaper option than Clowney we can work Williams in there. This is just 1 potential scenario. I encourage you to add your plan, keeping in mind we don't know who will fall in the draft.

I like everything you did here. What I would think is icing on the cake would be to drop back a couple of picks. Still get out guy and have an extra 2nd or 3

[TEM]

Mar 7, 2020 12:01:10 GMT -5 IrishMike said:

Mar 7, 2020 11:48:49 GMT -5 bringsimmsback said:

According to Jon Smelck of BBKL, based on a few different quotes of DGs given at different times, that figure probably included the amount needed to sign the rookies.

Indeed this is what he meant IMO. I have read that from several different sources. He does not intend to go into the season with $20m in unused money because that would incur penalties.

There would be no penalties. Each team is required to spend 88.8 percent of the allotted cap  $ 200,000,000. at 88.8% of the cap is $177,600,000

[IrishMike]

Mar 7, 2020 12:05:29 GMT -5 @jjtrees said:

I like everything you did here. What I would think is icing on the cake would be to drop back a couple of picks. Still get out guy and have an extra 2nd or 3

Dropping back to Miami and getting and extra two 2nd round picks would be incredible IMO. Not sure it will be possible, can't wait to see how the draft shakes out.

[IrishMike]

Mar 7, 2020 12:06:34 GMT -5 TEM said:

Mar 7, 2020 12:01:10 GMT -5 IrishMike said:

Indeed this is what he meant IMO. I have read that from several different sources. He does not intend to go into the season with $20m in unused money because that would incur penalties.

There would be no penalties. Each team is required to spend 88.8 percent of the allotted cap  $ 200,000,000. at 88.8% of the cap is $177,600,000

That 88.8% number was just for the first year of the deal, with 90% being the number for each additional year. At least that is how I understood it. Also it does not really matter because that number is an average of each 4 year period. I don't know what our numbers were for the last 4 years but I'm sure we are fine.

Still does not change anything since we won't be entering the season with $20m in unused money. Can you imagine how much people would roast DG if he had money sitting there not getting used on players, especially enough money to sign a top tier free agent? Oh man.

[DandyDon]

Mar 7, 2020 11:32:18 GMT -5 IrishMike said:

Mar 7, 2020 11:29:52 GMT -5 DandyDon said:

I would want a C in FA.  And DG says he wants 20 mill as reserve.

So my thought process with C was that I could go FA route, which I am a fan of too; but for this exercise I decided to fill the OT void with the idea that a C will definitely be there in round 2 for us, while an OT might not be. With the idea of being free to go D or O in round 1 as my goal I had to fill OT rather than C.

Yeah, and it might be easier to get a day one starter at C than OT.  Although I have no idea what Cs are available in the draft.  And I'm still of the opinion that an improved C will make both OTs more effective.

[DandyDon]

Mar 7, 2020 11:48:49 GMT -5 bringsimmsback said:

Mar 7, 2020 11:43:32 GMT -5 TEM said:

I read the same thing with Dave's 20 in reserves. 

According to Jon Smelck of BBKL, based on a few different quotes of DGs given at different times, that figure probably included the amount needed to sign the rookies.

I'm sure it is.  It would be silly (and perhaps fine-able) to let that much sit not being used.