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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 22, 2020 15:06:13 GMT -5
It depends on how desperate they are and how well the FO's art of deception is on their "we have a lot of contenders bidding for our pick" campaign is. I think getting a 2nd 1st round pick is doable. The Bears traded the Nos. 3, 67 and 111 picks, as well as a 2018 third-round pick, to the San Francisco 49ers in exchange for the second overall pick. That is a little higher in the draft, but also the most recent example that I can think of a a trade up for one spot. That's a second rounder, 4th and third next year. Are those 3 picks worth a 1st rounder to the dolphins? Eh maybe. Prehaps they can pull something off with Miami like, a 1st round pick and we throw in our 4th for the 1st round pick swap. Something like that may work out. Depends on how badly these teams want "their guy" at qb. If Miami wants Tua and thinks the chargers would trade up with the giants, are they really going to let that happen and miss out on their guy just because a 1st round pick to move one spot is "bad value" in a trade? Thats assuming the skins don't take Tua, wouldn't be the craziest thing we've ever seen in a draft.
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Post by TEM on Mar 22, 2020 15:08:39 GMT -5
The Bears traded the Nos. 3, 67 and 111 picks, as well as a 2018 third-round pick, to the San Francisco 49ers in exchange for the second overall pick. That is a little higher in the draft, but also the most recent example that I can think of a a trade up for one spot. That's a second rounder, 4th and third next year. Are those 3 picks worth a 1st rounder to the dolphins? Eh maybe. Prehaps they can pull something off with Miami like, a 1st round pick and we throw in our 4th for the 1st round pick swap. Something like that may work out. Depends on how badly these teams want "their guy" at qb. If Miami wants Tua and thinks the chargers would trade up with the giants, are they really going to let that happen and miss out on their guy just because a 1st round pick to move one spot is "bad value" in a trade? Thats assuming the skins don't take Tua, wouldn't be the craziest thing we've ever seen in a draft. Or deal the pick
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Post by TheAnalyst on Mar 25, 2020 7:09:56 GMT -5
Quick recap of the best Lloyd Cushenberry III LSU
Not athletic, far better run blocking center vs pass blocking. Anybody who watched the championship game seen him toasted on blitzes quite a bit... Can run block, and while not athletic, can move nose tackles. Run blocking is a FAR better trait as we know for centers...he can power block. Jake Hanson - OregonClassic zone blocker...exact opposite of a Biadasz and Cushenberry, but not quick off the snap...never improved snapping the ball in 4 years as a Duck. Has nice balance, but a 3rd day pick. Nick Harris - WashingtonBest zone blocking center this year...my choice for screens to Barkley. Still needs to get stronger, but the Huskies had a good one...improved his grades all three years. Tyler Biadasz - Wisconsin Run blocking monster...slides slow, and pass protection not his strength. Matt Hennessy - TempleAnother zone blocking master who also has high pass blocking grades. Has some issues, needs to beef up...but Matt could be that 3 or 4 round center who starts year 1. Cesar Ruiz - MichiganThis is a high graded pass blocking center, but again...with centers, they are about run blocking first, and he has issues with that. Still young, and will improve... Well, this doesnt paint a good picture for any of them... Cushenberry not athletic? Eh. Ruiz not a run blocker and lacks strength? Sounds like Richberg to me. Biadiaz non existant pass protector? Jeez... Are there any well rounded Cs in this draft? Maybe finding one in FA is the best option if these analysis are true.
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Post by GameTime on Mar 25, 2020 7:24:46 GMT -5
Quick recap of the best Lloyd Cushenberry III LSU
Not athletic, far better run blocking center vs pass blocking. Anybody who watched the championship game seen him toasted on blitzes quite a bit... Can run block, and while not athletic, can move nose tackles. Run blocking is a FAR better trait as we know for centers...he can power block. Jake Hanson - OregonClassic zone blocker...exact opposite of a Biadasz and Cushenberry, but not quick off the snap...never improved snapping the ball in 4 years as a Duck. Has nice balance, but a 3rd day pick. Nick Harris - WashingtonBest zone blocking center this year...my choice for screens to Barkley. Still needs to get stronger, but the Huskies had a good one...improved his grades all three years. Tyler Biadasz - Wisconsin Run blocking monster...slides slow, and pass protection not his strength. Matt Hennessy - TempleAnother zone blocking master who also has high pass blocking grades. Has some issues, needs to beef up...but Matt could be that 3 or 4 round center who starts year 1. Cesar Ruiz - MichiganThis is a high graded pass blocking center, but again...with centers, they are about run blocking first, and he has issues with that. Still young, and will improve... Well, this doesnt paint a good picture for any of them... Cushenberry not athletic? Eh. Ruiz not a run blocker and lacks strength? Sounds like Richberg to me. Biadiaz non existant pass protector? Jeez... Are there any well rounded Cs in this draft? Maybe finding one in FA is the best option if these analysis are true. seems most college O-linmen....even the good ones.....lack things. They just arent "trained" for the pro game.
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Post by TEM on Mar 25, 2020 7:35:08 GMT -5
Well, this doesnt paint a good picture for any of them... Cushenberry not athletic? Eh. Ruiz not a run blocker and lacks strength? Sounds like Richberg to me. Biadiaz non existant pass protector? Jeez... Are there any well rounded Cs in this draft? Maybe finding one in FA is the best option if these analysis are true. seems most college O-linmen....even the good ones.....lack things. They just arent "trained" for the pro game. Outside of a RB. Are any rookies truly prepared? It is a different game. It is football, but the rules between the NCAA and NFL are different.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Mar 25, 2020 7:40:53 GMT -5
Well, this doesnt paint a good picture for any of them... Cushenberry not athletic? Eh. Ruiz not a run blocker and lacks strength? Sounds like Richberg to me. Biadiaz non existant pass protector? Jeez... Are there any well rounded Cs in this draft? Maybe finding one in FA is the best option if these analysis are true. seems most college O-linmen....even the good ones.....lack things. They just arent "trained" for the pro game. But not being athletic or having great overall strength are tough ones to get trained on.
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Post by GameTime on Mar 25, 2020 7:46:55 GMT -5
seems most college O-linmen....even the good ones.....lack things. They just arent "trained" for the pro game. But not being athletic or having great overall strength are tough ones to get trained on. agreed....I said the same thing when I saw Cushenberry's profile have to go on general attributes to a degree
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Post by GameTime on Mar 25, 2020 7:50:36 GMT -5
seems most college O-linmen....even the good ones.....lack things. They just arent "trained" for the pro game. Outside of a RB. Are any rookies truly prepared? It is a different game. It is football, but the rules between the NCAA and NFL are different. yeah I get that.....just seems more exaggerated then in the past. On that note thats why Becton is a semi distant 4th choice at OL for me. When I look at some of the film all I see is a huge guy who over powers his no pro level opponents. He may be athletic but to me he looks slow and has some technique issues. I like Thomas first out of the other 3.
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Post by TEM on Mar 25, 2020 7:51:51 GMT -5
Outside of a RB. Are any rookies truly prepared? It is a different game. It is football, but the rules between the NCAA and NFL are different. yeah I get that.....just seems more exaggerated then in the past. On that note thats why Becton is a semi distant 4th choice at OL for me. When I look at some of the film all I see is a huge guy who over powers his no pro level opponents. He may be athletic but to me he looks slow and has some technique issues. I like Thomas first out of the other 3. I can agree with that. Thomas is my 1st choice also.
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Post by piddy283 on Mar 25, 2020 17:50:39 GMT -5
Thanks gentlemen- any thoughts on how we can manage to get a T, C, cover LB and WR in this draft? All starters except for WR? Specific candidates you think will be around at specific points? Past Tackle in the first, finding a third starter gets tougher depending on which direction you go in the second. Aris, it seems you enjoy these types of questions - thoughts? One option would be to trade back with the Phins. At a minimum, get their #5, their #18, and their #39 (Rd.2). 5- Fab 4 OT 18 - Murray or Chaisson 36 - Denzel Mims 39 - Zack Baun In rounds 3+ focus on Center, FS and additional depth. That'd be a solid start.
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Post by giantsalmon on Mar 25, 2020 18:55:11 GMT -5
Thanks gentlemen- any thoughts on how we can manage to get a T, C, cover LB and WR in this draft? All starters except for WR? Specific candidates you think will be around at specific points? Past Tackle in the first, finding a third starter gets tougher depending on which direction you go in the second. Aris, it seems you enjoy these types of questions - thoughts? One option would be to trade back with the Phins. At a minimum, get their #5, their #18, and their #39 (Rd.2). 5- Fab 4 OT 18 - Murray or Chaisson 36 - Denzel Mims 39 - Zack Baun In rounds 3+ focus on Center, FS and additional depth. That'd be a solid start. THAT, would be DAMN solid.
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Post by bringsimmsback on Mar 25, 2020 21:47:31 GMT -5
One option would be to trade back with the Phins. At a minimum, get their #5, their #18, and their #39 (Rd.2). 5- Fab 4 OT 18 - Murray or Chaisson 36 - Denzel Mims 39 - Zack Baun In rounds 3+ focus on Center, FS and additional depth. That'd be a solid start. THAT, would be DAMN solid. That would be cool but I don't see the Dolphins doing that deal. Much more likely would be Jaguars or Raiders giving us both their round 1 picks to move up and get a player they love. The problem with that is we don't get first pick of the Fab Four - though I think one falls to us. Another option, more likely, I think, is someone wants to move up to grab a QB or other player who dropped with our second-round pick. We could probably get an early third and some day 3 picks that way.
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Post by giantsalmon on Mar 26, 2020 7:23:32 GMT -5
THAT, would be DAMN solid. That would be cool but I don't see the Dolphins doing that deal. Much more likely would be Jaguars or Raiders giving us both their round 1 picks to move up and get a player they love. The problem with that is we don't get first pick of the Fab Four - though I think one falls to us. Another option, more likely, I think, is someone wants to move up to grab a QB or other player who dropped with our second-round pick. We could probably get an early third and some day 3 picks that way. You may be right, but I'm sensing some draft night trade fireworks. The Dolphins were big spenders in FA and if they want a shot at a rookie franchise QB prospect may throw caution to the wind.
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Post by lexington11 on Mar 27, 2020 23:36:03 GMT -5
It’s fun to think about Simmons in a mental gymnastics, madden type of exercise. But he’s not what’s best for the team right now. Someone like Simmons at 14 or so next year, I could be persuaded. neither is taking an offensive lineman when the D is near the bottom of the league and cant stop anybody. just playing the other side of the coin.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 0:51:36 GMT -5
That would be cool but I don't see the Dolphins doing that deal. Much more likely would be Jaguars or Raiders giving us both their round 1 picks to move up and get a player they love. The problem with that is we don't get first pick of the Fab Four - though I think one falls to us. Another option, more likely, I think, is someone wants to move up to grab a QB or other player who dropped with our second-round pick. We could probably get an early third and some day 3 picks that way. You may be right, but I'm sensing some draft night trade fireworks. The Dolphins were big spenders in FA and if they want a shot at a rookie franchise QB prospect may throw caution to the wind. Yep, the vast QB value is what teams roll the dice over....hit on one and your franchise is set. Time to have teams roll that dice and give us all those picks...let them trade up for the next Rosen, or Mahomes...need to take advantage of Jones, both in financial terms of a rookie QB contract, and being stuck with him a while longer, hit or miss.
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Post by lasion2 on Mar 28, 2020 6:58:02 GMT -5
It’s fun to think about Simmons in a mental gymnastics, madden type of exercise. But he’s not what’s best for the team right now. Someone like Simmons at 14 or so next year, I could be persuaded. neither is taking an offensive lineman when the D is near the bottom of the league and cant stop anybody. just playing the other side of the coin. From what I’ve seen here, a majority of fans understand that protecting the second-year franchise qb and 2,000 yfs back are more important right now. I’ve posted this a few places on the board: I think going OT/C/WR early makes this a playoff caliber offense, frees up 20-25 million in cap space for 2021, and makes Zietler the only starter over 28 going forward. The flip side of the coin is selecting a player with no position or role that doesn’t upgrade the defense to playoff caliber. This results in DJ running for his life, fumbling, and getting injured while potentially stunting his growth for good in a pivotal year for his development. Ensuring that DJ has every opportunity to make a second year leap is absolutely the most critical issue in regards to the long term success of the entire organization. Simply put; there will be other Simmons’. There will not be another year 2 for DJ.
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Post by bringsimmsback on Mar 28, 2020 11:11:24 GMT -5
neither is taking an offensive lineman when the D is near the bottom of the league and cant stop anybody. just playing the other side of the coin. From what I’ve seen here, a majority of fans understand that protecting the second-year franchise qb and 2,000 yfs back are more important right now. I’ve posted this a few places on the board: I think going OT/C/WR early makes this a playoff caliber offense, frees up 20-25 million in cap space for 2021, and makes Zietler the only starter over 28 going forward. The flip side of the coin is selecting a player with no position or role that doesn’t upgrade the defense to playoff caliber. This results in DJ running for his life, fumbling, and getting injured while potentially stunting his growth for good in a pivotal year for his development. Ensuring that DJ has every opportunity to make a second year leap is absolutely the most critical issue in regards to the long term success of the entire organization. Simply put; there will be other Simmons’. There will not be another year 2 for DJ. I'm not on either side (though I lean taking an OT if we can trade back). That being said, it can be argued that Simmons, with the additions in FA, gets us to at least respectable on defense, and maybe better. If he is as good as some say, he may be what is best for the team, overall, for the next 5 to 8 years. We were already a good offense with the line we had last year. Our biggest problem was running up the middle (and trying to do so repeatedly). If it is possible to get one of the 6 tackles that are in the top 50 (most definitly not a given) and Simmons and a Center, I don't think there is much to argue about. The exception is if you have already decided that is impossible (which is what I mostly think) or that Simmons is over rated (which I don't). Bottom-line, I don't think this is cut and dry easy to decide territory unless you have decided Simmons is equal value or less than the tackles. I really hope we trade back.
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Post by lexington11 on Apr 3, 2020 9:43:01 GMT -5
neither is taking an offensive lineman when the D is near the bottom of the league and cant stop anybody. just playing the other side of the coin. From what I’ve seen here, a majority of fans understand that protecting the second-year franchise qb and 2,000 yfs back are more important right now. I’ve posted this a few places on the board: I think going OT/C/WR early makes this a playoff caliber offense, frees up 20-25 million in cap space for 2021, and makes Zietler the only starter over 28 going forward. The flip side of the coin is selecting a player with no position or role that doesn’t upgrade the defense to playoff caliber. This results in DJ running for his life, fumbling, and getting injured while potentially stunting his growth for good in a pivotal year for his development. Ensuring that DJ has every opportunity to make a second year leap is absolutely the most critical issue in regards to the long term success of the entire organization. Simply put; there will be other Simmons’. There will not be another year 2 for DJ. from what I see here is that a majority of the fans don’t understand that this team goes nowhere with a bottom of the barrel defense. Playoff ready offense? with a Swiss cheese defense. Simmons absolutely upgrades any defense, you’ve been listening to too many of the talking heads in here. For a player without a position he sure tore college football up. He has no position because he’s that good, he can play all over with not much drop off. I can can see your an oline guy which is fine, but let’s let’s not diminish how dominant this kid is to serve an agenda.
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 3, 2020 9:50:49 GMT -5
neither is taking an offensive lineman when the D is near the bottom of the league and cant stop anybody. just playing the other side of the coin. From what I’ve seen here, a majority of fans understand that protecting the second-year franchise qb and 2,000 yfs back are more important right now. I’ve posted this a few places on the board: I think going OT/C/WR early makes this a playoff caliber offense, frees up 20-25 million in cap space for 2021, and makes Zietler the only starter over 28 going forward. The flip side of the coin is selecting a player with no position or role that doesn’t upgrade the defense to playoff caliber. This results in DJ running for his life, fumbling, and getting injured while potentially stunting his growth for good in a pivotal year for his development. Ensuring that DJ has every opportunity to make a second year leap is absolutely the most critical issue in regards to the long term success of the entire organization. Simply put; there will be other Simmons’. There will not be another year 2 for DJ. This is pretty much the way I see it. Jones is already behind the 8 ball going into his second year … new coaching staff, new scheme, no OTA's … we have to give this kid the best chance to succeed and that starts with improving the OL.
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 3, 2020 9:55:32 GMT -5
From what I’ve seen here, a majority of fans understand that protecting the second-year franchise qb and 2,000 yfs back are more important right now. I’ve posted this a few places on the board: I think going OT/C/WR early makes this a playoff caliber offense, frees up 20-25 million in cap space for 2021, and makes Zietler the only starter over 28 going forward. The flip side of the coin is selecting a player with no position or role that doesn’t upgrade the defense to playoff caliber. This results in DJ running for his life, fumbling, and getting injured while potentially stunting his growth for good in a pivotal year for his development. Ensuring that DJ has every opportunity to make a second year leap is absolutely the most critical issue in regards to the long term success of the entire organization. Simply put; there will be other Simmons’. There will not be another year 2 for DJ. This is pretty much the way I see it. Jones is already behind the 8 ball going into his second year … new coaching staff, new scheme, no OTA's … we have to give this kid the best chance to succeed and that starts with improving the OL. Its frightening how many don't see this urgancy, I really hope the powers that be see it like we don Nevermind the fact Gettleman is on the hot seat and he is now tied to Jones who for all intents and purposes was handpicked by the head coach he had a hand in hiring in 2018..
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Post by lasion2 on Apr 3, 2020 11:56:53 GMT -5
From what I’ve seen here, a majority of fans understand that protecting the second-year franchise qb and 2,000 yfs back are more important right now. I’ve posted this a few places on the board: I think going OT/C/WR early makes this a playoff caliber offense, frees up 20-25 million in cap space for 2021, and makes Zietler the only starter over 28 going forward. The flip side of the coin is selecting a player with no position or role that doesn’t upgrade the defense to playoff caliber. This results in DJ running for his life, fumbling, and getting injured while potentially stunting his growth for good in a pivotal year for his development. Ensuring that DJ has every opportunity to make a second year leap is absolutely the most critical issue in regards to the long term success of the entire organization. Simply put; there will be other Simmons’. There will not be another year 2 for DJ. from what I see here is that a majority of the fans don’t understand that this team goes nowhere with a bottom of the barrel defense. Playoff ready offense? with a Swiss cheese defense. Simmons absolutely upgrades any defense, you’ve been listening to too many of the talking heads in here. For a player without a position he sure tore college football up. He has no position because he’s that good, he can play all over with not much drop off. I can can see your an oline guy which is fine, but let’s let’s not diminish how dominant this kid is to serve an agenda. The Kansas City Chiefs were #17th in total defense. The defense got 6 picks in last years draft. At least 2 in this years draft, so far. And, 45 million in FA spending last month. My issue with Simmons is it may take 3 years to find out he is a good slot corner. Or 4 years to determine he is a good coverage LB that can’t shed blocks to the POA. The #4 overall pick is quite the steep price to pay. Suffice it to say, I’m not sold on his dominance. With the comparative worts of the OT class in mind, the OT is the better, safer, pick that also has the added benefit of helping the team more in the short term and long term. Direct question time: Do you want DJ to fail so DG gets fired and the new GM can pick Lawrence? Be honest.
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 3, 2020 13:11:18 GMT -5
from what I see here is that a majority of the fans don’t understand that this team goes nowhere with a bottom of the barrel defense. Playoff ready offense? with a Swiss cheese defense. Simmons absolutely upgrades any defense, you’ve been listening to too many of the talking heads in here. For a player without a position he sure tore college football up. He has no position because he’s that good, he can play all over with not much drop off. I can can see your an oline guy which is fine, but let’s let’s not diminish how dominant this kid is to serve an agenda. The Kansas City Chiefs were #17th in total defense. The defense got 6 picks in last years draft. At least 2 in this years draft, so far. And, 45 million in FA spending last month. My issue with Simmons is it may take 3 years to find out he is a good slot corner. Or 4 years to determine he is a good coverage LB that can’t shed blocks to the POA. The #4 overall pick is quite the steep price to pay. Suffice it to say, I’m not sold on his dominance. With the comparative worts of the OT class in mind, the OT is the better, safer, pick that also has the added benefit of helping the team more in the short term and long term. Direct question time: Do you want DJ to fail so DG gets fired and the new GM can pick Lawrence? Be honest. Kansas City's defense played much better the 2nd half of the season than they did the first half. It was more like they were in the bottom quartile the first half and top quartile to close out. Not sure they are a great example.
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 3, 2020 13:37:41 GMT -5
The Kansas City Chiefs were #17th in total defense. The defense got 6 picks in last years draft. At least 2 in this years draft, so far. And, 45 million in FA spending last month. My issue with Simmons is it may take 3 years to find out he is a good slot corner. Or 4 years to determine he is a good coverage LB that can’t shed blocks to the POA. The #4 overall pick is quite the steep price to pay. Suffice it to say, I’m not sold on his dominance. With the comparative worts of the OT class in mind, the OT is the better, safer, pick that also has the added benefit of helping the team more in the short term and long term. Direct question time: Do you want DJ to fail so DG gets fired and the new GM can pick Lawrence? Be honest. Kansas City's defense played much better the 2nd half of the season than they did the first half. It was more like they were in the bottom quartile the first half and top quartile to close out. Not sure they are a great example. The offense also put a lot of pressure on opposing offenses to keep up,especially when they decided to play along with the slow the game down/control the clock/limit opponent possessions starting the 2nd half vs Tennessee... Also A great Online can help overcome a not so good defense by controlling the ball and scoring 27-31 points a game while limiting possessions.. An athletic toy at a non premium position will not accomplish anything other than watching Jones get his ass kicked while the defense gives up the same amount of points a game dur to turnovers and being on the field too long
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Post by cruzsoldier on Apr 3, 2020 21:33:45 GMT -5
Lots of great posts about College OT prospects and thats where we need to go with the first pick--wherever that ends up being. If they pull a crafty tradeback, who are the top Center prospects? I really feel we need a major upgrade at Center. The Jacksonville Jaguars have basically traded all their good players I’d definitely call to inquire about their starting Center Brandon Linder he’s probably in top 5 centers in the league and he is only owed 7 million this season and I believe he’s still under contract for 2 more years with no guaranteed money.
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 4, 2020 7:06:39 GMT -5
Kansas City's defense played much better the 2nd half of the season than they did the first half. It was more like they were in the bottom quartile the first half and top quartile to close out. Not sure they are a great example. The offense also put a lot of pressure on opposing offenses to keep up,especially when they decided to play along with the slow the game down/control the clock/limit opponent possessions starting the 2nd half vs Tennessee... Also A great Online can help overcome a not so good defense by controlling the ball and scoring 27-31 points a game while limiting possessions.. An athletic toy at a non premium position will not accomplish anything other than watching Jones get his ass kicked while the defense gives up the same amount of points a game dur to turnovers and being on the field too long when offensive and defensive squads compliment each other, really good things tend to happen. As far as O Line goes, I think I've been pretty vocal and consistent about my preferences for this draft, and unless Young drops to us or another team really wow's us with a trade offer, I'd go Thomas, but would be fine if the team picks one of the other top tackles.
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Post by cruzsoldier on Apr 4, 2020 16:39:26 GMT -5
From what I’ve seen here, a majority of fans understand that protecting the second-year franchise qb and 2,000 yfs back are more important right now. I’ve posted this a few places on the board: I think going OT/C/WR early makes this a playoff caliber offense, frees up 20-25 million in cap space for 2021, and makes Zietler the only starter over 28 going forward. The flip side of the coin is selecting a player with no position or role that doesn’t upgrade the defense to playoff caliber. This results in DJ running for his life, fumbling, and getting injured while potentially stunting his growth for good in a pivotal year for his development. Ensuring that DJ has every opportunity to make a second year leap is absolutely the most critical issue in regards to the long term success of the entire organization. Simply put; there will be other Simmons’. There will not be another year 2 for DJ. This is pretty much the way I see it. Jones is already behind the 8 ball going into his second year … new coaching staff, new scheme, no OTA's … we have to give this kid the best chance to succeed and that starts with improving the OL. Besides all the obstacles of this being a successful season how can you bring Gettleman back if we have another 5 win season and we’re picking Top 5 in the draft for the 3rd consecutive year.? That doesn’t seem like progress to me.
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 7, 2020 7:17:06 GMT -5
Cam Fleming given no. 75 ... Halapio’s number.
I would think that this does not bode well for Halapio....
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Post by TEM on Apr 7, 2020 8:26:34 GMT -5
Outside of a RB. Are any rookies truly prepared? It is a different game. It is football, but the rules between the NCAA and NFL are different. True but it's all so the speed of the game . Every team is an "all star team " to a point. I agree with the speed of the game. That is easier to get accustom to. The other stuff is tough. It is especially difficult for O -line men . The run-pass block is illegal in the NFL. If an o-linemen block a guy 5 yards up the field. In the NCAA that is used to mask a pass play as a running play. It used a lot. Especially on an option play. In the NFL that will get flagged every time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 9:24:04 GMT -5
Quick recap of the best Lloyd Cushenberry III LSU
Not athletic, far better run blocking center vs pass blocking. Anybody who watched the championship game seen him toasted on blitzes quite a bit... Can run block, and while not athletic, can move nose tackles. Run blocking is a FAR better trait as we know for centers...he can power block. Jake Hanson - OregonClassic zone blocker...exact opposite of a Biadasz and Cushenberry, but not quick off the snap...never improved snapping the ball in 4 years as a Duck. Has nice balance, but a 3rd day pick. Nick Harris - WashingtonBest zone blocking center this year...my choice for screens to Barkley. Still needs to get stronger, but the Huskies had a good one...improved his grades all three years. Tyler Biadasz - Wisconsin Run blocking monster...slides slow, and pass protection not his strength. Matt Hennessy - TempleAnother zone blocking master who also has high pass blocking grades. Has some issues, needs to beef up...but Matt could be that 3 or 4 round center who starts year 1. Cesar Ruiz - MichiganThis is a high graded pass blocking center, but again...with centers, they are about run blocking first, and he has issues with that. Still young, and will improve... Matt Hennessy Rising up the boards....
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 15, 2020 12:17:31 GMT -5
Quick recap of the best Lloyd Cushenberry III LSU
Not athletic, far better run blocking center vs pass blocking. Anybody who watched the championship game seen him toasted on blitzes quite a bit... Can run block, and while not athletic, can move nose tackles. Run blocking is a FAR better trait as we know for centers...he can power block. Jake Hanson - OregonClassic zone blocker...exact opposite of a Biadasz and Cushenberry, but not quick off the snap...never improved snapping the ball in 4 years as a Duck. Has nice balance, but a 3rd day pick. Nick Harris - WashingtonBest zone blocking center this year...my choice for screens to Barkley. Still needs to get stronger, but the Huskies had a good one...improved his grades all three years. Tyler Biadasz - Wisconsin Run blocking monster...slides slow, and pass protection not his strength. Matt Hennessy - TempleAnother zone blocking master who also has high pass blocking grades. Has some issues, needs to beef up...but Matt could be that 3 or 4 round center who starts year 1. Cesar Ruiz - MichiganThis is a high graded pass blocking center, but again...with centers, they are about run blocking first, and he has issues with that. Still young, and will improve... Matt Hennessy Rising up the boards.... Seems that way
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