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Post by Antwuan on Apr 1, 2020 19:03:17 GMT -5
Let’s talk about the 2010 N.Y. Giants:
Looking back I thought this was a good team but not great. Eli Manning’s 25 INT’s really played a role in preventing the Giants from having a more successful season because I believe the talent was there on both sides. That game in December vs Philadelphia didn’t help either, I vividly remember the Giants getting crushed by Green Bay the next week. To me the Giants standout wins from that season was vs Panthers, Bears, Texans, Cowboys (On the Road), Seahawks, & Redskins (@ Home). Also 2010 was Hakeem Nicks breakout season.
What are your thoughts, memories, & experiences from the 2010 N.Y. Giants season?
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Post by SG88 on Apr 1, 2020 19:08:30 GMT -5
The only thing I really remember about that season is the DJax punt return play and the Giants following that up with getting obliterated by Green Bay in the following week.Yeah, I think it is safe to say that the December game against the Eagles did not help matters.
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Post by SG88 on Apr 1, 2020 19:11:34 GMT -5
just in case you guys need a reminder on how much I hate the Philadelphia Eagles.
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Post by SG88 on Apr 1, 2020 19:14:41 GMT -5
Matt Dodge was unfairly scapegoated by the Giants and our fans. He got all of the heat when the TEAM was the one that blew that late 21 point lead.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 2, 2020 12:14:35 GMT -5
Matt Dodge was unfairly scapegoated by the Giants and our fans. He got all of the heat when the TEAM was the one that blew that late 21 point lead. So you feel the same way about Trey Junkin then right? |
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Post by Roswell on Apr 2, 2020 12:25:56 GMT -5
Matt Dodge was unfairly scapegoated by the Giants and our fans. He got all of the heat when the TEAM was the one that blew that late 21 point lead. Totally agree. And Coughlin didn’t help matters by running out on the field and getting in his face. |
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Post by Roswell on Apr 2, 2020 12:28:29 GMT -5
Matt Dodge was unfairly scapegoated by the Giants and our fans. He got all of the heat when the TEAM was the one that blew that late 21 point lead. So you feel the same way about Trey Junkin then right? Absolutely. |
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 2, 2020 12:35:32 GMT -5
Matt Dodge was unfairly scapegoated by the Giants and our fans. He got all of the heat when the TEAM was the one that blew that late 21 point lead. Totally agree. And Coughlin didn’t help matters by running out on the field and getting in his face. So what? A head coach should not get angry at one of his players for not doing their job? Coughlin- “ I’ve never been around anything like this in my life, It’s about as empty as you get to feel in this business, right there.""I’ll take full responsibility for the last play. With (Jackson) back there, you don’t punt the ball to him."So even after the game Coughlin like he always does took full responsibility for the play. I think him going off was justified and warranted. It’s football, not hop scotch. Dodge has been on record that he understood Coughlins frustration and even stated that Coughlin was one of his biggest supporters that year. |
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Post by SG88 on Apr 2, 2020 12:42:00 GMT -5
Matt Dodge was unfairly scapegoated by the Giants and our fans. He got all of the heat when the TEAM was the one that blew that late 21 point lead. So you feel the same way about Trey Junkin then right? Absolutely. The offense went flat and the defense gave it up. Fans are silly to me. Both guys got death threats and thrown all of the blame in the world. IMO, it is never as simple as blaming one guy for a team's collapse or failure. |
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Post by Roswell on Apr 2, 2020 12:44:50 GMT -5
Totally agree. And Coughlin didn’t help matters by running out on the field and getting in his face. So what? A head coach who is on thin ice with his job should not get angry at one of his players for not doing their job? Coughlin- “ I’ve never been around anything like this in my life, It’s about as empty as you get to feel in this business, right there.""I’ll take full responsibility for the last play. With (Jackson) back there, you don’t punt the ball to him."So even after the game Coughlin like he always does took full responsibility for the play. I think him going off was justified and warranted. It’s football, not hop scotch. Dodge has been on record that he understood Coughlins frustration and even stated that Coughlin was one of his biggest supporters that year. The response I made was in response to Dodge being scapegoated. In spite of what Coughlin said after the game, to the fans who watched, he ripped into Dodge. That punt was fumbled, Jackson ran thru the whole team and what did Dodge have to do with blowing a huge fourth quarter lead at home to a division rival? Did he rip into Kenny Phillips when he waved at the WR that ran right past him to start the whole ball rolling? In spite of it all, I think one of Coughlin’s greatest coaching achievements was off the heels of that loss. Most teams close their window with a loss like that. The very next year the Giants won SB 46. |
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 2, 2020 12:48:16 GMT -5
So you feel the same way about Trey Junkin then right? Absolutely. The offense went flat and the defense gave it up. Fans are silly to me. Both guys got death threats and thrown all of the blame in the world. IMO, it is never as simple as blaming one guy for a team's collapse or failure. Death threats is way over board. But like life there is always something or someone to blame. No one mentions the 24 point lead the Giants gave up that day. No one mentions Strahan mocking TO when he got a first down when they were still down big. No one mentions how Fassel and his offense decided to take the rest of the game off. All fans remember his some 12 year veteran who we just signed a week prior missed the most important snap of his life. Which I give him the utmost respect for, after the game he took responsibility and was saddened that his play caused the rest of the team the chance to go further in the playoffs. You think Bills fans blame their defense for not getting off the field in the super bowl? Allowing the Giants to have over 40 minutes of time of possession. No, they blame Scott Norwood for missing a difficult field goal. Fans is short for fanatics.. |
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Post by jaymas on Apr 2, 2020 12:50:55 GMT -5
I thought it was potentially a great team. The Philly comeback ruined everything. One distinct thing I remember (and this is not an excuse) Eli had like 7 or 8 of those tipped. Still too many ints, but he showed a lot of what transpired in 2011, during the 2010 season. We were crushing Philly, on a three game win streak and playing well, on our way to an 11-5 or 12-4 season and the playoffs. Went from an inside track on a 2 seed to out of the dance in one game. Because there was no way we were competing with GB that week after the Philly debacle (GB ended up winning the SB). Team was totally deflated.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 2, 2020 12:55:27 GMT -5
So what? A head coach who is on thin ice with his job should not get angry at one of his players for not doing their job? Coughlin- “ I’ve never been around anything like this in my life, It’s about as empty as you get to feel in this business, right there.""I’ll take full responsibility for the last play. With (Jackson) back there, you don’t punt the ball to him."So even after the game Coughlin like he always does took full responsibility for the play. I think him going off was justified and warranted. It’s football, not hop scotch. Dodge has been on record that he understood Coughlins frustration and even stated that Coughlin was one of his biggest supporters that year. That punt was fumbled, Jackson ran thru the whole team and what did Dodge have to do with blowing a huge fourth quarter lead at home to a division rival? Did he tip into Kenny Phillips when he waved at the WR that ran right past him to start the whole ball rolling? In spite of it all, I think one of Coughlin’s greatest coaching achievements was off the heels of that loss. Most teams close their window with a loss like that. The very next year the Giants won SB 46. And I’ll say it again. So what? Head coaches ripping players have been done since the days of leather helmets. Now, they can’t do that. It’s give them positive feedback and rub their shoulders. It was a bad punt, call it for what it was. Dodge didn’t lose the game, his play was just one of many that cost us the game. |
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Post by JoeyCush on Apr 2, 2020 13:34:33 GMT -5
The response I made was in response to Dodge being scapegoated. In spite of what Coughlin said after the game, to the fans who watched, he ripped into Dodge. That punt was fumbled, Jackson ran thru the whole team and what did Dodge have to do with blowing a huge fourth quarter lead at home to a division rival? Did he tip into Kenny Phillips when he waved at the WR that ran right past him to start the whole ball rolling? In spite of it all, I think one of Coughlin’s greatest coaching achievements was off the heels of that loss. Most teams close their window with a loss like that. The very next year the Giants won SB 46. And I’ll say it again. So what? Head coaches ripping players have been done since the days of leather helmets. Now, they can’t do that. It’s give them positive feedback and rub their shoulders. It was a bad punt, call it for what it was. Dodge didn’t lose the game, his play was just one of many that cost us the game. My issue with Coughlin in that situation was it felt like one of those "This is fine, this is fine" moments until it wasnt. Between the Celek catch and score, the onside kick and the Vick run to score, Coughlin just seemed like everything was okay. Reminds me of the Beckham incident in Carolina to some degree. God that "surprise" onside kick still eats at me. Under 8 to go, down 14, you dont think theres a slight chance? Ugh. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Apr 2, 2020 14:02:50 GMT -5
Matt Dodge was unfairly scapegoated by the Giants and our fans. He got all of the heat when the TEAM was the one that blew that late 21 point lead. So you feel the same way about Trey Junkin then right? I know I do. |
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Post by nick030567 on Apr 2, 2020 17:03:46 GMT -5
Some things that really stand out to me about this season.
I think it was the last regular season where they really felt like a dangerous team for the majority of the season. In 2011 the Defense was so bad that many people thought they'd be lucky to finish above 500.
1. It was exciting to see the team play so well after the 2009 collapse. They came out week one looking really good from what I recall.
2. In the season opener it felt great to have Fewell because the defense looked excited and from what i remember the DL played really well.
It didn't take long for Fewell to show a maddening trend that persisted his entire tenure. Fewell rarely ever stuck with what worked. He's a coverage guy. So he typically believes you should live and die by the four man rush.I do think schematically 2010 was his best regular season. But anyway I remember Fewell would have one game where they played aggressive coverage and the D would play fantastically. Then the next week he'd roll out a soft coverage scheme and the defense would look terrible.
I think if they still had Spagnuolo that defense would have been better than the 2008 team. But Fewell did okay.
3. A lot of Eli's picks were tipped balls. A very odd amount. I remember there were videos highlighting it at the time. Had a really good year aside from that
4. Osi had his 10 forced fumbles and had a great year as a pass rusher. It felt great to have him back. It was also probably the last regular season where Tuck was really relentless. He had a good year in 2013 too but I still think he was more ferocious pre-2011. Aside from the postseason of course.
5. Jacobs had a great bounce back season
6. Jon Goff played really well and looked like he would become a good successor to Pierce. Another good Reese pick lost to injury.
7. Nicks broke out big.
8. Terrell Thomas was a heated debate topic. Remember how much people either loved or hated him? I personally thought he was overrated.
9. Certain players on the OL started to physically deteriorate. I remember Diehl having some bad games as well as O'Hara. Still way better than anything they've had since!
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Post by SG88 on Apr 8, 2020 12:49:44 GMT -5
FS1 is showing the Giants and Eagles game tonight. It is actually a really great watch for the first 3 quarters.
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Post by SG88 on Apr 8, 2020 12:52:29 GMT -5
I thought it was potentially a great team. The Philly comeback ruined everything. One distinct thing I remember (and this is not an excuse) Eli had like 7 or 8 of those tipped. Still too many ints, but he showed a lot of what transpired in 2011, during the 2010 season. We were crushing Philly, on a three game win streak and playing well, on our way to an 11-5 or 12-4 season and the playoffs. Went from an inside track on a 2 seed to out of the dance in one game. Because there was no way we were competing with GB that week after the Philly debacle (GB ended up winning the SB). Team was totally deflated. There was no way the Giants were beating Green Bay the following week after a loss like that. The eagles loss was the equivalent of getting a bare knuckle punch to your temple by Mike Tyson in his prime. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Apr 8, 2020 18:03:47 GMT -5
Matt Dodge was unfairly scapegoated by the Giants and our fans. He got all of the heat when the TEAM was the one that blew that late 21 point lead. So you feel the same way about Trey Junkin then right? I feel Junkins mistake was much worse. It would be the equivalent of Dodge fumbling the snap and the Eagles picking it up and scoring. Dodge still got a booming kick off. It even was miffed by Jackson. The STs coverage team broke down when they still should have stopped him. |
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Post by nick030567 on Apr 11, 2020 20:24:28 GMT -5
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