Wirfs Story From Ranaan

[TCHOF]

In his combine podcast, Jordan Ranaan talked about going to the local YMCA in Indianapolis to play pickup basketball during some downtime.  While he was there, he ran into Wirfs who was trying to sneak in an extra workout.

Says a lot about the kid ....

[giantlegacy]

if he fails its not going to be from lack of effort

Seems there might be some trends pointing in his direction as well...those with the best records the last few mocks have been taking him with the 4th

As someone who has had Wirfs on my radar since Oct id be happy with this pick

[BigBlueDog42]

Apr 10, 2020 13:00:19 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

In his combine podcast, Jordan Ranaan talked about going to the local YMCA in Indianapolis to play pickup basketball during some downtime.  While he was there, he ran into Wirfs who was trying to sneak in an extra workout.

Says a lot about the kid ....

As I have said a Wills is my guy but I don't think you could be upset with Wirfs kid with some good coaching is gonna be really good.

[Deleted]

Apr 10, 2020 13:00:19 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

In his combine podcast, Jordan Ranaan talked about going to the local YMCA in Indianapolis to play pickup basketball during some downtime.  While he was there, he ran into Wirfs who was trying to sneak in an extra workout.

Says a lot about the kid ....

Nobody works harder then a wrestler, not even close...fatigue makes cowards of us all...not a wrestler

This was the loss...tells how hard he worked to come back from being pinned to champion 

[bringsimmsback]

Apr 10, 2020 13:26:00 GMT -5 Aris said:

Apr 10, 2020 13:00:19 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

In his combine podcast, Jordan Ranaan talked about going to the local YMCA in Indianapolis to play pickup basketball during some downtime.  While he was there, he ran into Wirfs who was trying to sneak in an extra workout.

Says a lot about the kid ....

Nobody works harder then a wrestler, not even close...fatigue makes cowards of us all...not a wrestler

This was the loss...tells how hard he worked to come back from being pinned to champion 

As a former wrestler who often got pinned, I agree.

I wanna see this guys movement skills used on a sweep.

[Fletch842]

while my preference is with Thomas, I'd be totally ok if we selected Wirfs or Wills for that matter. I trust the Giants analysis of these guys more than my own!!

[TCHOF]

Apr 10, 2020 13:26:00 GMT -5 Aris said:

Apr 10, 2020 13:00:19 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

In his combine podcast, Jordan Ranaan talked about going to the local YMCA in Indianapolis to play pickup basketball during some downtime.  While he was there, he ran into Wirfs who was trying to sneak in an extra workout.

Says a lot about the kid ....

Nobody works harder then a wrestler, not even close...fatigue makes cowards of us all...not a wrestler

This was the loss...tells how hard he worked to come back from being pinned to champion 

I am a former wrestler and current wrestling coach (town rec league).

Give me a whole team full of former wrestlers please ….

[bringsimmsback]

Apr 10, 2020 14:53:09 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

Apr 10, 2020 13:26:00 GMT -5 Aris said:

Nobody works harder then a wrestler, not even close...fatigue makes cowards of us all...not a wrestler

This was the loss...tells how hard he worked to come back from being pinned to champion 

I am a former wrestler and current wrestling coach (town rec league).

Give me a whole team full of former wrestlers please ….

I knew I liked you TCOH, despite occasional dickishness. I thought it was your avatar, now I know what the real reason is

[IrishMike]

Apr 10, 2020 14:53:09 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

I am a former wrestler and current wrestling coach (town rec league).

Give me a whole team full of former wrestlers please ….

I bet my team of football players will beat your team lol.

Wirfs certainly looks like the real deal. Going to be interesting to see what order these guys come off the board.

[TCHOF]

Apr 10, 2020 15:00:03 GMT -5 bringsimmsback said:

Apr 10, 2020 14:53:09 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

I am a former wrestler and current wrestling coach (town rec league).

Give me a whole team full of former wrestlers please ….

I knew I liked you TCOH, despite occasional dickishness. I thought it was your avatar, now I know what the real reason is

"Occasional dickishness" … lol

That is funny and accurate!

[bringsimmsback]

Apr 10, 2020 15:03:44 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

Apr 10, 2020 15:00:03 GMT -5 bringsimmsback said:

I knew I liked you TCOH, despite occasional dickishness. I thought it was your avatar, now I know what the real reason is

"Occasional dickishness" … lol

That is funny and accurate!

And who am I kidding? I said "despite" when I probably meant "because."

[Deleted]

Apr 10, 2020 14:53:09 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

Apr 10, 2020 13:26:00 GMT -5 Aris said:

Nobody works harder then a wrestler, not even close...fatigue makes cowards of us all...not a wrestler

This was the loss...tells how hard he worked to come back from being pinned to champion 

I am a former wrestler and current wrestling coach (town rec league).

Give me a whole team full of former wrestlers please ….

You wrestled Tony?

I better be nice to you. 

I wrestled as well...football and baseball too...but I will let you answer this one as I would only be googling the answer

I know this year the center who did not declare from the Sooners was a state champ I believe. Jon Jones was a great wrestler, UFC...2 brothers play in the NFL, Chander one of them...maybe they wrestled as well? 

Okay I am cheating now

www.calgrappler.com/nfl-players-that-wrestled/

Question should be, what players did not wrestle. Wow.

California

Alex Mack, Cleveland Browns (San Marcos HS) – CA State Runer-Up in 2004
George Achica, Baltimore Colts (Andrew Hill HS) – CA State Champion in `78 & 3rd State in `79
James Campen*, C, Green Bay Packers (Ponderosa HS) – CA 2nd State in `81 & 6th State in `82
Jim Plunkett*, QB, Oakland Raiders (James Lick HS)
Kyle DeVan, OL, Indianapolis Colts (Vacaville HS) – CA State Champion in 2003 & 3rd in 2002
Lorenzo Neal, FB, Tennessee Titans (Lemoore HS) – 7th at NCAA, CA State Champion in 1989
Ronnie Lott**, DB, San Francisco 49’ers (Eisenhower HS)
Stephen Neal, OL, New England Patriots (San Diego HS) – 2X NCAA Champion, 1999 World Champion
Tedy Bruschi*, ILB, New England Patriots (Roseville HS)
Tommy Vardell, Chicago Bears (Granite Hills HS) 5th State in 1987
Tyler Clutts*, FB, Dallas Cowboys (Clovis HS) – CA State Champion in 2003

Kyle DeVan
Kyle DeVan – Vacaville HS, 2X CIF State Champion

Stephen Neal
Stephen Neal – San Diego HS

All States

Aaron Maybin, DE – Buffalo Bills – 4th State
Adam Seward, ILB – Carolina Panthers – NV State Champ
Adam Vinatieri*, K – New England Patriots
Alex Karras, Detroit Lions
Alex Lewis – District Champ
Alex Stepanovich
Andy Janovich, FB – Denver Broncos – 2X NE State Champion
Andrew “Tyler” Lenda – District Champ
Andrew Crummy – Cincinatti Bengals
Andrew Tidwell-Neal – MN State Champ
Antoineo Harris – IL State Champ
Antonio Garay, DL, Chicago Bears – State Champ
Archie Griffin, HB, Cincinnati Bengals
Art Baker, RB, Buffalo Bills
Benjamin Claxton – GA State Finalist
Bill Fralic*, G, Atlanta Falcons
Bill Szott, OL, Washington Redskins – NJ State Champ
Bo Jackson*, RB, Oakland Raiders
Bob Bruenig*, LB, Dallas Cowboys
Bob Golic*, DT, Cleveland Browns – OH State Champ
Bob Pickens, OL, Chicago Bears
Brad Benson, New York Giants – PA State Champ
Brad St. Louis, TE, Cincinnati Bengals
Brandon Pearce, Arizona Cardinals
Brian Save
Bruce Smith**, DE, Washington Redskins
Bryant McKinnie, T. Minnesota Vikings
Carl Edwards, San Diego Chargers – 3x MD State Champ
Carlton Haselrig*, Pittsburgh Steelers, 3x NCAA Champ
Chad Hennings, DT, Dallas Cowboys – IA State Champ
Charles White*, HB, Los Angeles Rams
Charlie Getty, RG, Kansas City Chiefs – 2x NCAA All-American
Chris Cooley, TE, Washington Redskins
Chris Laskowski
Chris McIntosh, T, Seattle Seahawks
Chris Pressley, Cincinatti Bengals
Chuck Noll, Pittsburgh Steelers – PA State Champ. 
Claude Harriott
Clinton “C.J.” Brooks, Jr.
Cody Johnson
Colin Cole, Seattle Seahawks
Corey Hulsy, G, Oakland Raiders
Cory Schlesinger, LB, Detroit Lions – NE State Champ
Cory Widmer, LB, New York Giants
Coy Wire, LB, Buffalo Bills – PA State Runner-Up
Coy Wire, SS, Buffalo Bills – PA State Champ
Curley Culp*, DL, Kansas City Chiefs – NCAA Champ
Dahanie Jones, LB, Cincinatti Bengals
Damien Covington, LB, Buffalo Bills
Dan Dierdorff**, OT, St. Louis Cardinals
Darien Gordon, PR/CB, Denver Broncos
Dave Joyner, OL, Green Bay Packers
Dave Porter, T, Green Bay Packers
Dave Szott, Kansas City Chiefs – NJ State Champ
David Patten, WR, New England Patriots
David Pollack
DeMarco Farr, St. Louis Rams
Donnie Edwards, OLB, San Diego Chargers
Doug France*, LT, Los Angeles Rams – OH State Runner-Up






Ed Flanagan, C, Detroit Lions
Eric Bateman, OL, New York Jets
Eric Ghiaciuc, C, Cincinatti Bengals – MI State Champ
Eric Rhett, RB, Cleveland Browns – FL State Champ
Erik Robertson, San Diego Chargers
Ernie Ladd, DL, Kansas City Chiefs
Flozell Adams, DE, Dallas Cowboys
Frank Garcia, C, St. Louis Rams – 2x AZ State Champ
Fred Smerlas*, Buffalo Bills – MA State Champ
Fred Weary, C, Houston Texans – AL State Champ
Gabe Watson, Arizona Cardinals
Gerald McRatha – Tennesee Titans
Greg Boone, RB, Oakland Raiders
Greg Meisner, DL, Los Angeles Rams
Greg Wojochowski, St. Louis Rams
Gregory Walker – State Finalist
Harris Benton
Harvey Dahl, Rams – 2x NV State Champ
Henry Jordan**, DT, Green Bay Packers
Irv Pankey, Los Angeles Rams – 2x MD State Champ
Jace Billingsley, Lions – 4X NV State Champ
James Mungro, HB, Indianapolis Colts
Jay Hilgenberg*, C, Chicago Bears – IA State Runner-Up
Jeff Bostic*, C, Washington Redskins – SC State Champ
Jeremy Newberry, C, San Francisco 49’ers
Jess Lewis, LB, Houston Oilers
Jim Everett, QB, New Orleans Saints
Jim Nance, FB, New England Patriots – NCAA Champ
Jim Thorpe**, HB, New York Giants. 
Joel Mackavicka, RB, Seattle Seahawks
Joey Hildbold
John Gilmore, TE, Chicago Bears
John Hannah**, G, New England Patriots
John Hartunian
John Jackson, T, Pittsburg Steelers
John Jurkovich*, DT, Cleveland Browns
John Ward, OL, New York Jets – NCAA All-American
Jonathan Condo, LS, Dallas Cowboys – PA State Champ, Dapper Dan Champ
Jonathan Condo
Jonathan Ogden*, OT, Baltimore Ravens
Josh Mauga, Chiefs – 3x NV State Champ
Josh Minkins – District Runner-up
Kelly Gregg, NT, Baltimore Ravens, 3x OK State Champ
Kevin Atkins
Kevin Breedlove – SC State Finalist
Kevin Glover*, C, Detroit Lions
Kevin Sampson – NJ State Champ
Kirk Lowdermilk*, OL, Minnesota Vikings
Kyle Turley*, T, St. Louis Rams






La’Roi Glover*, DE, Dallas Cowboys
Larod Stephens-Howling – Arizona Cardinals
Larry Czonka**, RB, Miami Dolphins
Larry Turner
Leo Nomellini*, T, San Francisco 49’ers – Big 10 Champ
Leo Wisniewski, NT, Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts – PA State Champ
Leon Robinson – GA State Runner-Up
Lincoln “Drew” Hodgdon, C, Houston Texans – CA State Champ
Luis Castillo, DT, San Diego Chargers (First Round Pick)
Mario Johnson, DT, New England Patriot
Mark McDonald, SS, Arizona Cardinals
Mark Schlereth*, OL, Washington Redskins – Alaska State Champ
Marques Harris – CO State Champ
Matt Millen*, LB, Oakland Raiders
Matt Roth – IA State Champ
Matt Suhey, RB, Chicago Bears
Mickey Marvin, RG, Oakland Raiders
Mike Goff, G, Cincinnati Bengals
Mike Golic, DE, Philadelphia Eagles
Mike Malczyk, LS, New York Giants
Mike Patterson, DT, Philadelphia Eagles (First Round Pick)
Mike Pyle, C, Chicago Bears – IA State Champ
Mike Reid, Cincinnati Bengals
Mike Trgovac, DC, Carolina Panthers – OH State Champ
Morgan Pears
Morlon Greenwood, OLB, Miami Dolphins
Napolean McCallum, RB, Oakland Raiders
Nick Griesen, LB, New York Giants
Nick Hardwick – San Diego Chargers
Nick Harper, CB, Tennesee Titans
Nick Leckey – TX State Champ
Nick Lecky, C, – KS State Champ (in 2004 NFL Draft)
Nick Newton
Orlando Huff, MLB, Seattle Seahawks






Patrick “Bucky” Babcock – IL State Champ
Patrick Flannery, OL, Houston Oilers
Patrick Kearney, DE, Atlanta Falcons
Phil Bryant, Philadelphia Eagles – 2x National Prep Champ
Ralph Cindrich, Houston Oilers – PA State Runner-Up
Randall McDaniel*, G, Minnesota Vikings
Randy Grossman, TE, Pittsburgh Steelers
Randy White*, DT, Dallas Cowboys
Ray Lewis*, Baltimore Ravens – 2x FL State Champ 
Renaldo Works
Rhonde Barber, SS, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Ricky Williams*, RB, Miami Dolphins
Rob Davis, ST, Green Bay Packers
Rob Essink, Seattle Seahawks – NCAA DII Champ
Robert Quinn, DT, St. Louis Rams – 3x SC State Champ
Rocky Rasley, G, Detroit Lions
Roddy White, WR, Atlanta Falcons – 2x SC State Champ (First Round Pick)
Rodney Leisle
Rodney Michael
Roger Craig*, RB, San Francisco 49’ers
Ron Heller, TE, Seattle Seahawks
Ronald Moore, RB, Cleveland Browns
Ronnie Brown, RB, Miami Dolphins (#2 Pick)
Ryan Binghom, Sand Diego Chargers – 2x State Champ
Ryan Turnbull, RB, Cleveland Browns
Scott McKillop – San Francisco 49’ers
Scott Peters, G, New York Giants
Scott Wells – TN State Champ
Scottie Graham, RB, Minnesota Vikings
Sean Mahan, G, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Sean Tufts
Shane Olivea
Steve Martin, DT, Houston Texans
Steve Sefter, DT, Philadelphia Eagles, 2x PA State Champ & NCAA All-American
Steve Wisniewski, G, Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders – State Champ
Tai Tupai
Terrance Taylor – Indianapolis Colts – State Champ
Terrell Fletcher, RB, San Diego Chargers
Tiki Barber, RB, New York Giants
Tim Anderson – OH State Champ
Tim Burrough – OK State Champ
Tim Euhus
Tim Green, DE, Atlanta Falcons
Tim Krumrie*, DL, Cincinnati Bengals – WI State Champ
Tom Cousineau*, LB, Cleveland Browns – 3rd State
Tom Covert*, OT, Chicago Bears
Tony Fiametta – Carolina Panthers
Tony Pape, San Diego Chargers
Tony Siragusa*, DT, Baltimore Ravens – NJ State Champ
Trevor Johnson
Walter Barnes, DL, Washington Redskins – SEC Champ
Warren Sapp*, DT Tampa Bay Buccaneers – FL State Champ
William George, Chicago Bears – 2x PA State Champ
William Hayes, Tennesee Titans
Willie Roaf*, OT, New Orleans Saints
Woody Thompson, RB, Atlanta Falcons – PA State Champ
Zachary Wilson

[Deleted]

Apr 10, 2020 15:00:03 GMT -5 bringsimmsback said:

Apr 10, 2020 14:53:09 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

I am a former wrestler and current wrestling coach (town rec league).

Give me a whole team full of former wrestlers please ….

I knew I liked you TCOH, despite occasional dickishness. I thought it was your avatar, now I know what the real reason is

[ThatGuyRich]

Apr 10, 2020 13:00:19 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

In his combine podcast, Jordan Ranaan talked about going to the local YMCA in Indianapolis to play pickup basketball during some downtime.  While he was there, he ran into Wirfs who was trying to sneak in an extra workout.

Says a lot about the kid ....

There really isn't anything to dislike about Wirfs. But there is that one pesky little tidbit that keeps surfacing.

In these mocks and some talking heads keep saying that Wirfs could transition to Guard instead of OT. Are you afraid were drafting a Guard instead of a Tackle ? We need an OT this year and one next year. And one of them need to be a LT.

With 3 other OT's supposedly earmarked for pro bowl type player wouldn't you think it be more prudent to draft one of these 3 ? It's the only thing holding me back from endorsing him over the others.

Have you heard or read this also ?

[Deleted]

Apr 10, 2020 15:59:14 GMT -5 ThatGuyRich said:

Apr 10, 2020 13:00:19 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

In his combine podcast, Jordan Ranaan talked about going to the local YMCA in Indianapolis to play pickup basketball during some downtime.  While he was there, he ran into Wirfs who was trying to sneak in an extra workout.

Says a lot about the kid ....

There really isn't anything to dislike about Wirfs. But there is that one pesky little tidbit that keeps surfacing.

In these mocks and some talking heads keep saying that Wirfs could transition to Guard instead of OT. Are you afraid were drafting a Guard instead of a Tackle ? We need an OT this year and one next year. And one of them need to be a LT.

With 3 other OT's supposedly earmarked for pro bowl type player wouldn't you think it be more prudent to draft one of these 3 ? It's the only thing holding me back from endorsing him over the others.

Have you heard or read this also ?

That's because his technique is THAT bad...google up all 22 and Wirfs. His feet are quick, but they sometimes go the wrong way...gets lost on passing blocks off and becomes a magnet on his one block...Penn State vs Wirfs is about as ugly a blocking game I have seen from a top OL prospect...

But on the same scouts chatter...has the potential to be...Jason Peters?

[lexington11]

Apr 10, 2020 13:00:19 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

In his combine podcast, Jordan Ranaan talked about going to the local YMCA in Indianapolis to play pickup basketball during some downtime.  While he was there, he ran into Wirfs who was trying to sneak in an extra workout.

Says a lot about the kid ....

workouts are great, but they need a stud LT. I worry that wirfs has hit the wall in terms of upside, and he has a lot of mileage on that body.

[lexington11]

Apr 10, 2020 16:21:20 GMT -5 Aris said:

Apr 10, 2020 15:59:14 GMT -5 ThatGuyRich said:

There really isn't anything to dislike about Wirfs. But there is that one pesky little tidbit that keeps surfacing.

In these mocks and some talking heads keep saying that Wirfs could transition to Guard instead of OT. Are you afraid were drafting a Guard instead of a Tackle ? We need an OT this year and one next year. And one of them need to be a LT.

With 3 other OT's supposedly earmarked for pro bowl type player wouldn't you think it be more prudent to draft one of these 3 ? It's the only thing holding me back from endorsing him over the others.

Have you heard or read this also ?

That's because his technique is THAT bad...google up all 22 and Wirfs. His feet are quick, but they sometimes go the wrong way...gets lost on passing blocks off and becomes a magnet on his one block...Penn State vs Wirfs is about as ugly a blocking game I have seen from a top OL prospect...

But on the same scouts chatter...has the potential to be...Jason Peters?

this is very important,,you would think a kid who has started as a freshman would have that all worked out.

[GameTime]

well he's a top three OT of course he puts in the work.

I'll be cool with Wills, Thomas , or Wirfs

[Fletch842]

Apr 10, 2020 15:59:14 GMT -5 ThatGuyRich said:

Apr 10, 2020 13:00:19 GMT -5 TCHOF said:

In his combine podcast, Jordan Ranaan talked about going to the local YMCA in Indianapolis to play pickup basketball during some downtime.  While he was there, he ran into Wirfs who was trying to sneak in an extra workout.

Says a lot about the kid ....

There really isn't anything to dislike about Wirfs. But there is that one pesky little tidbit that keeps surfacing.

In these mocks and some talking heads keep saying that Wirfs could transition to Guard instead of OT. Are you afraid were drafting a Guard instead of a Tackle ? We need an OT this year and one next year. And one of them need to be a LT.

With 3 other OT's supposedly earmarked for pro bowl type player wouldn't you think it be more prudent to draft one of these 3 ? It's the only thing holding me back from endorsing him over the others.

Have you heard or read this also ?

I thought most of the talk of him transitioning to guard disappeared after his combine performance.  he looked legit there.

[ThatGuyRich]

Apr 10, 2020 16:21:20 GMT -5 Aris said:

Apr 10, 2020 15:59:14 GMT -5 ThatGuyRich said:

There really isn't anything to dislike about Wirfs. But there is that one pesky little tidbit that keeps surfacing.

In these mocks and some talking heads keep saying that Wirfs could transition to Guard instead of OT. Are you afraid were drafting a Guard instead of a Tackle ? We need an OT this year and one next year. And one of them need to be a LT.

With 3 other OT's supposedly earmarked for pro bowl type player wouldn't you think it be more prudent to draft one of these 3 ? It's the only thing holding me back from endorsing him over the others.

Have you heard or read this also ?

That's because his technique is THAT bad...google up all 22 and Wirfs. His feet are quick, but they sometimes go the wrong way...gets lost on passing blocks off and becomes a magnet on his one block...Penn State vs Wirfs is about as ugly a blocking game I have seen from a top OL prospect...

But on the same scouts chatter...has the potential to be...Jason Peters?

This does make me nervous about him and in 4 years why wasn't this fixed ? Unless he was so much better than the competition he wouldn't listen or take it that serious. Which could be a red flag if true also.

Now if he is anywhere near Jason Peters we'll live with whatever faults he has. But that would be the best LT we've had since Rosey Brown 60 years ago. But in a year where were in position to grab 4 OT's of great potential why not take the most finished prospect ? Cause whoever we take I'm assuming is the Day 1 starter. I am thinking OT over Simmons.

My first choice was Andrew Thomas. He's gone full circle in these mocks from 1st to 4th. Well maybe he's back on top again. Haven't heard much about Wills in the last week or 2.

I think it's between these 3 not Becton. No real facts just my take. 

[Deleted]

If we do take a Fab 4 that’s going to be a pretty decent right side with Zeitler as RG. Could be very nasty line if we go Tackle in 1st and Center in 2nd. Something we haven’t had in a long long time