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Post by IrishMike on Apr 17, 2020 20:48:47 GMT -5
Agree it actually sounds like Gettlemen is feeling the heat to get OL right so they can see Jones and SQBs full potential. I think it is a possibility the he throws multiple picks at the OL a couple high and one of those 7ths. Could be smoke but it sure sounds like he is feeling the pressure and he has been known to throw lots of assets at one position if it is a weak link. I think DG sounds exactly like he did from day 1 of arriving here. He knew from the start that fixing the OL was the top priority (maybe #2 behind finding the QB of the future). Regardless of what he does in round 1 I think Dave will continue to try and fix the OL. Year 1 he signed the top LT in free agency and drafted an OG in the 2nd round. Year 2 he traded for one of the top RGs in the league and signed a short term answer at RT. Year 3 he has signed a short term answer at RT and with any luck will spent some high-mid draft picks on OTs and a Center.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 17, 2020 20:56:33 GMT -5
Agree it actually sounds like Gettlemen is feeling the heat to get OL right so they can see Jones and SQBs full potential. I think it is a possibility the he throws multiple picks at the OL a couple high and one of those 7ths. Could be smoke but it sure sounds like he is feeling the pressure and he has been known to throw lots of assets at one position if it is a weak link. I think DG sounds exactly like he did from day 1 of arriving here. He knew from the start that fixing the OL was the top priority (maybe #2 behind finding the QB of the future). Regardless of what he does in round 1 I think Dave will continue to try and fix the OL. Year 1 he signed the top LT in free agency and drafted an OG in the 2nd round. Year 2 he traded for one of the top RGs in the league and signed a short term answer at RT. Year 3 he has signed a short term answer at RT and with any luck will spent some high-mid draft picks on OTs and a Center. Today on his conference call he said he is feeling the pressure to get it done. Less then a week we will know whether it is smoke or if he is feeling it I would say he is feeling it he needs to get Jones and Barkely what they need that is holes and protection other wise he will be looking for work.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 17, 2020 21:04:39 GMT -5
I think DG sounds exactly like he did from day 1 of arriving here. He knew from the start that fixing the OL was the top priority (maybe #2 behind finding the QB of the future). Regardless of what he does in round 1 I think Dave will continue to try and fix the OL. Year 1 he signed the top LT in free agency and drafted an OG in the 2nd round. Year 2 he traded for one of the top RGs in the league and signed a short term answer at RT. Year 3 he has signed a short term answer at RT and with any luck will spent some high-mid draft picks on OTs and a Center. Today on his conference call he said he is feeling the pressure to get it done. Less then a week we will know whether it is smoke or if he is feeling it I would say he is feeling it he needs to get Jones and Barkely what they need that is holes and protection other wise he will be looking for work. And in his very first press conference he said "We've got to fix the offensive line, let's not kid each other,". Dave knows why he was brought in and has been working on the OL. I think he will continue to in the draft.
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Post by GameTime on Apr 17, 2020 21:19:34 GMT -5
IMO....having a marque type player in Simmons or one of the top 4 LTs is too much to pass up. If they do trade back I think they make sure they can still get a top LT. So not too far back. Agree it actually sounds like Gettlemen is feeling the heat to get OL right so they can see Jones and SQBs full potential. I think it is a possibility the he throws multiple picks at the OL a couple high and one of those 7ths. Could be smoke but it sure sounds like he is feeling the pressure and he has been known to throw lots of assets at one position if it is a weak link. at least three of the picks will be OL
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Post by GameTime on Apr 17, 2020 21:24:25 GMT -5
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Post by giantlegacy on Apr 17, 2020 21:29:26 GMT -5
My guess it was some OTC supplements as was trying to lose weight
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Post by GameTime on Apr 17, 2020 21:32:43 GMT -5
My guess it was some OTC supplements as was trying to lose weight I assume all the teams will be privy to that information
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Post by jb456 on Apr 17, 2020 21:34:35 GMT -5
My guess it was some OTC supplements as was trying to lose weight Still probably first round but may have pushed himself out of the top 10. He never failed a test in college do may be an isolated incident...
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Post by OrangeGiant on Apr 17, 2020 21:45:28 GMT -5
I don't know why anyone puts any credence in anything that is "reported" before the draft. I don't believe anything I read or hear about which way they are leaning, if they will trade back,blah blah blah.
Who knows what they are thinking. To me DG seems like the kind of guy that if he is really enamored with someone (ie Saquon, DJ) he is going to pull the trigger on him if he is available. He isn't going to trade back if he really believes in someone. It isn't his history at least....
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 17, 2020 21:51:04 GMT -5
Does anyone have a video of Becton smoking pot in a gas mask? If we release it now maybe we can push in down to pick 36 lol.
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Post by TCHOF on Apr 18, 2020 8:22:31 GMT -5
Does anyone have a video of Becton smoking pot in a gas mask? If we release it now maybe we can push in down to pick 36 lol. Imagine a dude that big with the munchies? Dude could wipe out an entire McDonald's by himself.
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Post by fifthavephil on Apr 18, 2020 8:51:01 GMT -5
Does anyone have a video of Becton smoking pot in a gas mask? If we release it now maybe we can push in down to pick 36 lol. With, shelter in place. It’s possible Becton balloon up to 400lbs. How, about posting a pic ( similar to Fat Albert ) that may drop him, in the second round.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 18, 2020 9:09:21 GMT -5
Does anyone have a video of Becton smoking pot in a gas mask? If we release it now maybe we can push in down to pick 36 lol. So lets say Becton falls a little(round#2) ,would the Giants getting Simmons and then Becton be a bad thing? He's not dropping to the second round. I never saw him in the top-10, he'll go somewhere in the middle of the first round.
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Post by Eazy E on Apr 18, 2020 9:12:28 GMT -5
Young or Simmons is the way to go at 4. But if Getty doesnt get a phone call, what about forcing the phone call. Draft Tua of Herbert at #4 and see who comes calling. Force their hand. Wont be the first time thats happened in a draft.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 18, 2020 9:19:28 GMT -5
Does anyone have a video of Becton smoking pot in a gas mask? If we release it now maybe we can push in down to pick 36 lol. So lets say Becton falls a little(round#2) ,would the Giants getting Simmons and then Becton be a bad thing? Sadly we won't know how far he is falling until after our pick. I doubt he actually falls to round two but I don't care who I take at 4 if Becton is there at 36 I'm taking him lol.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 18, 2020 9:20:44 GMT -5
Young or Simmons is the way to go at 4. But if Getty doesnt get a phone call, what about forcing the phone call. Draft Tua of Herbert at #4 and see who comes calling. Force their hand. Wont be the first time thats happened in a draft. Dude that would take tremendous balls. I think the Chargers were the only ones that did that and it was because Eli said he wants to play for us and we said we want him lol. If no one calls I'm taking the best player on the board and moving on with the draft.
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Post by TEM on Apr 18, 2020 9:32:46 GMT -5
Young or Simmons is the way to go at 4. But if Getty doesnt get a phone call, what about forcing the phone call. Draft Tua of Herbert at #4 and see who comes calling. Force their hand. Wont be the first time thats happened in a draft. You are going to hedge a Draft Pick? Do you not see the inherent problem with that? Looking at it from the opposition GM's point of view. The further away from the first round I wait . The cheaper that QB I want to trade for becomes.
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Post by GameTime on Apr 18, 2020 9:38:32 GMT -5
Young or Simmons is the way to go at 4. But if Getty doesnt get a phone call, what about forcing the phone call. Draft Tua of Herbert at #4 and see who comes calling. Force their hand. Wont be the first time thats happened in a draft. would have to be a predetermined thing with another team. To do it and wait for a "call" is foolish IMO
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 18, 2020 9:55:50 GMT -5
I like what DG said. Very logical and truthful to me.
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Post by snyder55 on Apr 18, 2020 10:01:27 GMT -5
Makes sense. Get a deal in place with the teams that might want to move up. When draft day comes it's easy. At least that should work for round 1, but I'm doubting we trade back at this point. I think these QB needy teams will see what comes to them. Also I am pretty sure that is not how you use the word consummate...unless part of the trade deal is having sex with the other GM to make it official lol. All in all I am very excited about the draft. They will get a potentially great player either way at 4 or and the possibility of trade too. we may not get the player I want but we will undoubtedly get a very good player.
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Post by snyder55 on Apr 18, 2020 10:03:51 GMT -5
Agree it actually sounds like Gettlemen is feeling the heat to get OL right so they can see Jones and SQBs full potential. I think it is a possibility the he throws multiple picks at the OL a couple high and one of those 7ths. Could be smoke but it sure sounds like he is feeling the pressure and he has been known to throw lots of assets at one position if it is a weak link. I think DG sounds exactly like he did from day 1 of arriving here. He knew from the start that fixing the OL was the top priority (maybe #2 behind finding the QB of the future). Regardless of what he does in round 1 I think Dave will continue to try and fix the OL. Year 1 he signed the top LT in free agency and drafted an OG in the 2nd round. Year 2 he traded for one of the top RGs in the league and signed a short term answer at RT. Year 3 he has signed a short term answer at RT and with any luck will spent some high-mid draft picks on OTs and a Center. I may be wrong about this but I have the feeling that the O tackles available in round 1 might not be the best talent and that we should get an impact player and look for our O tackle after round1.
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Post by Eazy E on Apr 18, 2020 10:15:47 GMT -5
This has become a show me now league. Some GMs are not in a position to see what happens 3-5 years down the road. Maybe their draft is set on getting Tua or Herbert or Love. The QB is the most important position in the game. Im not saying I would make this move. I wouldnt wait for a second on either Simmons or Chase. It definitely would add some drama to the draft. There are teams in the top ten that absolutely need a QB. Im just throwing it out there.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 18, 2020 10:18:31 GMT -5
Hopefully this time we get some fair offers.
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Post by Eazy E on Apr 18, 2020 10:22:48 GMT -5
What about the current situation? Are colleges gonna play next season? Im hearing the LA mayor wants to shut down gatherings through the year and the state might follow through out here in Cali. That could also mean that the college football season could be in jeapardy for the NCAA with added pressure. If that happens then whats gonna happen to next years NFL draft. A GM has to be prepared for that. I mean it sounds ridiculous but I never thought Id ever see this country in a pandemic lockdown situation.
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Post by JoeyCush on Apr 18, 2020 10:27:06 GMT -5
I really feel like Giants should try and trade out of 4 but not out of top 10. Try and grab Simmons early and accumulate picks.
Then, get into cahoots with Becton and his camp and hire a bunch of police officers for Becton to get into a fight with while calling them racial slurs while wearing a pot gas mask and have it all recorded on a phone and anomalously release the footage before the draft starts so he falls deep only for DG to trade back up into the first and grab Becton making for the greatest heist in NFL draft history.
DG sacrifices himself so the Giants can reign supreme.
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 18, 2020 10:47:56 GMT -5
I really feel like Giants should try and trade out of 4 but not out of top 10. Try and grab Simmons early and accumulate picks. Then, get into cahoots with Becton and his camp and hire a bunch of police officers for Becton to get into a fight with while calling them racial slurs while wearing a pot gas mask and have it all recorded on a phone and anomalously release the footage before the draft starts so he falls deep only for DG to trade back up into the first and grab Becton making for the greatest heist in NFL draft history. DG sacrifices himself so the Giants can reign supreme. if only they were that sneaky. It's not like their Jerry Jones!!!
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Post by JoeyCush on Apr 18, 2020 10:50:50 GMT -5
I really feel like Giants should try and trade out of 4 but not out of top 10. Try and grab Simmons early and accumulate picks. Then, get into cahoots with Becton and his camp and hire a bunch of police officers for Becton to get into a fight with while calling them racial slurs while wearing a pot gas mask and have it all recorded on a phone and anomalously release the footage before the draft starts so he falls deep only for DG to trade back up into the first and grab Becton making for the greatest heist in NFL draft history. DG sacrifices himself so the Giants can reign supreme. if only they were that sneaky. It's not like their Jerry Jones!!!
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Post by GameTime on Apr 18, 2020 10:51:57 GMT -5
All in all I am very excited about the draft. They will get a potentially great player either way at 4 or and the possibility of trade too. we may not get the player I want but we will undoubtedly get a very good player. yep...I feel the same
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