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Post by TEM on Apr 20, 2020 8:43:26 GMT -5
If we draft Brown. Williams will be untagged or Thomlinson will be dealt. Although he would likely be a superior player on a rookie contract, I just cannot fathom the team passing on other positions of dire need this draft. The current defensive front seems like the strongest unit on either side of the ball. Even with the limited sacks, and do even the best 3-4 DTs really consistently generate a significant number of these? We do not have the Cap space to sign Thomlinson Peppers and Williams .We are already in the top 10in the league in Offensive Line cap expenditures. We are not going to let Peppers walk. One of our D line is going to walk. Brown insures the D-line is locked up for the next 4 to 5 seasons
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Post by bluejayc on Apr 20, 2020 9:07:02 GMT -5
Although he would likely be a superior player on a rookie contract, I just cannot fathom the team passing on other positions of dire need this draft. The current defensive front seems like the strongest unit on either side of the ball. Even with the limited sacks, and do even the best 3-4 DTs really consistently generate a significant number of these? We do not have the Cap space to sign Thomlinson Peppers and Williams .We are already in the top 10in the league in Offensive Line cap expenditures. We are not going to let Peppers walk. One of our D line is going to walk. Brown insures the D-line is locked up for the next 4 to 5 seasons I'm hoping the Giants come to their senses and let Williams walk.....I'm not saying he's not a good player but I am saying he's not worth the $$$$ he's been tagged for.
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Post by TEM on Apr 20, 2020 9:10:25 GMT -5
We do not have the Cap space to sign Thomlinson Peppers and Williams .We are already in the top 10in the league in Offensive Line cap expenditures. We are not going to let Peppers walk. One of our D line is going to walk. Brown insures the D-line is locked up for the next 4 to 5 seasons I'm hoping the Giants come to their senses and let Williams walk.....I'm not saying he's not a good player but I am saying he's not worth the $$$$ he's been tagged for. If we draft Brown. The tag may be removed. If I were Williams I would be reading the tea leaves and signing the tender before the draft.
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 20, 2020 9:11:56 GMT -5
I'm hoping the Giants come to their senses and let Williams walk.....I'm not saying he's not a good player but I am saying he's not worth the $$$$ he's been tagged for. If we draft Brown. The tag may be removed. If I were Williams I would be reading the tea leaves and signing the tender before the draft. If we draft Brown, I'll cry, literally. Unless we trade down, get a 2nd 1st round pick and take him further down the draft, and I don't think he drops out of top 10, so that is not going to happen.
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Post by TEM on Apr 20, 2020 9:28:05 GMT -5
If we draft Brown. The tag may be removed. If I were Williams I would be reading the tea leaves and signing the tender before the draft. If we draft Brown, I'll cry, literally. Unless we trade down, get a 2nd 1st round pick and take him further down the draft, and I don't think he drops out of top 10, so that is not going to happen. Do not count him out . Brown is a possibility. Believe me I would prefer OL with the first two picks. The model I made predicts otherwise. Models can be wrong. Just look at how wrong the Covid predicters were inaccurate. But this year I am goin with science to do my mock not passion. As I said I am going to be a draft hero or draft zero by my own hand not what some self-proclaimed draft expert states what the FO will do.
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Post by jimmieray on Apr 20, 2020 10:35:59 GMT -5
If we draft Brown. The tag may be removed. If I were Williams I would be reading the tea leaves and signing the tender before the draft. If we draft Brown, I'll cry, literally. Unless we trade down, get a 2nd 1st round pick and take him further down the draft, and I don't think he drops out of top 10, so that is not going to happen. It just seems unfathomable to again use very high draft capital on yet another DT, after spending ridiculous cap money on Harrison, and we're running a 3-4 defense besides all that.
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Post by jimmieray on Apr 20, 2020 10:40:46 GMT -5
Although he would likely be a superior player on a rookie contract, I just cannot fathom the team passing on other positions of dire need this draft. The current defensive front seems like the strongest unit on either side of the ball. Even with the limited sacks, and do even the best 3-4 DTs really consistently generate a significant number of these? We do not have the Cap space to sign Thomlinson Peppers and Williams .We are already in the top 10in the league in Offensive Line cap expenditures. We are not going to let Peppers walk. One of our D line is going to walk. Brown insures the D-line is locked up for the next 4 to 5 seasons This upcoming season? I know it comes close, and you want to have a bit of reserve going into the season. We still don't know what they are offering Williams, or how it will be structured. I thought maybe if this draft is heavy on offensive personnel, they could dump Tate or even Solder.
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Post by TEM on Apr 20, 2020 10:46:27 GMT -5
We do not have the Cap space to sign Thomlinson Peppers and Williams .We are already in the top 10in the league in Offensive Line cap expenditures. We are not going to let Peppers walk. One of our D line is going to walk. Brown insures the D-line is locked up for the next 4 to 5 seasons This upcoming season? I know it comes close, and you want to have a bit of reserve going into the season. We still don't know what they are offering Williams, or how it will be structured. I thought maybe if this draft is heavy on offensive personnel, they could dump Tate or even Solder. Tate maybe . WRs are expendable. I am not sure about Solder. Risky you can end up with a lot worse.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 20, 2020 11:07:35 GMT -5
I doubt we re sign Tomlinson. Now this being a different regime we haven't re signed a DT run stopper or NT after their rookie contract in the last 12-16 years.
You never know but you can pick up his replacement even this year in the mid rds if you wish, or you get him next year. We used to spend our 2nd rd pick on the big run stopper when each guys contract was up. If we ever were going keep someone that Linville Joseph blew up in our face. I personally like Big John Hankins.
But we'll see, it's a new regime.
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Post by Kase1 on Apr 20, 2020 15:18:29 GMT -5
if we do t re-sign him looks like we would be drafting a NT in 2021
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