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Post by Morehead State on Sept 4, 2018 22:31:19 GMT -5
I appreciate that. This MB has been a vast improvement so far from the old boards. And we have to nip nonsense in the bud so it doesn't spiral out of control like it did on the old MB. We're all in this together. It has nothing to do with being sensitive, or soft or whatever foolishness folks might claim when they are lashing out. It's about making this a good place to talk about our team without being called all kinds of names for stating your view honestly and in good faith.
If a few folks don't understand that, then this may not be the place for them. Fortunately, the vast majority do get it.
Wow. "This MB has been a vast improvement so far from the old boards....If a few folks don't understand that, then this may not be the place for them." Fortunately, the vast majority do get it." Really? Yeah it's actually been great. This place was hopping even before camp started. Unpleasantness has been kept at a minimum. I'm pretty happy with it so far. you don't agree?
And your repost completely changes the context of my post.
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Post by SemperFi on Sept 4, 2018 22:48:20 GMT -5
You pontificate so beautifully. But its a message board, not a prayer meeting. Come back to earth, son. When you take your head out of your behind, you occasionally are reasonably insightful.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 23:37:53 GMT -5
You pontificate so beautifully. But its a message board, not a prayer meeting. Come back to earth, son. When you take your head out of your behind, you occasionally are reasonably insightful. Exhibit A. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 5:56:24 GMT -5
Why do people assume Webb>Tanney?
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 5, 2018 6:27:16 GMT -5
Why do people assume Webb>Tanney? Because we have eyes. |
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Post by jaymas on Sept 5, 2018 8:26:13 GMT -5
Why do people assume Webb>Tanney? Because we have eyes. This. :-X |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 8:43:32 GMT -5
Why do people assume Webb>Tanney? Because we have eyes. And what have you seen from Webb that makes him better? His high throws? The late throws? |
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 5, 2018 8:48:42 GMT -5
And what have you seen from Webb that makes him better? His high throws? The late throws? His mobility. His arm strength. His good touch downfield. his ability to drop passes over defenders to name a few.
I have said that I like Lauletta's game right now better than Webb. But both are young and have untapped upside. Both have to learn still and develop.
To quit on this kid for a terrible 6 year veteran who has never done anything but collect a paycheck, suggests ulterior motives by those in power to me. You are obviously free to disagree.
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Post by BronxBomberBlue on Sept 5, 2018 8:51:31 GMT -5
Why do people assume Webb>Tanney? Webb's ceiling had the potential to go higher because of his age. Tanney's ceiling is pretty much touching the top of his head. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 8:54:41 GMT -5
Why do people assume Webb>Tanney? Webb's ceiling had the potential to go higher because of his age. Tanney's ceiling is pretty much touching the top of his head. Not disagreeing but it appears the Giants will work on one project at the time. Tanney is just there to hold a clipboard since Eli is playing another 48-64 games straight. |
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Post by Merc on Sept 5, 2018 9:58:26 GMT -5
Webb is a Jet
He's a Jet all the way
From his first cigarette
To his last dying day
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Post by Speedman on Sept 5, 2018 10:09:53 GMT -5
And what have you seen from Webb that makes him better? His high throws? The late throws? His mobility. His arm strength. His good touch downfield. his ability to drop passes over defenders to name a few.
I have said that I like Lauletta's game right now better than Webb. But both are young and have untapped upside. Both have to learn still and develop.
To quit on this kid for a terrible 6 year veteran who has never done anything but collect a paycheck, suggests ulterior motives by those in power to me. You are obviously free to disagree.
Ulterior motives equals professional suicide. |
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Post by Roswell on Sept 5, 2018 10:17:45 GMT -5
And what have you seen from Webb that makes him better? His high throws? The late throws? His mobility. His arm strength. His good touch downfield. his ability to drop passes over defenders to name a few.
I have said that I like Lauletta's game right now better than Webb. But both are young and have untapped upside. Both have to learn still and develop.
To quit on this kid for a terrible 6 year veteran who has never done anything but collect a paycheck, suggests ulterior motives by those in power to me. You are obviously free to disagree.
Agreed. And it’s not like fans have had to choose Webb or choose Lauletta. Personally, at this point, as much as I wanted Webb to be given more of a chance, I hope Lauletta turns out to be the greatest QB in Giants history. I certainly am not going to root against a young guy just to feel somehow vindicated. |
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 5, 2018 11:13:57 GMT -5
His mobility. His arm strength. His good touch downfield. his ability to drop passes over defenders to name a few.
I have said that I like Lauletta's game right now better than Webb. But both are young and have untapped upside. Both have to learn still and develop.
To quit on this kid for a terrible 6 year veteran who has never done anything but collect a paycheck, suggests ulterior motives by those in power to me. You are obviously free to disagree.
Ulterior motives equals professional suicide. Could be. |
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Post by Nullusion on Sept 5, 2018 16:37:04 GMT -5
At least he doesn't have to pick up and move.
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Post by Jomo on Sept 6, 2018 17:37:05 GMT -5
And what have you seen from Webb that makes him better? His high throws? The late throws? His mobility. His arm strength. His good touch downfield. his ability to drop passes over defenders to name a few.
I have said that I like Lauletta's game right now better than Webb. But both are young and have untapped upside. Both have to learn still and develop.
To quit on this kid for a terrible 6 year veteran who has never done anything but collect a paycheck, suggests ulterior motives by those in power to me. You are obviously free to disagree.
Totally agree, he does things physically that few other young QBs are able to do. Not sure wtf is going on in the front office to be honest. I understand that a HC might feel that there is only room for one developmental QB and he chose Lauletta. I might disagree but that is his choice. In keeping one developmental guy you are clearly saying that the other guy has to be the veteran backup guy who can run a mistake free offense for a few games and perhaps win a couple of them. How they can conclude that that guy is Alex F. Tanney boggles this simple man's mind. |
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Post by giantsalmon on Sept 6, 2018 19:07:01 GMT -5
His mobility. His arm strength. His good touch downfield. his ability to drop passes over defenders to name a few.
I have said that I like Lauletta's game right now better than Webb. But both are young and have untapped upside. Both have to learn still and develop.
To quit on this kid for a terrible 6 year veteran who has never done anything but collect a paycheck, suggests ulterior motives by those in power to me. You are obviously free to disagree.
Agreed. And it’s not like fans have had to choose Webb or choose Lauletta. Personally, at this point, as much as I wanted Webb to be given more of a chance, I hope Lauletta turns out to be the greatest QB in Giants history. I certainly am not going to root against a young guy just to feel somehow vindicated. This is where I'm at. I truly felt Webb was going to be the guy, big arm to take advantage of the weaponry without the huge price tag initially. Sure was nice to see NY Giants QB execute a QB sneak successfully. Now that its Lauletta to be developed I will pull for him to be great and hopefully the successor. For now I will be in Eli's corner to bring the Giants back to relevance. |
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Post by ocgiant on Sept 6, 2018 19:45:18 GMT -5
Webb deserves an opportunity, kind of tough to criticize a kid "who was drafted by the Giants" and comes right into one of the worst situations you could imagine as a rookie trying to prove his worth as a 3rd Round pick to develop for the future instead there is no focus on him. Now with the season a disaster what risk was there to have put him in to see what potential you have for the future. I don't buy Webb was not ready to play yet...
So now Lauletta is another unknown whereas Webb at least had a year with the Giants system under his belt who improved in training camp (to some degree). Just seems like they gave up too early on Webb because it was a Reese pick and was purged. Another wasted 3rd round draft pick...
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Post by coughlinscorner on Sept 7, 2018 13:29:39 GMT -5
The old football adage is you can't teach accuracy. You enter the NFL as an accurate thrower or not. Hence the great hesitation leading up to the draft about Josh Allen. Davis Webb is not an accurate QB, Kyle Lauletta is. In Shurmur's offense you can't succeed if not an accurate passer.
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 7, 2018 14:00:16 GMT -5
The old football adage is you can't teach accuracy. You enter the NFL as an accurate thrower or not. Hence the great hesitation leading up to the draft about Josh Allen. Davis Webb is not an accurate QB, Kyle Lauletta is. In Shurmur's offense you can't succeed if not an accurate passer. That's an adage?
There are many things you can do to improve accuracy. Most of them have to do with mechanics.
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Post by Roswell on Sept 7, 2018 17:23:41 GMT -5
The old football adage is you can't teach accuracy. You enter the NFL as an accurate thrower or not. Hence the great hesitation leading up to the draft about Josh Allen. Davis Webb is not an accurate QB, Kyle Lauletta is. In Shurmur's offense you can't succeed if not an accurate passer. I think it’s “You can’t teach speed.” Accuracy you probably can teach with proper technique. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 17:51:57 GMT -5
Not agreeing with the Barkley pick = wanting Barkley to fail Don’t forget the ever popular “= you’re not a Giants fan” and “= you want to see the Giants fail” also |
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Post by Jomo on Sept 7, 2018 17:55:24 GMT -5
The old football adage is you can't teach accuracy. You enter the NFL as an accurate thrower or not. Hence the great hesitation leading up to the draft about Josh Allen. Davis Webb is not an accurate QB, Kyle Lauletta is. In Shurmur's offense you can't succeed if not an accurate passer. I think it’s “You can’t teach speed.” Accuracy you probably can teach with proper technique. I don't have a professional opinion (I am not an NFL coach  ) but I heard Tex Schram one night on Sirius NFL radio say that accuracy is the most elusive thing for coaches to teach. He said he's never seen one progress from good to great as a pro. He said that the only one he could remember that made a decent move forward was Boomer Esiason but even there, he never completely shed his inaccurate tendency. I am just reporting here on what I heard that night on a long ride home from NYC from a guy who should know and I respect. |
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Post by Roswell on Sept 7, 2018 18:08:39 GMT -5
I think it’s “You can’t teach speed.” Accuracy you probably can teach with proper technique. I don't have a professional opinion (I am not an NFL coach ) but I heard Tex Schram one night on Sirius NFL radio say that accuracy is the most elusive thing for coaches to teach. He said he's never seen one progress from good to great as a pro. He said that the only one he could remember that made a decent move forward was Boomer Esiason but even there, he never completely shed his inaccurate tendency. I am just reporting here on what I heard that night on a long ride home from NYC from a guy who should know and I respect. Today I learned something from my friend Jomo. 😃 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 20:32:05 GMT -5
It's all the "we shoulda drafted a QB #1" haters ragging on the kid. Now Lauletta is their prime target to rag on. I for one hope Webb gets a shot at being a starter for some team. Jets better hope Darnold ain't made a glass. Stop it. What the heck is a "We shoulda drafted a QB #1 hater?". That is a foolish reference. Are you suggesting that if a fan believes it would have been wiser to draft Josh Rosen or Sam Darnold, they are somehow a "hater?" What twisted logic could point to that conclusion?
It’s his type of posts that really derail topics and rational discourse. I’ve been caught up in the mess he creates today. |
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) but I heard Tex Schram one night on Sirius NFL radio say that accuracy is the most elusive thing for coaches to teach.