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Post by geogogo on May 14, 2020 18:57:43 GMT -5
Of course the internet has rushed to judgment before knowing any of the facts. Guilty until proven innocent I guess..... It might have something to do with his sleeping thru meetings as a rookie. He was given a second chance and a clean slate with the new staff. This is what he does with it. Clean out the trash sooner than later.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 18:58:37 GMT -5
Probably best to wait on this because it sounds so senseless. I had serious issues with his game, him dogging it, and learning he wasn’t working hard at his craft. You’re shocked that an NFL player is a Perp? Come on Man
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Post by DJones19 on May 14, 2020 18:59:12 GMT -5
So nice to know that DG is geared into changing the culture on this team because you know we had to get rid of ODB and JPP because of how terrible they are. Wow... Great job doing your homework on this one Dave. All the talent and no brains. sorry guys....two way off base comments regarding Baker's alleged actions and Gentlemen not being able to predict the future. I thought the comment was too complementary of Baker. He stunk on the field too.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on May 14, 2020 19:00:10 GMT -5
Of course the internet has rushed to judgment before knowing any of the facts. Guilty until proven innocent I guess..... It might have something to do with his sleeping thru meetings as a rookie. He was given a second chance and a clean slate with the new staff. This is what he does with it. Clean out the trash sooner than later. I’ve slept through nuclear trainIngs. Probably more important than film sessions. Am I going to commit armed robbery? Thanks for the most senseless correlation of all time.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 19:00:53 GMT -5
I am in Law Enforcement so I know a little more than most. A warrant wouldn’t be issued without significant evidence. If they just wanted to question him about what happened that would be one thing. They issued a warrant which means they have probable cause to arrest
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 14, 2020 19:00:55 GMT -5
Honestly this is so damn frustrating.
One step forward, 2 steps back.
People keep pounding the table on these drafts by Gettleman. I keep saying we need a few years to really know of they are any good or not.
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Post by bluejayc on May 14, 2020 19:01:27 GMT -5
So nice to know that DG is geared into changing the culture on this team because you know we had to get rid of ODB and JPP because of how terrible they are. Wow... Great job doing your homework on this one Dave. All the talent and no brains. sorry guys....two way off base comments regarding Baker's alleged actions and Gentlemen not being able to predict the future. You can slam the pick for multiple on the field and off the field football reasons no need to knock DG for not having a Magic 8 ball. As best as I could tell the kids past was relatively clean. I’m not overly upset at this. Had he crushed it last year maybe but his poor play and questionable professionalism have me thinking better now then midseason. CBA probably allows the Giants to recoup his salary for Cap purposes. The real loss is the picks from last year. 2nd, 4th and 5th rounders. If there’s any solace it’s that the DB’s are probably the deepest position group on the team.
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Post by Kruunch on May 14, 2020 19:01:39 GMT -5
Probably the 2 richest guys at the party. It makes no sense for them to do that.. Did it make sense when Nate Newton wanted to be Pablo Escobar? After having a very successful career? Or how about Aaron Hernandez after signing a big contract thinking that “murder” was an option? I can go on and on. These guys are super talented egotistical morons. They think they can do what they want when they want with whomever they want. Rules don’t abide to them.. Or, it’s just easier to call him an idiot. If it’s true of course..
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Post by SG88 on May 14, 2020 19:03:46 GMT -5
Of course the internet has rushed to judgment before knowing any of the facts. Guilty until proven innocent I guess..... It might have something to do with his sleeping thru meetings as a rookie. He was given a second chance and a clean slate with the new staff. This is what he does with it. Clean out the trash sooner than later. That makes absolutely no sense. Regardless of what you think of the player, he is still innocent until proven guilty.
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Post by GameTime on May 14, 2020 19:04:15 GMT -5
sorry guys....two way off base comments regarding Baker's alleged actions and Gentlemen not being able to predict the future. DG knows how to change the culture by getting rid of the problems and bringing players of “high” moral character and he’s given us words to that effect. go find some previous stuff on Baker then you can say DG messed up the pick from a character stand point. Until then put away the crystal ball.
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Post by giantlegacy on May 14, 2020 19:07:17 GMT -5
It might have something to do with his sleeping thru meetings as a rookie. He was given a second chance and a clean slate with the new staff. This is what he does with it. Clean out the trash sooner than later. I’ve slept through nuclear trainIngs. Probably more important than film sessions. Am I going to commit armed robbery? Thanks for the most senseless correlation of all time. Give it an hour The hot takes have just started
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Post by TCHOF on May 14, 2020 19:08:32 GMT -5
DG knows how to change the culture by getting rid of the problems and bringing players of “high” moral character and he’s given us words to that effect. go find some previous stuff on Baker then you can say DG messed up the pick from a character stand point. Until then put away the crystal ball. Bad combine interviews and teams thought that he didn’t work hard to get ready for the combine. Red flags right there
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Post by allnygin on May 14, 2020 19:10:45 GMT -5
lmao. Honestly, I actually wondered how long it would be before he'd get into trouble. Usually, the conduct he was known to exhibit lack of interest in learning the play book, sleeping in pracice or other bad decisions work related not just in football is good indication of poor judgment. I'm not suprised if this is true.
Such a shame these guys have a chance to lead a nice comfortable life, wtf are you doing dumb shit like this for. Hopefully, fake news.
Edit: In no way do I pin this on Gettlemen. This is football every year tons of questionable ppl get drafted into the NFL. Not evelryone is Eli Manning with every job there is always risk, sometimes you weigh it less than what it actually turns out to be. It happens.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on May 14, 2020 19:10:57 GMT -5
I've hated his play from day one.
If this is true good riddance.
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 14, 2020 19:12:12 GMT -5
DG knows how to change the culture by getting rid of the problems and bringing players of “high” moral character and he’s given us words to that effect. go find some previous stuff on Baker then you can say DG messed up the pick from a character stand point. Until then put away the crystal ball. Like I said, watch the stories start coming out. There is a .0001% chance he was clean before this. You dont just go from being a top class shutdown corner in college to sleeping in meetings, being lazy on live plays, and robbing people with a gun. It will start leaking out. His play in college was top 10 draft pick type stuff. There is a reason he slipped.
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Post by JoeyCush on May 14, 2020 19:12:21 GMT -5
Apparently the two lost $70k a couple nights before and Im guessing, wanted their money back.
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Post by GameTime on May 14, 2020 19:12:26 GMT -5
go find some previous stuff on Baker then you can say DG messed up the pick from a character stand point. Until then put away the crystal ball. Bad combine interviews and teams thought that he didn’t work hard to get ready for the combine. Red flags right there I only read two and both as no red flags. You obviously found one that has red flags. With that said nothing you mentioned remotely says "criminal"
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Post by giantlegacy on May 14, 2020 19:12:27 GMT -5
I guess we get a look at Ballentine and Beal where they are best,outside corner
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Post by GameTime on May 14, 2020 19:13:29 GMT -5
go find some previous stuff on Baker then you can say DG messed up the pick from a character stand point. Until then put away the crystal ball. Like I said, watch the stories start coming out. There is a .0001% chance he was clean before this. You dont just go from being a top class shutdown corner in college to sleeping in meetings, being lazy on live plays, and robbing people with a gun. It will start leaking out. ok...stories may come out. Does that mean DG knew this kid may have criminal tendencies prior to the draft?
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 14, 2020 19:14:45 GMT -5
Eli Apple and DeAndre Baker.
Our last 2 1st round CBs...
Ugh
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Post by BlueReign on May 14, 2020 19:16:55 GMT -5
Let’s get some more information about this. Weird for him to rob people at a party he was part of. If true, he’s gotta go.
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Post by TCHOF on May 14, 2020 19:17:26 GMT -5
Probably best to wait on this because it sounds so senseless. I had serious issues with his game, him dogging it, and learning he wasn’t working hard at his craft. Completely agree. Let’s wait to see what’s true and what’s not, but if this is true, he’s gone .... Bet he wishes that he didn’t buy his Mom that car now ... could have used that money for legal fees
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Post by TEM on May 14, 2020 19:17:48 GMT -5
It makes no sense for them to do that.. Did it make sense when Nate Newton wanted to be Pablo Escobar? After having a very successful career? Or how about Aaron Hernandez after signing a big contract thinking that “murder” was an option? I can go on and on. These guys are super talented egotistical morons. They think they can do what they want when they want with whomever they want. Rules don’t abide to them.. Or, it’s just easier to call him an idiot. If it’s true of course.. If this is true. I am all for him being cut. Out of all the individuals at that party . Those 2 has the most to lose. I could see if the 2 of them engaged in this kind of behavior previously. I have to let the truth come out before I hold judgment.
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 14, 2020 19:17:53 GMT -5
Like I said, watch the stories start coming out. There is a .0001% chance he was clean before this. You dont just go from being a top class shutdown corner in college to sleeping in meetings, being lazy on live plays, and robbing people with a gun. It will start leaking out. ok...stories may come out. Does that mean DG knew this kid may have criminal tendencies prior to the draft? No. I said he needed to do homework and didnt. That's the point. His lazy GM style of not negotiating when he took Saquon showed me he isnt all about max effort on his picks. He took D Jones only after Shurmur beat the drum and opened his eyes. IMO he doesnt have the best track record on research. I'm just adding to my list of how he is failing as a GM.
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Post by GameTime on May 14, 2020 19:18:50 GMT -5
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Post by hadenough on May 14, 2020 19:19:32 GMT -5
Holy cow...that dude is going to jail
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Post by GameTime on May 14, 2020 19:20:55 GMT -5
ok...stories may come out. Does that mean DG knew this kid may have criminal tendencies prior to the draft? No. I said he needed to do homework and didnt. That's the point. His lazy GM style of not negotiating when he took Saquon showed me he isnt all about max effort on his picks. He took D Jones only after Shurmur beat the drum and opened his eyes. IMO he doesnt have the best track record on research. I'm just adding to my list of how he is failing as a GM. you are totally talking out of your butt. You have zero idea what DG knew prior to the draft about Baker's charterer to lead him to believe he would commit armed robbery.
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Post by GameTime on May 14, 2020 19:21:55 GMT -5
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Post by Merc on May 14, 2020 19:22:18 GMT -5
Good thing the Giants drafted a lot of CBs.
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Post by TCHOF on May 14, 2020 19:22:46 GMT -5
Keeps getting better .....
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