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Post by InDabsWeTrust on May 14, 2020 19:22:47 GMT -5
Logan Ryan come on down!
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Post by giantlegacy on May 14, 2020 19:23:28 GMT -5
Who the **** are these guys hanging with to be playing high stakes poker? Miami? This is the concerning thing,be thankful nobody was shot or worse
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Post by JoeyCush on May 14, 2020 19:24:22 GMT -5
I cant say I know much about these kinds of situations but when you are NFL stars, do you REALLY think you are going to get away with holding people up with a gun and robbing them for thousands of dollars?
I mean come on now.
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Post by GameTime on May 14, 2020 19:24:31 GMT -5
Who the **** are these guys hanging with to be playing high stakes poker? Miami? This is the concerning thing,be thankful nobody was shot or worse Jordan played golf for 50K a hole. The peeps didnt have to bad people just rich.
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Post by giantlegacy on May 14, 2020 19:24:49 GMT -5
No. I said he needed to do homework and didnt. That's the point. His lazy GM style of not negotiating when he took Saquon showed me he isnt all about max effort on his picks. He took D Jones only after Shurmur beat the drum and opened his eyes. IMO he doesnt have the best track record on research. I'm just adding to my list of how he is failing as a GM. you are totally talking out of your butt. You have zero idea what DG knew prior to the draft about Baker's charterer to lead him to believe he would commit armed robbery. Doesn't take much for the ..... won't use the word I usually use for the usual suspects to come out and in effect gloat over something bad happening because it fits a hot take narrative
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Post by lasion2 on May 14, 2020 19:25:44 GMT -5
This doesn’t pass the smell test. The two richest, most well known guests at the party randomly rob everybody, with no masks or anything? Sounds like some revenge, petty beef to me, gambling debts notwithstanding.
If true though; they may be the stupidest people in the world.
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Post by Kruunch on May 14, 2020 19:26:07 GMT -5
ok...stories may come out. Does that mean DG knew this kid may have criminal tendencies prior to the draft? No. I said he needed to do homework and didnt. That's the point. His lazy GM style of not negotiating when he took Saquon showed me he isnt all about max effort on his picks. He took D Jones only after Shurmur beat the drum and opened his eyes. IMO he doesnt have the best track record on research. I'm just adding to my list of how he is failing as a GM. No one hates Gettleman more than me, not even Steve Smith Sr or Deangelo Williams. But, this isn’t on Dave. A player that doesn’t pan out is on him, a bad free agent is on him. A player he drafted commits a crime is on the player. The blame lays solely at Bakers feet. We all look for people to blame, it’s human nature. Why did this happen? And who’s responsible? Even more in sports this happens. I’m guilty of it, we suck for years. And I want someone to pay for it.. Gettleman is a lot of things, not many good in my eyes. But this? Not even close..
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Post by giantlegacy on May 14, 2020 19:26:31 GMT -5
Who the **** are these guys hanging with to be playing high stakes poker? Miami? This is the concerning thing,be thankful nobody was shot or worse Jordan played golf for 50K a hole. The peeps didnt have to bad people just rich. For some reason I don't see people going batshit crazy losing money like this on a golf course... yet (its 2020 so who knows)
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Post by ThatGuyRich on May 14, 2020 19:30:05 GMT -5
From the TMZ article: Cops say Baker and Dunbar were allegedly hanging at a cookout -- playing cards and video games -- when an argument broke out and Baker whipped out a semi-automatic firearm. Cops say the men began to rob party guests ... with Dunbar assisting in taking watches and other valuables at the direction of Baker. At one point, cops say Baker directed a 3rd man -- who was wearing a red mask -- to shoot someone who had just walked into the party ... but fortunately, no one was actually shot. Holy shit Holy Shit is right. I can't believe this. Is this really true ?
If this is true....This man deserves to be barred from the league for life. He's a loser, I don't care why. He already has cashed a years salary of a !st rd pick. Plus any signing bonus. And ordered a man to be shot that just walked into the party..... Are You Kidding Me ! This is Mentally unstable people. He does not deserve any mercy. I don't know what's going on here and people might think I'm jumping the gun before I know all the facts but if this story is true you/me/we/anybody needs to run away from this man as fast as you can.
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Post by OrangeGiant on May 14, 2020 19:30:34 GMT -5
You seriously have to be kidding me. If this is true that's yet another wasted first round pick, and this one cost us multiple picks as well...
Why in God's name does he have to rob people for what amounts to petty cash for him...
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Post by giantlegacy on May 14, 2020 19:30:36 GMT -5
This doesn’t pass the smell test. The two richest, most well known guests at the party randomly rob everybody, with no masks or anything? Sounds like some revenge, petty beef to me, gambling debts notwithstanding. If true though; they may be the stupidest people in the world. Because this is fitting
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Post by desertash on May 14, 2020 19:31:35 GMT -5
if the kid did it, he's done not thinking at all
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Post by giantlegacy on May 14, 2020 19:34:23 GMT -5
Ehh...let the kids play...its a dead year anyway.. Just like WRs corner is going to be a very deep position every year and we will have close to 100 million to grab a final piece if another good one is out
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 19:40:38 GMT -5
ok...stories may come out. Does that mean DG knew this kid may have criminal tendencies prior to the draft? No. I said he needed to do homework and didnt. That's the point. His lazy GM style of not negotiating when he took Saquon showed me he isnt all about max effort on his picks. He took D Jones only after Shurmur beat the drum and opened his eyes. IMO he doesnt have the best track record on research. I'm just adding to my list of how he is failing as a GM. You crossed the line now brother. Saquon is going to be a Giant Great
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 14, 2020 19:44:25 GMT -5
No. I said he needed to do homework and didnt. That's the point. His lazy GM style of not negotiating when he took Saquon showed me he isnt all about max effort on his picks. He took D Jones only after Shurmur beat the drum and opened his eyes. IMO he doesnt have the best track record on research. I'm just adding to my list of how he is failing as a GM. You crossed the line now brother. Saquon is going to be a Giant Great He is a great Giant. Just not the right pick if we were trying to rebuild. Which we were.
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 14, 2020 19:46:11 GMT -5
What everyone is missing from the story, is the fact that,
HE OBVIOUSLY WASNT SOCIAL DISTANCING.
Not the night he pulled out his piece, and not the night he was gambling.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 19:46:30 GMT -5
This doesn’t pass the smell test. The two richest, most well known guests at the party randomly rob everybody, with no masks or anything? Sounds like some revenge, petty beef to me, gambling debts notwithstanding. If true though; they may be the stupidest people in the world. Like I said earlier if an arrest warrant is issued that means that police have probably cause to arrest. They wouldn’t issue that without substantial evidence. Actually it’s called believe or reasonably believe a crime has occurred. It’s not for questioning
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Post by giantlegacy on May 14, 2020 19:47:31 GMT -5
What everyone is missing from the story, is the fact that, HE OBVIOUSLY WASNT SOCIAL DISTANCING. Not the night he pulled out his piece, and not the night he was gambling. And Miami is one of tbe few spots in Fla that didn't open up yet..
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 14, 2020 19:48:24 GMT -5
If true he needs to be cut. yup they have plenty of corners it's a shame he has talent if this is true. He came with no baggage described as a quite kid.
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Post by TEM on May 14, 2020 19:49:54 GMT -5
If true he needs to be cut. yup they have plenty of corners it's a shame he has talent if this is true. He came with no baggage described as a quite kid. The facts have to come out.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 19:50:16 GMT -5
The dumbest thing about this is that they knew the people they robbed and the people knew them. How did they not think they would get caught? It’s absolutely mind blowing. Maybe they were on drugs because honestly you can’t be this dumb. They should be sitting in their huge houses studying the playbook not doing armed robberies. Why did he even have a sub machine gun?
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Post by Roosevelt on May 14, 2020 19:52:15 GMT -5
Of course the internet has rushed to judgment before knowing any of the facts. Guilty until proven innocent I guess.....
The facts are however that there was a warrant issued for his arrest, and the Giants have acknowledged their awareness and that they have spoken to him.
Sure sounds like he screwed up big-time.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 19:52:27 GMT -5
You crossed the line now brother. Saquon is going to be a Giant Great He is a great Giant. Just not the right pick if we were trying to rebuild. Which we were. I disagree. Rebuilding with a strong run game, a generational talent can never hurt a team.
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 14, 2020 19:54:43 GMT -5
He is a great Giant. Just not the right pick if we were trying to rebuild. Which we were. I disagree. Rebuilding with a strong run game, a generational talent can never hurt a team. Sure, take a great RB in the 2nd round if your team is awful. Not pick #2 overall with a heavily desired QB sitting there giving you leverage to trade back.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 14, 2020 19:56:05 GMT -5
sorry guys....two way off base comments regarding Baker's alleged actions and Gentlemen not being able to predict the future. DG knows how to change the culture by getting rid of the problems and bringing players of “high” moral character and he’s given us words to that effect. This kid had no issues in school hasn't had any thing like this maybe coming out of school and losing that structure didn't work for this kid but he had nothing that anyone new of. His college coach just was saying how much he loved him. These things do happen good thing he was the 3rd of 3 first rounders. Hate to lose him but if he did it they should suspend him without pay and cut him after the suspension is over.
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Post by Roosevelt on May 14, 2020 19:57:03 GMT -5
Probably best to wait on this because it sounds so senseless. I had serious issues with his game, him dogging it, and learning he wasn’t working hard at his craft. You’re shocked that an NFL player is a Perp? Come on Man No. I just wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt even though he's given me no reason to like him as a player.
But now that I read the reports, I'm sure as hell glad we drafted 2 CB's and signed Bradberry.
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Post by Roosevelt on May 14, 2020 20:01:03 GMT -5
Probably best to wait on this because it sounds so senseless. I had serious issues with his game, him dogging it, and learning he wasn’t working hard at his craft. Completely agree. Let’s wait to see what’s true and what’s not, but if this is true, he’s gone .... Bet he wishes that he didn’t buy his Mom that car now ... could have used that money for legal fees
There you go. I argued that car purchase was a clear sign of poor judgement to go along with his sleeping in meetings and now allegedly this.
This kid is just that. He didn't understand what he had. And while that's his issue, he has hurt this football team.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 14, 2020 20:02:18 GMT -5
you are totally talking out of your butt. You have zero idea what DG knew prior to the draft about Baker's charterer to lead him to believe he would commit armed robbery. Doesn't take much for the ..... won't use the word I usually use for the usual suspects to come out and in effect gloat over something bad happening because it fits a hot take narrative LOL now the insane clown posse is gonna start up because they had an issue with one draft pick. LOL Lazy even more funny that is one thing Gettlemen is not they worked hard to get in position to have 3 first rounders. No human can read the future this kid had no issues anyone new of except shutting down the best his conference in college had to offer.
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Post by TCHOF on May 14, 2020 20:03:15 GMT -5
Of course the internet has rushed to judgment before knowing any of the facts. Guilty until proven innocent I guess.....
The facts are however that there was a warrant issued for his arrest, and the Giants have acknowledge their awareness and that they have spoken to him.
Sure sounds like he screwed up big-time.
4 counts of armed robbery at 2 different parties. Unless this is a case of mistaken identity, this kid is in a world of trouble.
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Post by PennState1 on May 14, 2020 20:03:16 GMT -5
Eli Apple and DeAndre Baker. Our last 2 1st round CBs... Ugh And Prince before those guys! Why can’t the Giants get CB right?
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