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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 11:41:52 GMT -5
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 7, 2018 11:46:32 GMT -5
Giants still so shady about injuries even with new regime - claimed it was an ankle contusion not a high ankle sprain (that idiot Russ Salzberg was on BBKL explaining how the team was very clear about this distinction)
A day later, oh yeah, he has a high ankle sprain.
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Post by JPthePizz on Sept 7, 2018 11:50:27 GMT -5
Giants still so shady about injuries even with me regime - claimed it was an ankle contusion not a high ankle sprain (that idiot Russ Salzberg was on BBKL explaining how the team was very clear about this distinction) A day later, oh yeah, he has a high ankle sprain. Generally speaking, I don't think it's always the best idea to advertise to all your opponents what the injuries are, and how long people will be out.
Patriots used to list 60% of their team on the injury report for the entire season, without specifics.
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 7, 2018 11:55:00 GMT -5
Giants still so shady about injuries even with me regime - claimed it was an ankle contusion not a high ankle sprain (that idiot Russ Salzberg was on BBKL explaining how the team was very clear about this distinction) A day later, oh yeah, he has a high ankle sprain. Generally speaking, I don't think it's always the best idea to advertise to all your opponents what the injuries are, and how long people will be out.
Patriots used to list 60% of their team on the injury report for the entire season, without specifics.
In the preseason? Plus they affirmatively denied a high ankle sprain. Just a flat-out lie. Maybe it gives them some competitive advantage, but I find it irritating to be lied to as a fan. |
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Post by JPthePizz on Sept 7, 2018 11:56:53 GMT -5
Generally speaking, I don't think it's always the best idea to advertise to all your opponents what the injuries are, and how long people will be out.
Patriots used to list 60% of their team on the injury report for the entire season, without specifics.
In the preseason? Plus they affirmatively denied a high ankle sprain. Just a flat-out lie. Maybe it gives them some competitive advantage, but I find it irritating to be lied to as a fan. lol, I don't think you should take it personally. We don't have to know EVERY single thing. We're not part of the organization.
I want to know everything also, but...I can also see why they don't want everyone to know.
Being a pro athlete is like the only profession in the world where HIPA seems to be null and void. Any medical attention and the whole world finds out lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 12:10:01 GMT -5
Good thing our FO made sure we have an abundance of pass rushing options behind OV. Hopefully Carter maximizes his potential, he wasn't a very good or consistent pass rusher in college, despite his athleticism. You can never have enough pass rushers, right? |
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 7, 2018 12:16:00 GMT -5
it's probably a good thing to hold him out. Let the ankle heal a bit more before he starts to abuse it. If he comes back to early, it could effect him the entire season. Would rather miss him for the first few games, and have him 100% after that.
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Post by BigBlue58 on Sept 7, 2018 12:20:45 GMT -5
What a colossal waste of money Vernon has been!
85 million for a guy who gets hurt when the wind changes direction.
Only 12 games last year and now missing the 2018 opener.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 12:21:08 GMT -5
it's probably a good thing to hold him out. Let the ankle heal a bit more before he starts to abuse it. If he comes back to early, it could effect him the entire season. Would rather miss him for the first few games, and have him 100% after that. I would expect him to be hobbled all year. He will play but he will never be 100%. |
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Post by Parademon1 on Sept 7, 2018 12:23:36 GMT -5
Opportunity for Lorenzo Carter to shine. Guy has to take advantage of this & show the FO he could be OV' replacement next yr & for yrs to come.
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 7, 2018 12:33:12 GMT -5
Opportunity for Lorenzo Carter to shine. Guy has to take advantage of this & show the FO he could be OV' replacement next yr & for yrs to come. this would be the ideal scenario |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 12:35:28 GMT -5
Gee what a surprise ... this guy has been well worth 18 mil. a season huh? Reese's pieces just keep on giving. Hopefully he can still kneel for the anthem though..
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Sept 7, 2018 12:35:32 GMT -5
I guess we will see what the kid Carter can do.
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Post by hadenough on Sept 7, 2018 12:47:37 GMT -5
Oh boy...guess he'll under perform all year long. Hopefully, it's a 'mild' sprain and he'll recover sooner than later. Without him...I'm not sure the Giants have a pass rush.
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Post by desertash on Sept 7, 2018 13:17:27 GMT -5
Generally speaking, I don't think it's always the best idea to advertise to all your opponents what the injuries are, and how long people will be out.
Patriots used to list 60% of their team on the injury report for the entire season, without specifics.
In the preseason? Plus they affirmatively denied a high ankle sprain. Just a flat-out lie. Maybe it gives them some competitive advantage, but I find it irritating to be lied to as a fan. ^^ This Welp looks like we'll get a season of 50-75% OV again.
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Post by dvision on Sept 7, 2018 13:17:56 GMT -5
It's cool Carter and Barwin will show out
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 7, 2018 13:26:07 GMT -5
And to think back to the old boards when I got destroyed for not liking this signing. He wasnt ever a great DE/LB. Overpaid him completely. Wont be here next year.
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Post by BigBlue58 on Sept 7, 2018 13:32:06 GMT -5
And to think back to the old boards when I got destroyed for not liking this signing. He wasnt ever a great DE/LB. Overpaid him completely. Wont be here next year. I’m with you! I always said that he was overpaid. The guy barely managed double digit sacks with Suh gettin all the double teams for crying out loud!!! |
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Post by Nullusion on Sept 7, 2018 14:02:23 GMT -5
Between Carter and Barwin I think they can make enough noise to get by a game or two. It would be nice to have Vernon back for the Cowboys game though. Especially with the questions they have up front right now.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 7, 2018 14:13:53 GMT -5
This team is thin everywhere. Thinnest Ive seen in a long time. Any long term injuries will really hurt the season.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 7, 2018 14:20:11 GMT -5
Oh boy...guess he'll under perform all year long. Hopefully, it's a 'mild' sprain and he'll recover sooner than later. Without him...I'm not sure the Giants have a pass rush. Pass Rush ? Hopefully the blitz packages work cause I'm not relying on OV for any pass rush. Maybe once in his career he had double digit sacks he was fine as the 2nd tier pass rusher but to rely on Vernon as the main guy really concerns me a lot. And that's what it looks like to me.
But keeping him out if the ankle isn't ready I agree is the right way to go. Otherwise we can't maximize any of his talent. At this point I'll take 8 sacks and smile cause I don't see anything better. Lets hope for the best with the injury and the best season he has since being here.
Hopefully Carter performs better than I think and is ready earlier in the season rather than later.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2018 14:57:58 GMT -5
Would rather miss him for the first few games, and have him 100% after that. We could very well be 2-4 or 1-5 by the time he comes back. At that point it's all but a done season. I would expect him to be hobbled all year. He will play but he will never be 100%. This. Just like his first (?) year here. Hopefully, it's a 'mild' sprain and he'll recover sooner than later. I don't think there's anything mild about a high ankle sprain. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Sept 7, 2018 15:06:14 GMT -5
So umm.... What's Connor Barwin up to these days? Besides cashing checks?
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Post by theproblem on Sept 7, 2018 15:38:32 GMT -5
Well, hopefully Barwin plays well and Carter shows that he was a good draft pick.
It's the Giants defense with an injury, kind of use to it now.
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Post by bluejayc on Sept 7, 2018 15:58:55 GMT -5
Tae Davis is out?!?!?!?!?  Jokes aside the loss of OV as a run stopper/container hurts more so than the loss of his pass rushing abilities. Carter/Barwin may be able to equivalently fill in for him as a pass rusher but definitely not as a run stuffer. |
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Post by Jomo on Sept 7, 2018 16:06:32 GMT -5
And to think back to the old boards when I got destroyed for not liking this signing. He wasnt ever a great DE/LB. Overpaid him completely. Wont be here next year. I never blame a player for getting overpaid. Facts are fact however, he is not a great DL. We overpaid because we drafted so poorly for a very long period of time. When we don't find and develop young talent we have to overpay in FA and THAT is not a winning formula. The same happened on the OL where we overpaid Solder (and still have 3 holes there). He is an upgrade for sure but a highly overpaid one. |
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Post by EliQB10 on Sept 7, 2018 16:08:31 GMT -5
All that money but this guy can't stay on the field...SMH
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Post by Jomo on Sept 7, 2018 16:16:11 GMT -5
It reminds me of the last 4 years with our OL. When one was injured it didn't hurt that much because our starters weren't very good so the next guy up was very close. Same will be true with OV. I can't imagine that after our game on Sunday, anyone here will say that we really missed OV.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 7, 2018 16:16:31 GMT -5
All top FAs are over paid.
I like OV....plays hard all the time, plays nicked up, and produces. Always around the ball.
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Post by GameTime on Sept 7, 2018 16:18:50 GMT -5
All that money but this guy can't stay on the field...SMH ha has missed 4 games in his whole career. Now he will miss a few more. He is pretty much always on the field. |
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