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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 29, 2020 6:28:42 GMT -5
The Packers moved up to draft Jordan Love in the 1st round. You dont do that unless you think the guy can play, and normally in a year or 2. Cowboys after 2020 and Dak? Patriots after 2020 and Cam? Rodgers is still one of the best QBs in the land. So, it would suck for either of those 2 teams to get him. Aaron Rodgers foresees future split from the Packers after Jordan Love pick: 'Just look at the facts' "I think that's probably what happens, you know, based on the circumstances around everything," Rodgers told Brandt when asked whether Green Bay will ultimately decide to move on from him or keep 2020 first-round pick Jordan Love on the bench. "Just look at the facts. They traded up, they drafted him, obviously they like him, they wanna play him." Fresh off a trip to the NFC Championship, the 36-year-old Rodgers is technically under contract with Green Bay through 2023. But considering he expects to play into his 40s, he's aware the Packers will at some point be forced to pick between he and Love, who was taken 26th overall out of Utah State in April. "And I get it, I really do," he said. "I don't harbor any ill will about it. Like, was I bummed out? Of course. Who wouldn't be? I wanted to play my entire career in Green Bay. I loved the city. I grew up there ... But look, I get it. I see it completely clearly, and I'm not bitter about it. It just kind of is what it is." www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-foresees-future-split-from-the-packers-after-jordan-love-pick-just-look-at-the-facts/ |
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Post by jimmieray on Jul 29, 2020 6:58:20 GMT -5
I can't think of any other QB who has shown to be able to generate comebacks and win games pretty much all by himself, than Rodgers. I don't know how a team can be so confident they will find that attribute in any young player, regardless of the talent they show.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 29, 2020 8:45:24 GMT -5
Potential non news from the future!
Man, these sports editors must be driving their staffs crazy with this crap.
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Post by DandyDon on Jul 29, 2020 8:58:57 GMT -5
The Packers moved up to draft Jordan Love in the 1st round. You dont do that unless you think the guy can play, and normally in a year or 2. Cowboys after 2020 and Dak? Patriots after 2020 and Cam? Rodgers is still one of the best QBs in the land. So, it would suck for either of those 2 teams to get him. Aaron Rodgers foresees future split from the Packers after Jordan Love pick: 'Just look at the facts' "I think that's probably what happens, you know, based on the circumstances around everything," Rodgers told Brandt when asked whether Green Bay will ultimately decide to move on from him or keep 2020 first-round pick Jordan Love on the bench. "Just look at the facts. They traded up, they drafted him, obviously they like him, they wanna play him." Fresh off a trip to the NFC Championship, the 36-year-old Rodgers is technically under contract with Green Bay through 2023. But considering he expects to play into his 40s, he's aware the Packers will at some point be forced to pick between he and Love, who was taken 26th overall out of Utah State in April. "And I get it, I really do," he said. "I don't harbor any ill will about it. Like, was I bummed out? Of course. Who wouldn't be? I wanted to play my entire career in Green Bay. I loved the city. I grew up there ... But look, I get it. I see it completely clearly, and I'm not bitter about it. It just kind of is what it is." www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/aaron-rodgers-foresees-future-split-from-the-packers-after-jordan-love-pick-just-look-at-the-facts/I just read an article that claimed the pick made him drink tequila. sports.yahoo.com/aaron-rodgers-expects-packers-to-move-on-from-him-eventually-drank-tequila-when-jordan-love-was-drafted-190201010.html |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jul 29, 2020 9:05:37 GMT -5
Rodgers will not end up in Dallas..remember he forced their new current coach out
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Jul 29, 2020 10:13:25 GMT -5
AR grew up in GB (according to the quote attributed to him)?
He's a Cali guy.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 29, 2020 10:46:40 GMT -5
Rodgers will not end up in Dallas..remember he forced their new current coach out He's signed through 2023 which is means his contract probably becomes affordable and negotiable in 2022. So, it's easy then. Go write an article on which teams you think are going to be stacked on both sides of the ball and only need a top QB to put them over the top in 2022/2023, lol... |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 29, 2020 10:55:15 GMT -5
Rodgers will not end up in Dallas..remember he forced their new current coach out He's signed through 2023 which is means his contract probably becomes affordable and negotiable in 2022. So, it's easy then. Go write an article on which teams you think are going to be stacked on both sides of the ball and only need a top QB to put them over the top in 2022/2023, lol... So you dont think GB plays Love for another 3 years? |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 29, 2020 11:00:05 GMT -5
He's signed through 2023 which is means his contract probably becomes affordable and negotiable in 2022. So, it's easy then. Go write an article on which teams you think are going to be stacked on both sides of the ball and only need a top QB to put them over the top in 2022/2023, lol... So you dont think GB plays Love for another 3 years? Throwing out this season obviously as I think it is going to be a circus. I think he also sits next season. That puts you at 2022 where the contract becomes more liquid. What's he guaranteed over the next two years? Like $50MM? |
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Post by jimmieray on Jul 29, 2020 11:24:12 GMT -5
So you dont think GB plays Love for another 3 years? Throwing out this season obviously as I think it is going to be a circus. I think he also sits next season. That puts you at 2022 where the contract becomes more liquid. What's he guaranteed over the next two years? Like $50MM? Do you think the virus and predictions for this season possibly affected some teams' drafting decisions? |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 29, 2020 11:25:18 GMT -5
Throwing out this season obviously as I think it is going to be a circus. I think he also sits next season. That puts you at 2022 where the contract becomes more liquid. What's he guaranteed over the next two years? Like $50MM? Do you think the virus and predictions for this season possibly affected some teams' drafting decisions? Good question, I don't know. Although if I'm guessing I'd say no |
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Post by jimmieray on Jul 29, 2020 11:39:17 GMT -5
Do you think the virus and predictions for this season possibly affected some teams' drafting decisions? Good question, I don't know. Although if I'm guessing I'd say no Your post got me thinking, though. No way a GM would use that explanation, but it could have been a consideration. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 29, 2020 12:14:42 GMT -5
Throwing out this season obviously as I think it is going to be a circus. I think he also sits next season. That puts you at 2022 where the contract becomes more liquid. What's he guaranteed over the next two years? Like $50MM? Do you think the virus and predictions for this season possibly affected some teams' drafting decisions? Maybe. Thats a good point. But I doubt GB moved up for a QB to be an emergency Covid option. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 29, 2020 12:19:59 GMT -5
Do you think the virus and predictions for this season possibly affected some teams' drafting decisions? Maybe. Thats a good point. But I doubt GB moved up for a QB to be an emergency Covid option. Me too. I don't think covid has anything to do with it, I'm think they see the writing on the wall and are planning for it. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 29, 2020 12:23:31 GMT -5
Maybe. Thats a good point. But I doubt GB moved up for a QB to be an emergency Covid option. Me too. I don't think covid has anything to do with it, I'm think they see the writing on the wall and are planning for it. The best teams are... I wonder when Bill knew he was going to go after Cam. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 29, 2020 12:27:38 GMT -5
Me too. I don't think covid has anything to do with it, I'm think they see the writing on the wall and are planning for it. The best teams are... I wonder when Bill knew he was going to go after Cam. I think he waited out the market. I don't think he necessarily needed Cam I just think he sees him as a gap filler. |
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Post by jimmieray on Jul 29, 2020 12:33:36 GMT -5
Do you think the virus and predictions for this season possibly affected some teams' drafting decisions? Maybe. Thats a good point. But I doubt GB moved up for a QB to be an emergency Covid option. I was thinking after Sarc's post, maybe they figured if this season was a wash, the next possible franchise QB would need an extra season to develop. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 29, 2020 12:37:02 GMT -5
Maybe. Thats a good point. But I doubt GB moved up for a QB to be an emergency Covid option. I was thinking after Sarc's post, maybe they figured if this season was a wash, the next possible franchise QB would need an extra season to develop. Not sure they were thinking that though. Would they risk that? What if the season plays out? You could have gotten one of the best QBs to ever play the game a new weapon instead. And a better shot at a SB win. |
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Post by jimmieray on Jul 29, 2020 12:43:59 GMT -5
I was thinking after Sarc's post, maybe they figured if this season was a wash, the next possible franchise QB would need an extra season to develop. Not sure they were thinking that though. Would they risk that? What if the season plays out? You could have gotten one of the best QBs to ever play the game a new weapon instead. And a better shot at a SB win. Agreed, but I can't come up with any other rational reasoning. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 29, 2020 12:47:56 GMT -5
Not sure they were thinking that though. Would they risk that? What if the season plays out? You could have gotten one of the best QBs to ever play the game a new weapon instead. And a better shot at a SB win. Agreed, but I can't come up with any other rational reasoning. My personal belief is, GB, the front office, is tiring out on him for some reason. I dont know. Id gladly take him for a few years here though and sit DJ. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 29, 2020 12:47:57 GMT -5
I was thinking after Sarc's post, maybe they figured if this season was a wash, the next possible franchise QB would need an extra season to develop. Not sure they were thinking that though. Would they risk that? What if the season plays out? You could have gotten one of the best QBs to ever play the game a new weapon instead. And a better shot at a SB win. Maybe they figured one player wouldn't be enough |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 29, 2020 12:50:50 GMT -5
Agreed, but I can't come up with any other rational reasoning. My personal belief is, GB, the front office, is tiring out on him for some reason. I dont know. Id gladly take him for a few years here though and sit DJ. Maybe they're tired of him because he's organizational headache. And a coach killer. And a lot of hassle for not a lot of championships. I'd never sit Jones for him. He ain't taking this team anywhere. It still needs way too much. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 29, 2020 13:02:40 GMT -5
My personal belief is, GB, the front office, is tiring out on him for some reason. I dont know. Id gladly take him for a few years here though and sit DJ. Maybe they're tired of him because he's organizational headache. And a coach killer. And a lot of hassle for not a lot of championships. I'd never sit Jones for him. He ain't taking this team anywhere. It still needs way too much. Thats crazy talk. If we could have one year of Aaron Rodgers right now you take it. There is a less than 1% chance DJ is better right now. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 29, 2020 13:09:41 GMT -5
Maybe they're tired of him because he's organizational headache. And a coach killer. And a lot of hassle for not a lot of championships. I'd never sit Jones for him. He ain't taking this team anywhere. It still needs way too much. Thats crazy talk. If we could have one year of Aaron Rodgers right now you take it. There is a less than 1% chance DJ is better right now. I'm not saying DJ is better, that is crazy talk. I'm saying there's no reason to do it, it's pointless. He's not a long term answer and despite some believing he just keeps carrying bad teams to championships there's zero evidence supporting that. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 29, 2020 13:15:20 GMT -5
Thats crazy talk. If we could have one year of Aaron Rodgers right now you take it. There is a less than 1% chance DJ is better right now. I'm not saying DJ is better, that is crazy talk. I'm saying there's no reason to do it, it's pointless. He's not a long term answer and despite some believing he just keeps carrying bad teams to championships there's zero evidence supporting that. Agree to disagree. He is one of the best QBs to ever play the game. Brady isnt the long term answer in TB but they went all in on him for a shot too. And dont say we arent as good as TB, we beat them last year. Brady makes them much better. Same with Rodgers. If he got us into the playoffs you never know. Has he ever had a RB like Barkley? |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 29, 2020 13:31:22 GMT -5
I'm not saying DJ is better, that is crazy talk. I'm saying there's no reason to do it, it's pointless. He's not a long term answer and despite some believing he just keeps carrying bad teams to championships there's zero evidence supporting that. Agree to disagree. He is one of the best QBs to ever play the game. Brady isnt the long term answer in TB but they went all in on him for a shot too. And dont say we arent as good as TB, we beat them last year. Brady makes them much better. Same with Rodgers. If he got us into the playoffs you never know. Has he ever had a RB like Barkley? TB is better than the Giants. They finished in second place last year. I don't think Brady wins them a SB but I think it was more about season ticket sales than a championship. If Rodgers getting into the playoffs means you never know at least you know the odds. They're currently 11%. This is circular because it's football. If we don't want to credit the team we credit the player if we don't want to credit the payer we credit the team. I submit that he has had more talented teams the the Giants teams that won the two super bowls during his era. Witness the 9 trips to the playoffs. And one championship. |
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Post by Delicreep on Jul 29, 2020 18:14:44 GMT -5
He's signed through 2023 which is means his contract probably becomes affordable and negotiable in 2022. So, it's easy then. Go write an article on which teams you think are going to be stacked on both sides of the ball and only need a top QB to put them over the top in 2022/2023, lol... So you dont think GB plays Love for another 3 years? Isn't that exactly what they did with Rodgers? |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 30, 2020 7:08:51 GMT -5
So you dont think GB plays Love for another 3 years? Isn't that exactly what they did with Rodgers? Different times. QBs taken in the first round now a days are starting year 1 more than likely. Back then it was still given the time to develop. They traded up to get Love. Were as they let Rodgers fall to them. Much more invested in Love than they had in Rodgers. I believe it was the coach before McCarthy who drafted Rodgers, Mike Sherman was the HC in 2005. So, Im not sure McCarthy had the same connection early on with Rodgers as LeFluer now will have with Love. I dont remember the GM situation back then for GB. Obviously I cant say it wont happen 100%, but I think it is highly unlikely they wont let Love see the field by at least 2021. I think its a bad gamble. If I was GB, I would have gotten him protection or a stud WR. I guess they just loved Love. Who knows, maybe Love will surprise and be the next great franchise QB for that team. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 30, 2020 11:51:17 GMT -5
Isn't that exactly what they did with Rodgers? Different times. QBs taken in the first round now a days are starting year 1 more than likely. Back then it was still given the time to develop. They traded up to get Love. Were as they let Rodgers fall to them. Much more invested in Love than they had in Rodgers. I believe it was the coach before McCarthy who drafted Rodgers, Mike Sherman was the HC in 2005. So, Im not sure McCarthy had the same connection early on with Rodgers as LeFluer now will have with Love. I dont remember the GM situation back then for GB. Obviously I cant say it wont happen 100%, but I think it is highly unlikely they wont let Love see the field by at least 2021. I think its a bad gamble. If I was GB, I would have gotten him protection or a stud WR. I guess they just loved Love. Who knows, maybe Love will surprise and be the next great franchise QB for that team. I absolutely love the cult of personality schtick the media sells. Yeah, whatever team gets him is automatically in pole position for a championship. Except for the team he’s on now apparently. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Jul 30, 2020 13:01:47 GMT -5
Different times. QBs taken in the first round now a days are starting year 1 more than likely. Back then it was still given the time to develop. They traded up to get Love. Were as they let Rodgers fall to them. Much more invested in Love than they had in Rodgers. I believe it was the coach before McCarthy who drafted Rodgers, Mike Sherman was the HC in 2005. So, Im not sure McCarthy had the same connection early on with Rodgers as LeFluer now will have with Love. I dont remember the GM situation back then for GB. Obviously I cant say it wont happen 100%, but I think it is highly unlikely they wont let Love see the field by at least 2021. I think its a bad gamble. If I was GB, I would have gotten him protection or a stud WR. I guess they just loved Love. Who knows, maybe Love will surprise and be the next great franchise QB for that team. I absolutely love the cult of personality schtick the media sells. Yeah, whatever team gets him is automatically in pole position for a championship. Except for the team he’s on now apparently. There is a difference between making your team a SB contender and being a SB champion. Rodgers unequivocally makes the Packers a SB contender every year. They will be again next season, unless he wasnt on the team then GB would probably be a bad team. He would do the same for the Giants and many other teams that arent currently contenders. Winning it is a lot tougher obviously. You need a lot of luck. Do you think Rodgers held the team back from winning more championships? Or that he propelled them into a better chance to do so by being their QB? He is one of the greatest QBs I have seen, I know that. He might be a dick, but he is a top 10 QB all time IMO. |
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