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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 20:45:06 GMT -5
Name a HOF QB and I bet you I can name a few great WRs he had available during his playing time.
We need to give Jones legit weapons to throw too, not draft a redundant safety in the 2nd round.. smh
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 28, 2020 20:52:09 GMT -5
Hall of fame quarterbacks can make great receivers.
Name me Aaron Rodgers wide receivers during his career.
It’s not like Jones is playing with Thomas Lewis and Ramses Barden. If he needs “great” players around him, then we’re in trouble.
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Post by Dogecoin on Sept 28, 2020 20:53:16 GMT -5
Err hold on thought we dealt Beckham because he needed a run game ... hmmmm
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 20:54:16 GMT -5
Err hold on thought we dealt Beckham because he needed a run game ... hmmmm This makes no sense. Real Giants fans know why we dealt OBJ. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 20:55:22 GMT -5
Hall of fame quarterbacks can make great receivers. Name me Aaron Rodgers wide receivers during his career. It’s not like Jones is playing with Thomas Lewis and Ramses Barden. If he needs “great” players around him, then we’re in trouble. You got it flipped bro. Name a HOF WR who made an average QB a great QB? I’ll wait... |
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Post by allnygin on Sept 28, 2020 20:55:58 GMT -5
Hall of fame quarterbacks can make great receivers. Name me Aaron Rodgers wide receivers during his career. It’s not like Jones is playing with Thomas Lewis and Ramses Barden. If he needs “great” players around him, then we’re in trouble. Hearing those names just gave me terrible flashbacks to preston parker. |
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 28, 2020 20:57:56 GMT -5
Hall of fame quarterbacks can make great receivers. Name me Aaron Rodgers wide receivers during his career. It’s not like Jones is playing with Thomas Lewis and Ramses Barden. If he needs “great” players around him, then we’re in trouble. You got it flipped bro. Name a HOF WR who made an average QB a great QB? I’ll wait... Michael Irvin. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 28, 2020 20:58:47 GMT -5
Hall of fame quarterbacks can make great receivers. Name me Aaron Rodgers wide receivers during his career. It’s not like Jones is playing with Thomas Lewis and Ramses Barden. If he needs “great” players around him, then we’re in trouble. Think Terry Bradshaw he put balls all over the place. Stallworth and Swan made amazing catches a lot of times great receivers make a QB look better then he is, catching what might be uncatchable for others. |
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 28, 2020 20:59:19 GMT -5
Hall of fame quarterbacks can make great receivers. Name me Aaron Rodgers wide receivers during his career. It’s not like Jones is playing with Thomas Lewis and Ramses Barden. If he needs “great” players around him, then we’re in trouble. Hearing those names just gave me terrible flashbacks to preston parker. If you ever want a tiki hut built, Parker is your man.. |
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 28, 2020 20:59:58 GMT -5
Hall of fame quarterbacks can make great receivers. Name me Aaron Rodgers wide receivers during his career. It’s not like Jones is playing with Thomas Lewis and Ramses Barden. If he needs “great” players around him, then we’re in trouble. Think Terry Bradshaw he put balls all over the place. Stallworth and Swan made amazing catches a lot of times great receivers make a QB look better then he is, catching what might be uncatchable for others. Bradshaw won an MVP. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 28, 2020 21:04:22 GMT -5
Think Terry Bradshaw he put balls all over the place. Stallworth and Swan made amazing catches a lot of times great receivers make a QB look better then he is, catching what might be uncatchable for others. Bradshaw won an MVP. You have seen the high lights, his WRs were catching balls that most wouldn't have a chance to handle nothing against him Terry but he was a little wild with ball placement at times, without those catches steelers probably leave some of those championships for someone else. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 28, 2020 21:05:30 GMT -5
Hall of fame quarterbacks can make great receivers. Name me Aaron Rodgers wide receivers during his career. It’s not like Jones is playing with Thomas Lewis and Ramses Barden. If he needs “great” players around him, then we’re in trouble. You got it flipped bro. Name a HOF WR who made an average QB a great QB? I’ll wait... Julio Jones? |
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Post by lt56 on Sept 28, 2020 21:05:59 GMT -5
Traded Away Beckham and now we're stuck hoping that a 5th Round Pick can become a #1 Receiver
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 28, 2020 21:09:29 GMT -5
Traded Away Beckham and now we're stuck hoping that a 5th Round Pick can become a #1 Receiver The issue wasn't trading away Odell, it was not trying to replace him with a talent. I mean, at least try. |
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Post by McCherry on Sept 28, 2020 21:11:49 GMT -5
Name a HOF QB and I bet you I can name a few great WRs he had available during his playing time. We need to give Jones legit weapons to throw too, not draft a redundant safety in the 2nd round.. smh He missed Engram open twice yesterday. Last week he threw an INT as Engram was falling and missed Shepard wide open on the play As a PFF analyst you had to have seen this. |
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Post by weekendwarrior on Sept 28, 2020 21:20:16 GMT -5
Traded Away Beckham and now we're stuck hoping that a 5th Round Pick can become a #1 Receiver The issue wasn't trading away Odell, it was not trying to replace him with a talent. I mean, at least try. the issue is the giants never reach a critical mass of offensive talent. You need to have more than one star so you aren't trying to force anyone the ball. When Odell was here, they tried to force things to him because he was alone. Same with saquon. You need multiple options to keep teams guessing |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 28, 2020 21:24:20 GMT -5
The issue wasn't trading away Odell, it was not trying to replace him with a talent. I mean, at least try. the issue is the giants never reach a critical mass of offensive talent. You need to have more than one star so you aren't trying to force anyone the ball. When Odell was here, they tried to force things to him because he was alone. Same with saquon. You need multiple options to keep teams guessing They had Odell Saquon and Engram all together... The problem is the OL and QB at the time (Eli's last couple of years). |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 21:47:56 GMT -5
You got it flipped bro. Name a HOF WR who made an average QB a great QB? I’ll wait... Michael Irvin. Nice reach smh. Aikman was a legit franchise QB. Smh |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 21:52:58 GMT -5
You got it flipped bro. Name a HOF WR who made an average QB a great QB? I’ll wait... Julio Jones? Nope... I live in Atlanta. They wanted Ryan gone before the Super Bowl season. Kyle literally saved his career. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2020 21:55:59 GMT -5
Name a HOF QB and I bet you I can name a few great WRs he had available during his playing time. We need to give Jones legit weapons to throw too, not draft a redundant safety in the 2nd round.. smh He missed Engram open twice yesterday. Last week he threw an INT as Engram was falling and missed Shepard wide open on the play As a PFF analyst you had to have seen this. Its easy to point out the bad plays. Let’s focus on the plays that never happened because the WRs are all slot guys who get no separation vs boundary corners unless they are playing zone. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 28, 2020 22:14:45 GMT -5
The issue wasn't trading away Odell, it was not trying to replace him with a talent. I mean, at least try. the issue is the giants never reach a critical mass of offensive talent. You need to have more than one star so you aren't trying to force anyone the ball. When Odell was here, they tried to force things to him because he was alone. Same with saquon. You need multiple options to keep teams guessing And half of this fan base would be perfectly fine with a barely basic offense that can score barely enough more than their defense and would rather want the defense to carry the team like the good ole days in an era where occasionally a team could win like that (but would be even worse than this mess if the powers that be listen to those regressive morons still stuck in 1990) Us educated and enlightened ones have been screaming about this since tbe trade,especially witb an impending new young qb.. |
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Post by Martin on Sept 28, 2020 22:53:07 GMT -5
You just don't see year to year progression. You don't see an improving Oline or secondary or running game or QB play. Where is the GM and the scouting Dept. that makes these hires? They thought this WR group would be good enough? Are they not accountable?? One player who is one concussion away from career ending (Shep). Then we have an aging slot guy in Tate. A one dimensional but talented WR in Slayton. A fast TE that is not a complete player in Engram who IMO is very inconsistent. We ask Barkley to run through a wall to gain anything he can? This team has gone from bad to pathetic. John Mara said the Giants would be competitive this year. I truly believe yes a new coach and staff will slow progress down but the scouting Dept and Dave G. are very responsible for this mess and John Mara has let this team become a laughing stock. As the owner he needed to put his foot down and make critical changes to transform this team. Was he not the owner while the Oline from 2011 died and decayed into oblivion. The Oline has sucked for more than 7 years!! The LB core has continued to get torched on crossing routes!! I can go on and on but at the end of the day where is the CEO of this organization to make the changes that transform and execute? Coaches come and go as well as players and still same results. Could it be the decisions by this owner? He is the only one that has not been replaced since 2011. The Giants are not an NFL football team but just in name only. Since 1965 I have been a fan and I piss blue but I can't remember a stretch of years this bad. Just give us something to believe in. Anything!
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 28, 2020 23:04:57 GMT -5
Hall of fame quarterbacks can make great receivers. Name me Aaron Rodgers wide receivers during his career. It’s not like Jones is playing with Thomas Lewis and Ramses Barden. If he needs “great” players around him, then we’re in trouble. I think its silly to expect to draft a QB who doesn't need a good organization around him. Every good QB who has had success has had good players or coaches or organizations. Name one who didn't. |
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 29, 2020 3:42:23 GMT -5
Nice reach smh. Aikman was a legit franchise QB. Smh Says the guy who never saw him play.. He was an accurate QB, other than that he was very average. The premise of this thread not only got disproved, but twice. Stick to your “Daniel Jones is still playing at Duke” thread. At least there you had a few laughs.. |
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 29, 2020 3:47:33 GMT -5
Hall of fame quarterbacks can make great receivers. Name me Aaron Rodgers wide receivers during his career. It’s not like Jones is playing with Thomas Lewis and Ramses Barden. If he needs “great” players around him, then we’re in trouble. I think its silly to expect to draft a QB who doesn't need a good organization around him. Every good QB who has had success has had good players or coaches or organizations. Name one who didn't. So we need great players for Jones to be successful? What the hell did we draft him 6th overall for then? Also, never said he doesn’t need talented players or coaches around him. But, this notion that without a great supporting cast, Jones will continue to suffer is ridiculous. It’s not like he’s surrounded by bums on this team. |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 29, 2020 5:48:35 GMT -5
Name a HOF QB and I bet you I can name a few great WRs he had available during his playing time. We need to give Jones legit weapons to throw too, not draft a redundant safety in the 2nd round.. smh yeah ......Dan Jones has responsibility and is screwing up all on his own regardless of the roster. he IS part of the problem currently I still think he will get it figured out. |
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Post by Delicreep on Sept 29, 2020 6:16:21 GMT -5
I honestly thought this would change post Eli...
So what we need is a QB who needs neither an offensive line nor receiving threats, who never misses an open receiver and never turns the ball over. That's the key to success.
We should just take 2 or those guys next draft and let hem compete for the starting job...hell, make it 3.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 6:49:48 GMT -5
Nice reach smh. Aikman was a legit franchise QB. Smh This isn't true and he was very lucky to be part of that group of players who made him look like a much better player.. smh also you have no clue.. |
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Post by bavarobeast on Sept 29, 2020 7:47:42 GMT -5
Name a HOF QB and I bet you I can name a few great WRs he had available during his playing time. We need to give Jones legit weapons to throw too, not draft a redundant safety in the 2nd round.. smh Amen brother - the DJ haters are totally clueless. They drink so many glasses of whine they can’t think straight. |
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Sept 29, 2020 8:00:11 GMT -5
Name a HOF QB and I bet you I can name a few great WRs he had available during his playing time. We need to give Jones legit weapons to throw too, not draft a redundant safety in the 2nd round.. smh Amen brother - the DJ haters are totally clueless. They drink so many glasses of whine they can’t think straight. Riiiighhhht. I guess we and the rest is the league will all miss his talent in a year when he's a backup for the Titans. Jones hasn't shown anything to make someone believe he's a franchise QB. |
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