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Post by allnygin on Sept 29, 2020 12:33:26 GMT -5
Nice video breaking down the O-line play if anyone is interested.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 29, 2020 12:37:17 GMT -5
Nice video breaking down the O-line play if anyone is interested. That first play was the Baldy breakdown there were 8 in the box tho he missed one. |
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Post by piddy283 on Sept 29, 2020 12:52:02 GMT -5
I've been watching this guy all year. I like his film breakdown. He's a bit scatterbrained, but he's good.
Based on his sessions:
1- he HATES Garret.
2- Gates has been a scapegoat for fans
3- Fleming is bad
4- Zeitler and Hernandez have had their ups and downs
5- Thomas has shown promise. Expected bumps along the way, but good overall.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 29, 2020 13:02:44 GMT -5
Good stuff thanks, some of the play design seems to be problematic we are running practice squad WRs out there depending on them to get these blocks they need to hit that spot hard in the draft. OL looked more cohesive in this clip and better against stunts. I don't think they have even scratched the surface they will and can get much better.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 29, 2020 13:04:24 GMT -5
I've been watching this guy all year. I like his film breakdown. He's a bit scatterbrained, but he's good. Based on his sessions: 1- he HATES Garret. 2- Gates has been a scapegoat for fans 3- Fleming is bad 4- Zeitler and Hernandez have had their ups and downs 5- Thomas has shown promise. Expected bumps along the way, but good overall. AS I said they will get better this was only game 3 against an active defense they were missing Bosa but had Arnstead and Warner. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 13:07:39 GMT -5
I've been watching this guy all year. I like his film breakdown. He's a bit scatterbrained, but he's good. Based on his sessions: 1- he HATES Garret. 2- Gates has been a scapegoat for fans 3- Fleming is bad 4- Zeitler and Hernandez have had their ups and downs 5- Thomas has shown promise. Expected bumps along the way, but good overall. AS I said they will get better this was only game 3 against an active defense they were missing Bosa but had Arnstead and Warner. Not sure they will be much better against the Rams or Cowboys. Maybe Washington week 6 |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 29, 2020 13:11:48 GMT -5
I've been watching this guy all year. I like his film breakdown. He's a bit scatterbrained, but he's good. Based on his sessions: 1- he HATES Garret. 2- Gates has been a scapegoat for fans 3- Fleming is bad 4- Zeitler and Hernandez have had their ups and downs 5- Thomas has shown promise. Expected bumps along the way, but good overall. The only one with Hernandez that kills me is the one with Kinlaw not because he got tossed and Kinlaw came back to the play. Kinlaw gave him his flank instead of taking it and giving him ride down field he moved lateral with him guess live and learn. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 29, 2020 13:12:11 GMT -5
AS I said they will get better this was only game 3 against an active defense they were missing Bosa but had Arnstead and Warner. Not sure they will be much better against the Rams or Cowboys. Maybe Washington week 6 Washington has a great front Dline when healthy. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 29, 2020 13:13:22 GMT -5
AS I said they will get better this was only game 3 against an active defense they were missing Bosa but had Arnstead and Warner. Not sure they will be much better against the Rams or Cowboys. Maybe Washington week 6 They will as long as they depend on WRs and scheme free runners they are gonna have some issues some of this is scheme specific issues. |
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 29, 2020 14:27:08 GMT -5
Seems he likes Gates?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 29, 2020 14:37:27 GMT -5
Just listened to Columbo over on Giants .Com judge lets his coaches talk every week. Anyway Columbo sounds like he is pounding on them hard and did say they are thousands of reps behind in just practice reps he said he brings the juice and is not gonna let them get down. I trust him as a coach he realizes how much the Line play is hurting the whole team.
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Post by tuckrule on Sept 29, 2020 15:26:11 GMT -5
His evaluation is ok except the the very 1st one, He called the names wrong and the DBL Team with Hernandez and Thomas was terrible. First off when a DBL team is executed up front the 2 linemen need to be foot to foot and shoulder to shoulder, it is obvious it is NOT that way, that is the reason the 9ers were able to beat the DBL team and split the offensive linemen. He blamed it on Thomas when it was actually Hernandez who executed it wrong.
Other than that it was pretty good
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Post by McCherry on Sept 29, 2020 15:40:45 GMT -5
I've been watching this guy all year. I like his film breakdown. He's a bit scatterbrained, but he's good. Based on his sessions: 1- he HATES Garret. 2- Gates has been a scapegoat for fans3- Fleming is bad 4- Zeitler and Hernandez have had their ups and downs 5- Thomas has shown promise. Expected bumps along the way, but good overall. I’ve been saying this all year. Gates has given up no sacks, no penalties. I’ve watched him closely, he’s had a handful of bad plays... he’s playing exactly like someone with 3 games at the position. Gates is going to be fine at center. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 29, 2020 15:56:55 GMT -5
Just listened to Columbo over on Giants .Com judge lets his coaches talk every week. Anyway Columbo sounds like he is pounding on them hard and did say they are thousands of reps behind in just practice reps he said he brings the juice and is not gonna let them get down. I trust him as a coach he realizes how much the Line play is hurting the whole team. On that double it looked like Thomas had a long way go to get there I don't know what the defensive alignment was he had to take a few steps at that point that double wasn't gonna happen. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 29, 2020 16:10:15 GMT -5
Just listened to Columbo over on Giants .Com judge lets his coaches talk every week. Anyway Columbo sounds like he is pounding on them hard and did say they are thousands of reps behind in just practice reps he said he brings the juice and is not gonna let them get down. I trust him as a coach he realizes how much the Line play is hurting the whole team. Sometimes there is no juice to squeeze. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 29, 2020 16:11:27 GMT -5
I've been watching this guy all year. I like his film breakdown. He's a bit scatterbrained, but he's good. Based on his sessions: 1- he HATES Garret. 2- Gates has been a scapegoat for fans3- Fleming is bad 4- Zeitler and Hernandez have had their ups and downs 5- Thomas has shown promise. Expected bumps along the way, but good overall. I’ve been saying this all year. Gates has given up no sacks, no penalties. I’ve watched him closely, he’s had a handful of bad plays... he’s playing exactly like someone with 3 games at the position. Gates is going to be fine at center. Yeah I'm sensing the same thing Right now it looks like a bunch of individuals playing on 5 separate islands.. a fatal situation for having any shot at running the ball..and again this is a major victim of the Covid-19 disadvantage... So it actually looks worse than it is in reality for everyone inside.... Leave everyone but Flemming (insert Peart when comfortable)the entire year and I bet it looks very different by week 10 |
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Post by McCherry on Sept 29, 2020 16:22:37 GMT -5
I’ve been saying this all year. Gates has given up no sacks, no penalties. I’ve watched him closely, he’s had a handful of bad plays... he’s playing exactly like someone with 3 games at the position. Gates is going to be fine at center. Yeah I'm sensing the same thing Right now it looks like a bunch of individuals playing on 5 separate islands.. a fatal situation for having any shot at running the ball..and again this is a major victim of the Covid-19 disadvantage... So it actually looks worse than it is in reality for everyone inside.... Leave everyone but Flemming (insert Peart when comfortable)the entire year and I bet it looks very different by week 10 True words... You might be right about your 8 week prediction. I also agree about Peart, I think he’ll be the one change we might see sooner than later. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 29, 2020 16:28:09 GMT -5
Just listened to Columbo over on Giants .Com judge lets his coaches talk every week. Anyway Columbo sounds like he is pounding on them hard and did say they are thousands of reps behind in just practice reps he said he brings the juice and is not gonna let them get down. I trust him as a coach he realizes how much the Line play is hurting the whole team. Sometimes there is no juice to squeeze. Me thinks theres some we shall see how much. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 29, 2020 16:30:21 GMT -5
Yeah I'm sensing the same thing Right now it looks like a bunch of individuals playing on 5 separate islands.. a fatal situation for having any shot at running the ball..and again this is a major victim of the Covid-19 disadvantage... So it actually looks worse than it is in reality for everyone inside.... Leave everyone but Flemming (insert Peart when comfortable)the entire year and I bet it looks very different by week 10 True words... You might be right about your 8 week prediction. I also agree about Peart, I think he’ll be the one change we might see sooner than later. Which is why all the knee jerk panic is loooolable.... The only thing that I didn't expect was the defense the 1st 2 weeks to actually resemble playing like a unit and keeping the team in the games.. You want to really enjoy comedy of a bunch of instant gratification losers. Join the Big Blue Wrecking crew FB group They already are calling Thomas a bust |
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Post by TEM on Sept 29, 2020 16:43:27 GMT -5
He was spot on with his assessment.
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Post by piddy283 on Sept 29, 2020 16:56:09 GMT -5
I've been watching this guy all year. I like his film breakdown. He's a bit scatterbrained, but he's good. Based on his sessions: 1- he HATES Garret. 2- Gates has been a scapegoat for fans3- Fleming is bad 4- Zeitler and Hernandez have had their ups and downs 5- Thomas has shown promise. Expected bumps along the way, but good overall. I’ve been saying this all year. Gates has given up no sacks, no penalties. I’ve watched him closely, he’s had a handful of bad plays... he’s playing exactly like someone with 3 games at the position. Gates is going to be fine at center. Back in the day I never went back and watched film, especially the OL, but in recent years technology has made it easy to do so. I happened to catch this guys week 1 overview, and have been watching him since. Among other things, he continues to say Gates isn't the issue. From the film he's shown, I tend to agree. We're not great, by any means, but many of the mistakes seen in these videos are due to miscommunication and a lack of cohesion. We should see less and less of these issues the more these guys play together. It sounds crazy, but at this time RT and a true TE seem to be our only real needs on the OL. This doesn't mean we shouldn't look to add a bonafide Center and additional depth next off-season, but RT and TE seem to be our only liabilities. Also, this video highlights how poorly our WR's block. The guy doing the video seems to despise JG's scheme, and commented on a few plays where the WR's were depended on to essentially be the lead blockers, but nonetheless our WR's are below average. They either don't get to the mark in time, miss the mark altogether, or get blown up. As disheartened as I am by the apparent regression of Jones, I'm still confident our OL will continue to show small improvements week to week, and will be a solid unit by the end of this season. |
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 29, 2020 17:22:46 GMT -5
I've been watching this guy all year. I like his film breakdown. He's a bit scatterbrained, but he's good. Based on his sessions: 1- he HATES Garret. 2- Gates has been a scapegoat for fans3- Fleming is bad 4- Zeitler and Hernandez have had their ups and downs 5- Thomas has shown promise. Expected bumps along the way, but good overall. I’ve been saying this all year. Gates has given up no sacks, no penalties. I’ve watched him closely, he’s had a handful of bad plays... he’s playing exactly like someone with 3 games at the position. Gates is going to be fine at center. Should we call Canton and reserve a seat for him? |
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Post by McCherry on Sept 29, 2020 18:41:28 GMT -5
I’ve been saying this all year. Gates has given up no sacks, no penalties. I’ve watched him closely, he’s had a handful of bad plays... he’s playing exactly like someone with 3 games at the position. Gates is going to be fine at center. Back in the day I never went back and watched film, especially the OL, but in recent years technology has made it easy to do so. I happened to catch this guys week 1 overview, and have been watching him since. Among other things, he continues to say Gates isn't the issue. From the film he's shown, I tend to agree. We're not great, by any means, but many of the mistakes seen in these videos are due to miscommunication and a lack of cohesion. We should see less and less of these issues the more these guys play together. It sounds crazy, but at this time RT and a true TE seem to be our only real needs on the OL. This doesn't mean we shouldn't look to add a bonafide Center and additional depth next off-season, but RT and TE seem to be our only liabilities. Also, this video highlights how poorly our WR's block. The guy doing the video seems to despise JG's scheme, and commented on a few plays where the WR's were depended on to essentially be the lead blockers, but nonetheless our WR's are below average. They either don't get to the mark in time, miss the mark altogether, or get blown up. As disheartened as I am by the apparent regression of Jones, I'm still confident our OL will continue to show small improvements week to week, and will be a solid unit by the end of this season. Something we talked about all off season was the fact that while none of our WR's were great, the strength of our offense was the potential of all our weapons on the field at the same time which we never saw last year. This season we saw it for a half a quarter... Now we're missing Barkley and Shepard. And Engram and Slayton are off to bad starts... The biggest irony is that Golden Tate (another scapegoat for fans on this forum) is the only WR playing to up his potential. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 30, 2020 6:11:56 GMT -5
Just listened to Columbo over on Giants .Com judge lets his coaches talk every week. Anyway Columbo sounds like he is pounding on them hard and did say they are thousands of reps behind in just practice reps he said he brings the juice and is not gonna let them get down. I trust him as a coach he realizes how much the Line play is hurting the whole team. On that double it looked like Thomas had a long way go to get there I don't know what the defensive alignment was he had to take a few steps at that point that double wasn't gonna happen. When's the last time we heard one of our coaches talk like this. It's good that he not only knows where the problem is, and is working to fix it, but is willing to articulate to the outside world as well, instead of laying on a line of BS to us, as if we are all a bunch of dolts. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 6:54:02 GMT -5
It sounds crazy, but at this time RT and a true TE seem to be our only real needs on the OL. This doesn't mean we shouldn't look to add a bonafide Center and additional depth next off-season, but RT and TE seem to be our only liabilities. Why isn't Kaden Smith is a good enough TE for you?? |
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Post by piddy283 on Sept 30, 2020 9:39:12 GMT -5
It sounds crazy, but at this time RT and a true TE seem to be our only real needs on the OL. This doesn't mean we shouldn't look to add a bonafide Center and additional depth next off-season, but RT and TE seem to be our only liabilities. Why isn't Kaden Smith is a good enough TE for you?? You ask this as if he's a world beater. Smith has shown very little so far. The fact he may be a better blocker than Engram doesn't make him a good TE. Is Kaden Smith a good enough TE for you? I'd love it if he shows something this year, but at this point we do not have a TE worth writing home about. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 10:08:39 GMT -5
Why isn't Kaden Smith is a good enough TE for you?? You ask this as if he's a world beater. Smith has shown very little so far. The fact he may be a better blocker than Engram doesn't make him a good TE. Is Kaden Smith a good enough TE for you? I'd love it if he shows something this year, but at this point we do not have a TE worth writing home about. I thought he was real good last year and what I like in a TE. Where did I act like he was a world beater with this question that's an over reaction on your part.. This year the whole team is a mess and I was hoping for some more progress with him and Jones but that hasn't happened for any of the players! |
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Post by piddy283 on Sept 30, 2020 11:08:43 GMT -5
You ask this as if he's a world beater. Smith has shown very little so far. The fact he may be a better blocker than Engram doesn't make him a good TE. Is Kaden Smith a good enough TE for you? I'd love it if he shows something this year, but at this point we do not have a TE worth writing home about. I thought he was real good last year and what I like in a TE. Where did I act like he was a world beater with this question that's an over reaction on your part.. This year the whole team is a mess and I was hoping for some more progress with him and Jones but that hasn't happened for any of the players! I liked the little I saw last year too. With Engram simply doing nothing worth a damn, I see no reason why Smith shouldn't get more playing time if things continue. He seemed more well rounded, but maybe not the straight line athlete Engram is. I'm fine with that. As we stand today, I'd like us to add a well-rounded TE in next years draft. This may change if Smith balls out. |
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Post by houndstoothhat on Sept 30, 2020 17:28:03 GMT -5
Keep doing the breakdowns. Nice to see tape of Big Blue. It shows the actual game not what we are told after the fact.
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Post by houndstoothhat on Sept 30, 2020 17:28:59 GMT -5
Keep doing the breakdowns. Nice to see tape of Big Blue. It shows the actual game not what we are told after the fact.
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