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Post by Fletch842 on Oct 7, 2020 10:40:45 GMT -5
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Post by Dezzr on Oct 7, 2020 11:20:16 GMT -5
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Post by Dezzr on Oct 7, 2020 11:21:18 GMT -5
Sorry, didnt see Fletch made a thread about this already.
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 7, 2020 11:27:26 GMT -5
What is a Kyle Allen? As for Haskins, being benched will either ignite a fire under his ass. Or he will pout and become an issue. But, it’s Washington. So who cares..
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Post by GameTime on Oct 7, 2020 11:31:57 GMT -5
Sorry, didnt see Fletch made a thread about this already. Merged...all good |
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Post by GameTime on Oct 7, 2020 11:33:33 GMT -5
Dumb.
Unless they have zero confidence in Haskins. But Rivera mentions winning now is important because of the state of the NFCE so he wants Kyle Allen?
Smith will be the starter before the end of their next game.
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Post by Fletch842 on Oct 7, 2020 11:35:35 GMT -5
What is a Kyle Allen? As for Haskins, being benched will either ignite a fire under his ass. Or he will pout and become an issue. But, it’s Washington. So who cares.. He was the backup in Carolina the last year or two, filled in last year when Cam went down. Followed Riverboat Ron to DC. |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Oct 7, 2020 12:04:50 GMT -5
The fact that they dropped him to #3 is pretty telling to me...I wasn't a fan of the Jones pick at the time but I really was hoping we didn't draft Haskins.
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 7, 2020 13:54:31 GMT -5
What is a Kyle Allen? As for Haskins, being benched will either ignite a fire under his ass. Or he will pout and become an issue. But, it’s Washington. So who cares.. Isn't he the guy that took Newton's job in Carolina last year? |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 7, 2020 14:19:05 GMT -5
Dumb. Unless they have zero confidence in Haskins. But Rivera mentions winning now is important because of the state of the NFCE so he wants Kyle Allen?
Smith will be the starter before the end of their next game. Lol Sounds like Snyder told him to do this.. Great...the Redskins win tbe NFC east at 7-9.,ruin any chance for Haskins to develop,while the eagles/Cowboys miss out going 7-9/6/10 while we develop our young nucleus with no cap issues the next 5 years .... |
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Post by SG88 on Oct 7, 2020 15:04:42 GMT -5
The fact that they dropped him to #3 is pretty telling to me...I wasn't a fan of the Jones pick at the time but I really was hoping we didn't draft Haskins. He actually was having a better year statistically than Daniel Jones. |
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 7, 2020 15:29:04 GMT -5
The kid started 1 year in college and has started 11 total games in the pros, is in his 3rd offensive system in 3 years and had no offseason or preseason with this new staff/system.
Unless there is something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about (work ethic, ability to grasp the system, etc.) this seems very premature.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Oct 7, 2020 15:47:04 GMT -5
The fact that they dropped him to #3 is pretty telling to me...I wasn't a fan of the Jones pick at the time but I really was hoping we didn't draft Haskins. He actually was having a better year statistically than Daniel Jones. He does have the lowest QBR of any QB so far this season, for what it's worth. |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Oct 7, 2020 15:49:41 GMT -5
The kid started 1 year in college and has started 11 total games in the pros, is in his 3rd offensive system in 3 years and had no offseason or preseason with this new staff/system. Unless there is something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about (work ethic, ability to grasp the system, etc.) this seems very premature. Yeah it does seem premature, and surprising they dropped him to 3rd. The fact that they know the division is up for grabs and they don't think he's the guy to get them there is pretty telling. Does make you wonder... |
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 7, 2020 17:31:42 GMT -5
The fact that they dropped him to #3 is pretty telling to me...I wasn't a fan of the Jones pick at the time but I really was hoping we didn't draft Haskins. He actually was having a better year statistically than Daniel Jones. Blasphemy.. Now say Three Hail Marys and hope that Daniel Jones doesn’t trip over his own two feet next Sunday. |
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Post by tuckrule on Oct 7, 2020 18:50:01 GMT -5
Yae Im not surprised. I never liked Haskins as an NFL QB he is too small and wants to run first because his passing is terrible. Weren't the Giants called RACISTS for not drafting Haskins and Taking DJ? And isnt one of the People calling the Giants Racists Louis Riddick, who would have drafted Haskins had he been hired by the NY Giants instead of Gettleman? Aren't there some posters on this site that want to fire Dave Gettleman and hire Louis Riddick as GM to replace him? HMMMMM Isnt that interesting?????
Man Im glad we hired Dave Gettleman, and the Giants F.O. dont listen to one thing anyone on these forums say. Its also a relief to know that Dave Gettleman saw what Haskins was and didn't drink the Kool Aid and listen to the ESPN Bobble Heads or anyone for that matter, about The Giants have no choice but to Draft Haskins as their QB.. Haskins career is going to be as a perenial backup or not in the NFL at all. His tendencies to run first instead of throwing the football is not conducive in the NFL. First off there is a reason he runs first and that is because he doesnt trust his arm. In the NFL being a Run First QB has been proven to be the ingredient to a very short career because of serious injury. For a guy that is as small as Haskins is to have that Run First mentality is sure fire way to get killed in this League.
Example RG3 -- Run First QB and not a very Big Guy for the NFL, when teams figured him out which took exactly until his 2nd season he was negated and wasn't very effective even running. His passing was really never that good especially in his 2nd season when teams studied his film for his 1st season and found his tendencies. Haskins is that type of QB
There are Running QB's in the NFL today that are a success. Difference being they are NOT Run First though. They either RUn to throw the Ball down field, they run because it is scripted that way, or they run because NO ONE IS OPEN. Guys like that are always looking to throw the ball though. Running is their 2nd choice and want to throw. Haskins want to run Like RG-3 did.
There are a few QB's like that in the NFL, The Lamar Jackson type QB's he runs but is always lookin down field to throw ,before he takes off past the LOS.
Haskins isnt one of them, he isnt looking down field to throw the ball, he is looking for a running lane and that is all. His arm is secondary and it always will be in his thought process.
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Post by SG88 on Oct 7, 2020 20:00:30 GMT -5
He actually was having a better year statistically than Daniel Jones. Blasphemy.. Now say Three Hail Marys and hope that Daniel Jones doesn’t trip over his own two feet next Sunday. Don't shoot the messenger. Lol. I know that our fanbase loves piling on Haskins to pump Jones up. Most people knew that Haskins had a short leash once they traded for Kyle Allen. In all seriousness, it is still too early to tell whether or not Jones and Haskins will be even good NFL franchise QB's. IMO, both of them will be good middle of the pack QBs. Maybe they will each make one or two pro bowls. |
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Post by Delicreep on Oct 7, 2020 20:52:36 GMT -5
The kid started 1 year in college and has started 11 total games in the pros, is in his 3rd offensive system in 3 years and had no offseason or preseason with this new staff/system. Unless there is something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about (work ethic, ability to grasp the system, etc.) this seems very premature. It seems wildly premature based on what we have seen on the field. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 7, 2020 22:20:42 GMT -5
The kid started 1 year in college and has started 11 total games in the pros, is in his 3rd offensive system in 3 years and had no offseason or preseason with this new staff/system. Unless there is something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about (work ethic, ability to grasp the system, etc.) this seems very premature. Yeah it does seem premature, and surprising they dropped him to 3rd. The fact that they know the division is up for grabs and they don't think he's the guy to get them there is pretty telling. Does make you wonder... It's a strange move. He looked like a young NFL QB to me. I guess Rivera may think he's got a good defense and an offense good enough that changing the QB is gonna make the difference? I don't know. Seems like a reach to me. You drafted the kid in the first round, let him develop. |
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Post by GameTime on Oct 7, 2020 23:17:56 GMT -5
Yae Im not surprised. I never liked Haskins as an NFL QB he is too small and wants to run first because his passing is terrible. Weren't the Giants called RACISTS for not drafting Haskins and Taking DJ? And isnt one of the People calling the Giants Racists Louis Riddick, who would have drafted Haskins had he been hired by the NY Giants instead of Gettleman? Aren't there some posters on this site that want to fire Dave Gettleman and hire Louis Riddick as GM to replace him? HMMMMM Isnt that interesting????? Man Im glad we hired Dave Gettleman, and the Giants F.O. dont listen to one thing anyone on these forums say. Its also a relief to know that Dave Gettleman saw what Haskins was and didn't drink the Kool Aid and listen to the ESPN Bobble Heads or anyone for that matter, about The Giants have no choice but to Draft Haskins as their QB.. Haskins career is going to be as a perenial backup or not in the NFL at all. His tendencies to run first instead of throwing the football is not conducive in the NFL. First off there is a reason he runs first and that is because he doesnt trust his arm. In the NFL being a Run First QB has been proven to be the ingredient to a very short career because of serious injury. For a guy that is as small as Haskins is to have that Run First mentality is sure fire way to get killed in this League. Example RG3 -- Run First QB and not a very Big Guy for the NFL, when teams figured him out which took exactly until his 2nd season he was negated and wasn't very effective even running. His passing was really never that good especially in his 2nd season when teams studied his film for his 1st season and found his tendencies. Haskins is that type of QB There are Running QB's in the NFL today that are a success. Difference being they are NOT Run First though. They either RUn to throw the Ball down field, they run because it is scripted that way, or they run because NO ONE IS OPEN. Guys like that are always looking to throw the ball though. Running is their 2nd choice and want to throw. Haskins want to run Like RG-3 did. There are a few QB's like that in the NFL, The Lamar Jackson type QB's he runs but is always lookin down field to throw ,before he takes off past the LOS. Haskins isnt one of them, he isnt looking down field to throw the ball, he is looking for a running lane and that is all. His arm is secondary and it always will be in his thought process. He's 6-3 or 6-4 and around 230 how is that small? He has a total of 30 yards rushing so how is he a run first QB? Haskins is obviously having a rough time but dont BS just to feed your agenda against him. |
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 8, 2020 5:04:35 GMT -5
Looks like there was an issue with him grasping the offense (there were whispers about this last year as well).
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Post by OrangeGiant on Oct 8, 2020 5:29:55 GMT -5
My guess...Alex Smith is the starting QB within 3 weeks if they don't start winning.
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Post by Fletch842 on Oct 8, 2020 6:16:32 GMT -5
Yae Im not surprised. I never liked Haskins as an NFL QB he is too small and wants to run first because his passing is terrible. Weren't the Giants called RACISTS for not drafting Haskins and Taking DJ? And isnt one of the People calling the Giants Racists Louis Riddick, who would have drafted Haskins had he been hired by the NY Giants instead of Gettleman? Aren't there some posters on this site that want to fire Dave Gettleman and hire Louis Riddick as GM to replace him? HMMMMM Isnt that interesting????? Man Im glad we hired Dave Gettleman, and the Giants F.O. dont listen to one thing anyone on these forums say. Its also a relief to know that Dave Gettleman saw what Haskins was and didn't drink the Kool Aid and listen to the ESPN Bobble Heads or anyone for that matter, about The Giants have no choice but to Draft Haskins as their QB.. Haskins career is going to be as a perenial backup or not in the NFL at all. His tendencies to run first instead of throwing the football is not conducive in the NFL. First off there is a reason he runs first and that is because he doesnt trust his arm. In the NFL being a Run First QB has been proven to be the ingredient to a very short career because of serious injury. For a guy that is as small as Haskins is to have that Run First mentality is sure fire way to get killed in this League. Example RG3 -- Run First QB and not a very Big Guy for the NFL, when teams figured him out which took exactly until his 2nd season he was negated and wasn't very effective even running. His passing was really never that good especially in his 2nd season when teams studied his film for his 1st season and found his tendencies. Haskins is that type of QB There are Running QB's in the NFL today that are a success. Difference being they are NOT Run First though. They either RUn to throw the Ball down field, they run because it is scripted that way, or they run because NO ONE IS OPEN. Guys like that are always looking to throw the ball though. Running is their 2nd choice and want to throw. Haskins want to run Like RG-3 did. There are a few QB's like that in the NFL, The Lamar Jackson type QB's he runs but is always lookin down field to throw ,before he takes off past the LOS. Haskins isnt one of them, he isnt looking down field to throw the ball, he is looking for a running lane and that is all. His arm is secondary and it always will be in his thought process. He's 6-3 or 6-4 and around 230 how is that small? He has a total of 30 yards rushing so how is he a run first QB? Haskins is obviously having a rough time but dont BS just to feed your agenda against him. I don't remember Riddick calling the Giants racist. Steven A Smith, and Steve Smith, amongst others. Of course, I have trouble remembering what I had for dinner last night, so there is that... |
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Post by JoeyCush on Oct 8, 2020 8:40:12 GMT -5
He's 6-3 or 6-4 and around 230 how is that small? He has a total of 30 yards rushing so how is he a run first QB? Haskins is obviously having a rough time but dont BS just to feed your agenda against him. I don't remember Riddick calling the Giants racist. Steven A Smith, and Steve Smith, amongst others. Of course, I have trouble remembering what I had for dinner last night, so there is that... Cris Carter said "If Dwayne Haskins, as an African American, goes to Duke and puts up those mediocre stats, 7th in the Conference, he's not drafted Day 1 or Day 2. That stuff is racial." I dont recall Riddick mentioning race though, only that he would have drafted Haskins over DJ. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 8, 2020 14:59:51 GMT -5
Yeah it does seem premature, and surprising they dropped him to 3rd. The fact that they know the division is up for grabs and they don't think he's the guy to get them there is pretty telling. Does make you wonder... It's a strange move. He looked like a young NFL QB to me. I guess Rivera may think he's got a good defense and an offense good enough that changing the QB is gonna make the difference? I don't know. Seems like a reach to me. You drafted the kid in the first round, let him develop. I'm sniffing the Snyder turd again meddling with the plan ... Reminds me so much of Vader's famous line "pray that I don't alter the plans further " I mean,you jump at this job without seeing what else is available,be careful for what you wish for |
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