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Post by boxcarwillie on Nov 2, 2020 23:34:19 GMT -5
I'm going out on a limb here.
Stick with D Jones.
Maybe the game will slow down just a tick for him with some more experience.
I don't know if this is wise, but it seems plausible, and largely overlooked at moments like these.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Nov 2, 2020 23:34:33 GMT -5
Tannehill was replaced in Miami. Look at him now.. Sure. Maybe Jones will turn it around like Tannehill on another team, but it won't be here. If we don't win more than 1 more game this season, we are taking Lawrence or Fields with our new GM.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 2, 2020 23:34:46 GMT -5
1-7 A quarterback who doesn’t have the slightest clue how to win in this league. A wasted effort by our defense, again. Let’s cut the shit, we have so many questions on this team that even Sherlock Holmes couldn’t solve. Daniel Jones, should now be in the discussion of is he a franchise quarterback? Or just an ok quarterback? I think he should be in audition mode and the Giants should be looking to draft over him if he can't string together 8 good games in the final 8 games.
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Post by houndstoothhat on Nov 2, 2020 23:35:10 GMT -5
wht Judge should be pissed at himself for some calls. He needs to get rid of DD. Yes that was a foul in the end zone but what was worse was how late Danny’s throw was. This O line played good for most. The D played very good most of the time but QB play stunk and coaching and plaoy calls stunk somewhat. This team still has no pass rusher. Judge does not have any self concern if he doesn’t call the league and let them know the truth.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 2, 2020 23:35:54 GMT -5
This season is so "what if". They're losing so many close games. The 49ers game honestly was the only one where they were severely outclassed. You could say they are a QB away from being good team.
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Post by krappdetector on Nov 2, 2020 23:36:16 GMT -5
Any other home team would have got a PI on that. Giants are losers and they get shafted constantly. Judge needs to definitely open an inquiry with the league. These calls should be fireable offenses....it's been absolutely ridiculous JUST. STOP. WHINING. We lost because the leader of our offense did NOT play well.
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Post by gmen21 on Nov 2, 2020 23:36:30 GMT -5
I agree. The Giants could easily have 4 or 5 wins right now. Instead we have 1. not easily....but yes they could have. At least 3 or 4 Agree. Easily was the wrong word for sure...lol
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Post by TGTW92 on Nov 2, 2020 23:37:13 GMT -5
ridiculous statement. He's done better than I thought he would so far It’s ridiculous? We’re 1-7 I don't really get what some of you want. We've been in a lot of games to the end. He uses his timeouts wisely. Has swapped players around. Individual players have gotten better as the season goes on. Seems to have the locker room still. As much as Jones sucks I can't remember the last delay of game penalty (a problem under the last 3 coaches). Record aside he's done fine.
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Post by GameTime on Nov 2, 2020 23:37:31 GMT -5
Tannehill was replaced in Miami. Look at him now, again. who gives a rats ass if Jones winds up doing well on another team... You think Miami gives a crap about Tannehill??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2020 23:37:47 GMT -5
Another GM won't give up on Jones without surrounding him with talent first.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2020 23:38:01 GMT -5
who gives a rats ass if Jones winds up doing well on another team... You think Miami gives a crap about Tannehill?? Yes
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Post by krappdetector on Nov 2, 2020 23:39:10 GMT -5
Na he's good, he'll get better .... you forgot the emojis..
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Post by bluebuddha on Nov 2, 2020 23:39:17 GMT -5
I'm going out on a limb here. Stick with D Jones. Maybe the game will slow down just a tick for him with some more experience. I don't know if this is wise, but it seems plausible, and largely overlooked at moments like these. I agree. The comeback is progression. I have been waiting to see that all season for that. It is a new system also. I am willing to be patient ... starting tommorrow....but right now he is the reason we lost.
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Post by GameTime on Nov 2, 2020 23:39:27 GMT -5
who gives a rats ass if Jones winds up doing well on another team... You think Miami gives a crap about Tannehill?? Yes ahh no they dont. you want a QB to do well with your own team... They dont care
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Post by gmen21 on Nov 2, 2020 23:39:34 GMT -5
It’s ridiculous? We’re 1-7 I don't really get what some of you want. We've been in a lot of games to the end. He uses his timeouts wisely. Has swapped players around. Individual players have gotten better as the season goes on. Seems to have the locker room still. As much as Jones sucks I can't remember the last delay of game penalty (a problem under the last 3 coaches). Record aside he's done fine. I do agree, we definitely fight as a team. But the wins need to start coming. 1-7 is awful. Obviously Jones isn’t helping.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 2, 2020 23:40:00 GMT -5
I'm going out on a limb here. Stick with D Jones. Maybe the game will slow down just a tick for him with some more experience. I don't know if this is wise, but it seems plausible, and largely overlooked at moments like these. I think you stick with him through the season if we are in position to draft one of the top 2 QBs and Judge wants him that means Jones failed and it is time to move on. Trade him for what ever you can get and draft fields if we can.
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Post by TGTW92 on Nov 2, 2020 23:41:16 GMT -5
I don't really get what some of you want. We've been in a lot of games to the end. He uses his timeouts wisely. Has swapped players around. Individual players have gotten better as the season goes on. Seems to have the locker room still. As much as Jones sucks I can't remember the last delay of game penalty (a problem under the last 3 coaches). Record aside he's done fine. I do agree, we definitely fight as a team. But the wins need to start coming. 1-7 is awful. Obviously Jones isn’t helping. I agree man. I'm just so numb to the losing now. Now to get a few hours of sleep and brush it off until the next one.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Nov 2, 2020 23:41:28 GMT -5
You can't turn the ball over in this league. He turns it over nearly 2 times a game. You can say he doesn't have great weapons, or his line isn't great..fine. That doesn't mean it's an excuse to continually turn the ball over. You can take a sack. You can throw the ball away.
He did it in college, and it's continued in the NFL. That is a pattern, not an anomaly. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard. Typically a QB who turns the ball over keeps turning the ball over. It's usually doesn't go away.
Daniel Jones cost his team this game...period.
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Post by gmen21 on Nov 2, 2020 23:42:29 GMT -5
I do agree, we definitely fight as a team. But the wins need to start coming. 1-7 is awful. Obviously Jones isn’t helping. I agree man. I'm just so numb to the losing now. Now to get a few hours of sleep and brush it off until the next one. Same. The losing is just numbing. I don’t know what else to say anymore.
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Post by GameTime on Nov 2, 2020 23:42:49 GMT -5
so sick of this close game bullshit.
A lot to ask a second year QB to carry the team but he has the skills he just puts his head up his ass way too often.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 2, 2020 23:43:11 GMT -5
Another GM won't give up on Jones without surrounding him with talent first. I was on board but 35 turn overs in 20 games this kid has lost at least 2 or 3 games for this team alone.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2020 23:44:18 GMT -5
so sick of this close game bullshit. A lot to ask a second year QB to carry the team but he has the skills he just puts his head up his ass way too often. I appreciate you acknowledging that he's only a 2nd year QB. He'll get better.
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 2, 2020 23:44:51 GMT -5
Every game is the same. It's a sad time for our beloved team.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 2, 2020 23:45:11 GMT -5
You can't turn the ball over in this league. He turns it over nearly 2 times a game. You can say he doesn't have great weapons, or his line isn't great..fine. That doesn't mean it's an excuse to continually turn the ball over. You can take a sack. You can throw the ball away. He did it in college, and it's continued in the NFL. That is a pattern, not an anomaly. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard. Typically a QB who turns the ball over keeps turning the ball over. It's usually doesn't go away. Daniel Jones cost his team this game...period. If he doesn't have a run of clean games through the end of the season I say if they are in position draft over him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2020 23:45:25 GMT -5
You can't turn the ball over in this league. He turns it over nearly 2 times a game. You can say he doesn't have great weapons, or his line isn't great..fine. That doesn't mean it's an excuse to continually turn the ball over. You can take a sack. You can throw the ball away. He did it in college, and it's continued in the NFL. That is a pattern, not an anomaly. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard. Typically a QB who turns the ball over keeps turning the ball over. It's usually doesn't go away. Daniel Jones cost his team this game...period. This thread should end with this perfectly stated summary....
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Post by yoho on Nov 2, 2020 23:45:41 GMT -5
I'm going out on a limb here. Stick with D Jones. Maybe the game will slow down just a tick for him with some more experience. I don't know if this is wise, but it seems plausible, and largely overlooked at moments like these. OK, I'm real mad a Jones tonight. Bill Parcells probably would have benched him after the int to send a message, and I would have agreed with that. Jones has to develop pocket awareness, period. That play where he went back, and Slayton bailed him out was again bad pocket awareness. And he has to throw balls away or take a sack instead of forcing ints. But I understand him being gunshy given he has had no running game or pass blocking before now. They have to build his confidence back up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2020 23:45:50 GMT -5
You can't turn the ball over in this league. He turns it over nearly 2 times a game. You can say he doesn't have great weapons, or his line isn't great..fine. That doesn't mean it's an excuse to continually turn the ball over. You can take a sack. You can throw the ball away. He did it in college, and it's continued in the NFL. That is a pattern, not an anomaly. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard. Typically a QB who turns the ball over keeps turning the ball over. It's usually doesn't go away. Daniel Jones cost his team this game...period. Do you believe in duality? You could cost your team a game and be a 2nd year QB learning at the same time..
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Post by babybulls on Nov 2, 2020 23:47:20 GMT -5
I hope I get to eat my words, but I think Jones will be a backup QB, within 2 years.
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Post by Morehead State on Nov 2, 2020 23:47:30 GMT -5
You can't turn the ball over in this league. He turns it over nearly 2 times a game. You can say he doesn't have great weapons, or his line isn't great..fine. That doesn't mean it's an excuse to continually turn the ball over. You can take a sack. You can throw the ball away. He did it in college, and it's continued in the NFL. That is a pattern, not an anomaly. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard. Typically a QB who turns the ball over keeps turning the ball over. It's usually doesn't go away. Daniel Jones cost his team this game...period. Do you believe in duality? You could cost your team a game and be a 2nd year QB learning at the same time.. He should be a lot better than this by now. He's repeating the same mistakes over and over.
I find that alarming.
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Post by boxcarwillie on Nov 2, 2020 23:47:42 GMT -5
I'm going out on a limb here. Stick with D Jones. Maybe the game will slow down just a tick for him with some more experience. I don't know if this is wise, but it seems plausible, and largely overlooked at moments like these. I think you stick with him through the season if we are in position to draft one of the top 2 QBs and Judge wants him that means Jones failed and it is time to move on. Trade him for what ever you can get and draft fields if we can. Definitely. If moving on from Jones is what's best for the NY Giants I'm all for it.
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