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Post by Blue Hulk on Sept 13, 2018 10:02:16 GMT -5
Based on preseason and the first game, I think we need to go:
OL - OT and G (Fix the right side)
LB - We need an athletic linebacker who can cover TE's and RB's
DB - Beal plus someone else....Hopefully a rangy FS
We also need to sign a damn punt returner. I don't think we have many other pressing needs at starter.
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 13, 2018 10:19:11 GMT -5
Based on preseason and the first game, I think we need to go: OL - OT and G (Fix the right side) LB - We need an athletic linebacker who can cover TE's and RB's DB - Beal plus someone else....Hopefully a rangy FS We also need to sign a damn punt returner. I don't think we have many other pressing needs at starter. The most glaring need is the same as last year....QB. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Sept 13, 2018 10:49:13 GMT -5
hahahah...We have Lauletta the Go getta
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Post by nmrt13 on Sept 14, 2018 8:36:22 GMT -5
How about a ball hawking FS. Would love a Kenny Philips clone in this defense |
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Post by EliQB10 on Sept 16, 2018 22:34:56 GMT -5
After tonight's performance this seems like the most relevant post on this board..
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Post by bizcliz on Sept 17, 2018 8:46:48 GMT -5
It's still OL/pass rusher for me.
Nobody outside of the QB in Oregon excites me - but the 2020 class is looking strong with Fromm/Eason/Tua.
Focus on the trenches, MLB and DB depth - let Lauletta/Eli compete for #1 and then go in at QB the following year. I am more than ok with Lauletta competing for the starting job in the offseason. If he plays better than Manning, awesome. If the competition helps push Eli to play better? Great.
Don't swing and miss on a QB that isn't there because you feel pressure from the outside to do so.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 19, 2018 5:14:26 GMT -5
#1 - QB
#2 - OT
#3 - C
#4 - OG
#5 - DE
Im sure we will see a flashy WR though and go that way to give Eli another weapon and drool over how unstoppable he will make us. Then when it doesnt work out, most will say "How is Eli suppose to move the ball when there is no OL!?" just like this year.
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Post by TEM on Sept 19, 2018 6:46:22 GMT -5
We need a RG and a OT .
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Post by bizcliz on Sept 19, 2018 7:40:31 GMT -5
1) OT
2) EDGE
3) OG
4) CB
5) FS
6) QB
I'd rather boost up the trenches/secondary and then give Lauletta/Eli a shot to compete for the #1 spot behind a hypothetical stronger OL.
Like I posted earlier, the 2020 class looks better with Fromm/Tua/Eason - if one of those is your guy, go up and grab him. I am 100% cool with trading up to get your franchise QB if you think he's there.
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Post by WV-Giant Fan on Sept 19, 2018 21:54:10 GMT -5
1) Center
2) LT
3) RG
4) LB
5) LB
6) FS
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 22, 2018 10:12:32 GMT -5
Based on preseason and the first game, I think we need to go: OL - OT and G (Fix the right side) LB - We need an athletic linebacker who can cover TE's and RB's DB - Beal plus someone else....Hopefully a rangy FS We also need to sign a damn punt returner. I don't think we have many other pressing needs at starter. The most glaring need is the same as last year....QB. Only QB worth our time is Mizzou QB Drew Lock or MAYBE Oregon QB Justin Herbert... Apparently this is a pretty bad qb class RT RG CB (Wbich is 1 of the stronger positions this class) Edge Rusher |
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 22, 2018 10:15:22 GMT -5
1) Center 2) LT 3) RG 4) LB 5) LB 6) FS LT, really?? What do u suggest we do with Solder then??? We have Solder and Wheeler both pretty much strictly LT's, what we need is an RT. Id like the idea of drafting a OT who can start on the right and switch to the left after solder is done |
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Post by WV-Giant Fan on Sept 23, 2018 19:45:42 GMT -5
1) Center 2) LT 3) RG 4) LB 5) LB 6) FS LT, really?? What do u suggest we do with Solder then??? We have Solder and Wheeler both pretty much strictly LT's, what we need is an RT. Id like the idea of drafting a OT who can start on the right and switch to the left after solder is done I would like a mauler at LT and move Solder to RT he is overpaid avg LT |
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 24, 2018 16:22:35 GMT -5
LT, really?? What do u suggest we do with Solder then??? We have Solder and Wheeler both pretty much strictly LT's, what we need is an RT. Id like the idea of drafting a OT who can start on the right and switch to the left after solder is done I would like a mauler at LT and move Solder to RT he is overpaid avg LT I mean if there was an orlando pace type prospect id be all for it. But having Solder, who IMO is much more of an LT means we would more likely start the prospect at RT, then after Solder is done maybe shift him to LT?? but hey, if there is a sick LT prospect, i wouldnt be opposed |
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 25, 2018 12:07:05 GMT -5
I had off for the day so I figured id look into the future and see if any possible prospects intrigue me to make college football more interesting since I don't really have a team. Lets start with the meat and potatoes of things with some OL....
Elgton Jenkins, C, Miss St- top center prospect, walterfootball has him going in rounds 1-3. watched some tape of him vs bama going up against top level comp and he didn't flinch. athletic and can move, not nearly as nasty or as much of a finisher as I would like. hes good but he just doesn't play nasty, some plays looks like he is just going through the motions. good pass protector, lacks nastiness in run blocking
Michael Jordan, C/G/T, Ohio St- plays guard, projects as a center, looks and moves like a tackle. watched his tape vs Wisconsin and he is like a more athletic david Diehl, he can do it all quite well but OG or RT may be his best spot. not really a people mover but very efficient in run blocking and even better in pass pro. super athletic, always looking for the next guy to block, excellent with combo blocks and against stunts, projected in the 2nd-4th rounds
Dalton Risner, RT/C, Kansas ST- big, strong, mean, and always looking for the next guy to hit. projected to go in the 2nd -4th rounds, watched him against Miss ST where he did well for the most part, he has a little issue with speed rushers but overall had a good day. decent agility, good footwork for a guy of his stature...the naaaaame's Dalton
Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama- big, strong, mean just like Dalton but also quick on his feet like Jenkins or Jordan. Currently a lt for bama, imo he would be a BEAST at RT, then again the past few bama ot's that came out were more rt than lt's. Currently being projected between the 1st and 3rd rounds, I would love it if we could draft him in the 2nd. quickly becoming my favorite ol prospect so far for us, as much as I love the movie roadhouse and I do, hell I am literally wearing a double deuce shirt as I type this, sorry Dalton Jonah is my fav ol prospect, SO FAR
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Post by cruzsoldier on Sept 25, 2018 12:24:56 GMT -5
How about a ball hawking FS. Would love a Kenny Philips clone in this defense Maybe Will Hill without the drug problem.... |
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Post by cruzsoldier on Sept 25, 2018 12:27:26 GMT -5
Based on preseason and the first game, I think we need to go: OL - OT and G (Fix the right side) LB - We need an athletic linebacker who can cover TE's and RB's DB - Beal plus someone else....Hopefully a rangy FS We also need to sign a damn punt returner. I don't think we have many other pressing needs at starter. The most glaring need is the same as last year....QB. I think we both have been saying this way back on the old GMB(Giants message board.) I’m glad PS actually moved him around a bit. He said he’s going to do this a lot more this year and I say amen to that. |
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Post by Parademon1 on Sept 25, 2018 12:36:00 GMT -5
#1-RT & RG, 2 best should be snagged in rd1-rd2 imo.
#2-DB
#3-LB that can cover TEs
#4-DE-can never have too many pass rushers.
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Post by Kase1 on Sept 25, 2018 12:47:45 GMT -5
Lets get real, Eli isn't gonna be around forever as much as the ELA aka the Eli Loyalist Army believes he will play well into his 60s. This year there are pretty much 2 names you're gonna hear as the top 2 prospects, Herbert and Lock, so lets get nice and ripped and give em a look....
Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon- 6'6, 225, man this kid can really throw on the move. he has the strength to stretch the field and the touch to lay it in there on a bread and butter back shoulder pass. so far my biggest knock is his lack of going through his reads, he will look at 1 guy then fire, he's not really surveying the field. super mobile, he can elude a blitzer or take it and run for 1st down. yeesh sometimes he STARES down the guy getting the ball, os far I haven't seen him go through more than 2 reads on a play and theyre always on the same side of the field, maybe its the system. if he can show some better field vision he could be a nasty qb
Drew Lock, QB, Missouri- 6'3, 226, absolute cannon that delivers a BEAUTIFUL ball, mobile enough, not quite cam newton not quite peyton manning, IMO throws the best ball out of 2019 prospects, if anything he has a tendency to overthrow but has the touch to fit it in a small window, kids a window thrower. reads his progressions better than Herbert but still nothing great, at least he doesn't lock on to his wrs like Herbie. IMO he is a perfect pocket qb who can gain a few yds if needed but don't build any play around his running, cause its the arm that gonna beat you. doesn't throw as well as Herbert on the run, but when he sets his feet or is in the pocket, he's money
Id be happy with either of them in the 1st as long as they don't start the 2019 season, IMO right now neither is ready... and it would be nice to have a solid ol in front of them so they don't get shell shocked. Tighten up the OL, draft a qb and give eli 1 more year, OR tighten up the OL, give eli 1 more year, and draft a qb in 2020 to start in 2020 day 1
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Post by Blue Hulk on Oct 14, 2018 11:11:29 GMT -5
Nice breakdown. I haven’t watched lock yet. I like Herbert.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 11:33:00 GMT -5
1) Center 2) LT 3) RG 4) LB 5) LB 6) FS LT, really?? What do u suggest we do with Solder then??? We have Solder and Wheeler both pretty much strictly LT's, what we need is an RT. Id like the idea of drafting a OT who can start on the right and switch to the left after solder is done Well, to be fair, Solder was done when the Patriots said bye and we signed him to that silly contract.  Many left tackles drafted start as right tackles. You will always draft a left tackle vs right tackle from college as they are generally the better players. So yeah, we need a LT and a guard/center....especially when we finally get our rookie QB in there...no need of a Carr crash. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 11:37:34 GMT -5
Lets get real, Eli isn't gonna be around forever as much as the ELA aka the Eli Loyalist Army believes he will play well into his 60s. This year there are pretty much 2 names you're gonna hear as the top 2 prospects, Herbert and Lock, so lets get nice and ripped and give em a look.... Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon- 6'6, 225, man this kid can really throw on the move. he has the strength to stretch the field and the touch to lay it in there on a bread and butter back shoulder pass. so far my biggest knock is his lack of going through his reads, he will look at 1 guy then fire, he's not really surveying the field. super mobile, he can elude a blitzer or take it and run for 1st down. yeesh sometimes he STARES down the guy getting the ball, os far I haven't seen him go through more than 2 reads on a play and theyre always on the same side of the field, maybe its the system. if he can show some better field vision he could be a nasty qb Drew Lock, QB, Missouri- 6'3, 226, absolute cannon that delivers a BEAUTIFUL ball, mobile enough, not quite cam newton not quite peyton manning, IMO throws the best ball out of 2019 prospects, if anything he has a tendency to overthrow but has the touch to fit it in a small window, kids a window thrower. reads his progressions better than Herbert but still nothing great, at least he doesn't lock on to his wrs like Herbie. IMO he is a perfect pocket qb who can gain a few yds if needed but don't build any play around his running, cause its the arm that gonna beat you. doesn't throw as well as Herbert on the run, but when he sets his feet or is in the pocket, he's money Id be happy with either of them in the 1st as long as they don't start the 2019 season, IMO right now neither is ready... and it would be nice to have a solid ol in front of them so they don't get shell shocked. Tighten up the OL, draft a qb and give eli 1 more year, OR tighten up the OL, give eli 1 more year, and draft a qb in 2020 to start in 2020 day 1 Nice post....Lock and Herbert are it regarding live arms. The knock on Lock is he is not much of a leader...certainly not much fire, and yeah, he too has funky progressions. Herbert and Lock will be the names, IMHO, we will hear up until next April's draft. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 14, 2018 16:08:12 GMT -5
How about a ball hawking FS. Would love a Kenny Philips clone in this defense Maybe Will Hill without the drug problem.... It's not a drug problem, just weed. 😂 |
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Post by Kase1 on Oct 15, 2018 13:26:28 GMT -5
How about a ball hawking FS. Would love a Kenny Philips clone in this defense sounds like Lukas Denis from boston college or maybe mike edwards from kentucky |
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Post by Kase1 on Oct 15, 2018 13:43:57 GMT -5
Im REALLY starting to like
C/RT Dalton Risner from Kansas St, big mean mauler who is a force in the run game and good enough in the pass pro. loves to beat the crap out of his opponent, has some trouble with speed guys when he was at RT.
C/G Tyler Biadasz from Wisconsin. super agile, good pass pro guy, even better run blocker, easily my favorite wisconin lineman this year. not really a hole in his game, could start day 1 at center or rg.
Id love to get either 1, if not both of those guys in the 2nd and maybe 4th rounds
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Post by Kase1 on Oct 15, 2018 15:29:15 GMT -5
A few names that havent been mentioned much on these boards. Other than Williams and White none of them are 1st rounders, but im BIG FANS of these guys so far CB - I want a big, cover cb who isnt a liability in run support but is more of a coverage guy -Greedy Williams, LSU. 6'2, 175LBS For pass coverage, Williams is a stand-out cornerback. The first thing that is obvious is his ability to run the route and prevent separation. Williams possesses enough speed to carry verticals and the recoverability to close gaps from breaks. He has quick feet and the agility to stay in the hip pocket of wideouts. On top of his ability to run, Williams has excellent height and length, which make it tough to get around him. On top of his physical skills, Williams has an impressive mental makeup as an instinctive player. The biggest concern regarding Williams entering his redshirt sophomore season is his weight. He is extremely thin-framed, and that is an issue that could weigh down his draft grade if he is unable to pack on more pounds leading up to his draft. Being so skinny is going to cause a lot of teams to have durability concerns because a lot of thin-framed cornerbacks have a hard time avoiding injuries in professional football. Big, strong pro receivers could also have success out-muscling him and pushing him around. Adding weight is vital for Williams. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2019CB.php#ixzz5U24Rhgll-Amani Oruwariye, Penn ST, 6'1, 203LB Oruwariye formed a tough cornerback tandem for Penn State in 2017 with Christian Campbell. Oruwariye was impressive with 28 tackles, eight passes broken up and four interceptions on the year. It was a big jump in ball production as he had one interception, one breakup and 23 tackles over the previous season. Oruwariye is a big corner who has some quickness, and if he shows the speed to run with receivers, he could rise over the course of the 2018 season and in the leadup to the 2019 NFL Draft Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2019CB.php#ixzz5U24zYTCNSafety- I want a ball hawking safety who we can let play centerfield while LC is our missle attacking the los. i want a coverage specialist who can actually cover a te or rb without worry -Lukas Denis, Boston College 5'11, 187lb Denis was a ballhawk for Boston College in 2017, totaling seven interceptions with 10 passes broken up. He also had 83 tackles. It was a breakout year for Denis, and he would be rated higher if he had more size to him. Gaining weight and getting stronger will be important for Denis. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2019S.php#ixzz5U25Eb7jY-Mike Edwards, Kentucky, 5'10, 201lb Edwards has been a productive player over the past two years, and he would be rated higher if he were bigger. In 2017, Edwards totaled 97 tackles with seven passes broken up and four interceptions. He totaled 100 tackles with eight passes broken up and three interceptions during his sophomore season. If Edwards stays consistent as a senior, he could end up being a second-day pick despite the size concerns. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2019S.php#ixzz5U25ThOsuLB- personally this year id like for us to get a speedy sideline to sideline LB that can actually help out in coverage yet also stuff the run and have the ability to blitz -Devin White, LSU 6'2, 236LB "This kid could end up being similar to Ray Lewis. I'd take White over any of the linebackers this year. He's unbelievable. Unless he gets hurt or completely shuts it down to protect himself, he'll be the first linebacker drafted next year. He's the complete package. Great character. He's the signal-caller of the defense with a super football IQ. He's big, study, and stout enough for Mike - middle linebacker; swift enough for Will - weakside linebacker -, great athlete and coverage instincts. Stacks up the stat boxes, all of them. He's fast, an explosive tackler, and [has] elite reactionary quickness. "Right now, he's among the best, and maybe the best, I've scouted. Better athlete and versatility than [Dont'a] Hightower. More explosive, violent, and bigger than C.J. Mosley; same level of instincts. Better than Jerod Mayo at Tennessee. Bigger than Jonathan Vilma while being more violent and instinctive than D.J. Williams, same kind of freak athlete explosiveness-wise. thumper like Sean Weatherspoon. Basically, he's a bigger version of Roquan Smith in the 240-250-pound range. He's FUN to watch. Unbelievable stamina and motor. He could be the best linebacker ever to come out of LSU."
Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2019ILB.php#ixzz5U25ljDkR-Devin Bush, Michigan, 5'11, 232lb, Bush were taller and had more length, he would be rated higher as he has been an impressive defender for the Wolverines. In 2017, Bush totaled 101 tackles with five sacks, eight passes broken up and an interception. He has speed, instincts, and some athleticism Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2019ILB.php#ixzz5U264HReg-Mack Wilson, Alabama, 6'1, 238lb Team sources say that Wilson has been projected to have potential as a first- through fourth-round pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, entering the 2018 season. In 2017, Wilson collected 40 tackles with 2.5 tackles for a loss, two passes batted and four interceptions. Inside linebackers with pass-coverage skills are always in demand, so if Wilson maintains that kind of play in coverage, there will be plenty of NFL teams hoping to land him. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2019ILB.php#ixzz5U26F7VFx3-4 OLB/EDGE- We need to address the pass rush, or lack thereof -Curtis Granderson, Wyoming, 6'5, 261lb In 2017, Granderson totaled 77 tackles with 16 tackles for a loss, 9.5 sacks, two interceptions and one forced fumble. He had four sacks as a sophomore. Granderson owns a nice frame and could add weight in a pro strength and conditioning program. In the spring of 2018, Granderson had to recover from a UCL tear in his left elbow Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2019OLB3-4.php#ixzz5U28HANLQ-Jalen Jenks Oregon, 6'5, 244lb In the pass rush, Jelks is quick off the edge and shows nice vision with instincts to adjust to the offense. He has the speed to close and can run around blockers. Jelks flashes some ability to bend his long frame, and that make him harder to block. Oregon rushed Jelks from the inside over guards far too often, and his natural home is rushing off the edge. He's a terrible misfit at defensive tackle. Lining him up on the inside suppressed Jelks sack potential, and he could produce more if he's given the opportunity to go against offensive tackles. As a run defender, Jelks is a good pursuit player and flows well to the ball. He reads his keys well and is able to get in good position to get in on tackles. For the NFL, Jelks is going to need to add more weight to his frame. He is lean and could have issues with downhills runs coming straight at him. He also gets into trouble in the ground game and pass rush when he stands up too high. For a pro defense, Jelks probably would fit best as a 3-4 outside linebacker. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2019OLB3-4.php#ixzz5U28U1aVf-Oshane Ximines, Old Dominion 6'3, 252lb Sources have told me that Ximines earned a preseason selection on team's watch lists as a prospect for the first four rounds of the 2019 NFL Draft. In 2017, he recorded 44 tackles with 14 tackles for a loss, 8.5 sacks, three passes batted and four forced fumbles. He had 7.5 sacks as a sophomore and five as a freshman. Ximines might fit best as a 3-4 outside linebacker in the NFL given his body type. Read more: walterfootball.com/draft2019OLB3-4.php#ixzz5U28rOUS4 |
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Post by Dogecoin on Oct 15, 2018 16:16:58 GMT -5
QB - but unlike last year this year's draft doesn't seem anywhere nearly as deep at the position. I think we will end up with more wins than other 1-4/5 teams at the moment (colts, cards, raiders), but also don't see them drafting QB either. We could work a deal here
I think it's too soon to say whether we need another LB until we see how Vernon adjusts.
WR is another consideration. Yeah we have highest paid guy, but shepherd doesn't seem like a legit #2. Have to see how engram does when he's back, he's really more of a hybrid anyway.
But really imo we may not have any glaring issues other than QB, and if we trade up for #1 overall I could see us not drafting again until round 3 (or even 4) anyway.
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 15, 2018 16:20:12 GMT -5
Based on preseason and the first game, I think we need to go: OL - OT and G (Fix the right side) LB - We need an athletic linebacker who can cover TE's and RB's DB - Beal plus someone else....Hopefully a rangy FS We also need to sign a damn punt returner. I don't think we have many other pressing needs at starter. The most glaring need is the same as last year....QB. unfortunately thats true just like it was last year, but I see a light at the end of the tunnel for next year because this team wouldn't have the nerve to trot out Eli again next season, would they? |
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