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Post by jaymas on Dec 13, 2020 16:12:48 GMT -5
This is the 3rd straight start for DJ he hasnt thrown a TD pass not including pick 6s for the D (FYI Colt throw one last week). And marks the 7th game of 12 that he has failed to throw a TD pass this season. He is nothing more than an average QB at best. You are obsessed with every single angle and moment to make you potentially right about this guy. Every thread you can, every other post. Just watch a game and root for the team. It's unbelievable. What if the Giants win out and make the playoffs while he plays well? What if they miss and he has a great year next year? What if he plays average, they make the playoffs, but he plays well in the playoffs? What if they miss the playoffs but he has a great year next year? What if he gets injured next year and they stink, but comes back the following year and plays great? What if he never wins enough with the Giants but wins with another team? And what if he flames out totally? All my years on a message board, this one, the old Giants one or the one some of us were a part of for Eli's first superbowl in in 07/08, I've never seen such an obsession with being right about a young player who's likable, by every definition. He's not like screaming at guys in the locker room like Ryan Leaf haha. What fan of a team is so obsessed with being right about a high draft pick that every 6th post is about how they shouldn't have won so they could have had Trevor Lawrence or just completely ignores the countless stories about the story of a QBs career never being decided in year two? What happened to being realistic, but still rooting for a guy? We're in the middle of a season where there's a shot to make the playoffs and the only thing you can ever talk about is every step Daniel Jones takes and why it's a problem. Sounds miserable to me.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2020 16:13:01 GMT -5
I really think the first strip sack of DJ rattled him. Wouldn't be surprised,and not being 100% and not trusting his leg to run He had a lot of real estate out there on a lot of those times he held the ball long
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Post by houndstoothhat on Dec 13, 2020 16:13:13 GMT -5
Everyone likes the Zone D. I don’t.sux
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Post by SG88 on Dec 13, 2020 16:13:16 GMT -5
Riddick with 5 sacks today. Andrew Thomas was abused all game long.. That's scary, as soon as I thought he was turning the corner. You would think that he was Derrick Thomas (RIP).
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Post by nygiantsfan1029 on Dec 13, 2020 16:13:29 GMT -5
They haven't done shit on offense all season long. If they bounce back, it will be because of the defense and a turnover free game on offense. Get some recievers and a full offseason.. Then we can judge Going to suck not being able to interact on here with you for much longer ..you are one of the really knowledgeable ones...sucks I'm about to get run for defending myself from personal attacks by a troll This off-season they need to focus on improving this offense. They definitely need to find a true #1 wr
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Dec 13, 2020 16:13:45 GMT -5
Reddick not even a prolific pass rusher and we’re making him look like prime Von Miller giants put him in the probowl today
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Post by mj312 on Dec 13, 2020 16:14:13 GMT -5
Ok great well back reality .. Jones still stinks , and Thomas looked like his feet were in concrete today .. really glad I didn't apologize for the things I said about gettleman and his crappy picks . To top it off it was perfect karma today that we gave away golden for a 6th round pick and he destroyed us..
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Post by houndstoothhat on Dec 13, 2020 16:14:29 GMT -5
Wonder how the other 3 OTs drafted did? Bad as Thomas
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Dec 13, 2020 16:14:30 GMT -5
In the final minutes of a losing game, this thread has the mental competence of a MAGA rally. Hope nobody left here is driving home, The fact we weren't close to competitive makes me believe the 4 wins were just a mirage. Jones has 8 TDs on the season. What kind of garbage is that?
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Post by allnygin on Dec 13, 2020 16:14:43 GMT -5
That's scary, as soon as I thought he was turning the corner. UFA this offseason Hmmmm You still gotta ride with Thomas next season. Can't give up on a number 5 LT this early, but yikes. Today doesn't look very good, that's for srue.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 13, 2020 16:14:59 GMT -5
Well I said Thomas was doing much better and I also said there were gonna still be some bumps in the road ha had a bumpy road today as with the whole OL. Depending on where they are drafting they need to get some guys here who can separate a lot of these sack besides one by Golden and one by reddeck were coverage sacks.
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Post by Miked1958 on Dec 13, 2020 16:15:29 GMT -5
Terrible O line today to.
Gave up 8 sacks and qbs lost 3 fumbles
I expected them to compete at least today. Not get blown out
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 13, 2020 16:15:36 GMT -5
This is the 3rd straight start for DJ he hasnt thrown a TD pass not including pick 6s for the D (FYI Colt throw one last week). And marks the 7th game of 12 that he has failed to throw a TD pass this season. He is nothing more than an average QB at best. You are obsessed with every single angle and moment to make you potentially right about this guy. Every thread you can, every other post. Just watch a game and root for the team. It's unbelievable. What if the Giants win out and make the playoffs while he plays well? What if they miss and he has a great year next year? What if he plays average, they make the playoffs, but he plays well in the playoffs? What if they miss the playoffs but he has a great year next year? What if he gets injured next year and they stink, but comes back the following year and plays great? What if he never wins enough with the Giants but wins with another team? And what if he flames out totally? All my years on a message board, this one, the old Giants one or the one some of us were a part of for Eli's first superbowl in in 07/08, I've never seen such an obsession with being right about a young player who's likable, by every definition. He's not like screaming at guys in the locker room like Ryan Leaf haha. What fan of a team is so obsessed with being right about a high draft pick that every 6th post is about how they shouldn't have won so they could have had Trevor Lawrence or just completely ignores the countless stories about the story of a QBs career never being decided in year two? What happened to being realistic, but still rooting for a guy? We're in the middle of a season where there's a shot to make the playoffs and the only thing you can ever talk about is every step Daniel Jones takes and why it's a problem. Sounds miserable to me. Ok.
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Post by Miked1958 on Dec 13, 2020 16:17:16 GMT -5
If we somehow make plsyoffs we pick 19th.. might be better at this point to come in 2nd and get some better pics No. We won 4 in a row to screw up getting Lawrence. yep. Now a middle of the road pick
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2020 16:17:22 GMT -5
This is the 3rd straight start for DJ he hasnt thrown a TD pass not including pick 6s for the D (FYI Colt throw one last week). And marks the 7th game of 12 that he has failed to throw a TD pass this season. He is nothing more than an average QB at best. You are obsessed with every single angle and moment to make you potentially right about this guy. Every thread you can, every other post. Just watch a game and root for the team. It's unbelievable. What if the Giants win out and make the playoffs while he plays well? What if they miss and he has a great year next year? What if he plays average, they make the playoffs, but he plays well in the playoffs? What if they miss the playoffs but he has a great year next year? What if he gets injured next year and they stink, but comes back the following year and plays great? What if he never wins enough with the Giants but wins with another team? And what if he flames out totally? All my years on a message board, this one, the old Giants one or the one some of us were a part of for Eli's first superbowl in in 07/08, I've never seen such an obsession with being right about a young player who's likable, by every definition. He's not like screaming at guys in the locker room like Ryan Leaf haha. What fan of a team is so obsessed with being right about a high draft pick that every 6th post is about how they shouldn't have won so they could have had Trevor Lawrence or just completely ignores the countless stories about the story of a QBs career never being decided in year two? What happened to being realistic, but still rooting for a guy? We're in the middle of a season where there's a shot to make the playoffs and the only thing you can ever talk about is every step Daniel Jones takes and why it's a problem. Sounds miserable to me. Its beyond agitating with a large segment of this fan base... Jones is not near a finished product...nor is the offense as a whole Tbe offense got taken to school as a whole and unfortunately was exposed in many of the areas I was screaming about. Recievers not getting seperation made it easier for the Cards to start scheming pass rush the way we were doing knowing our guys wouldn't get open .. . The overreacting as a whole is embarrassing.... I said 5-11 at the beginning of tbe year..so we got to 5 wins earlier than I expected... we can still get 6 or 7 wins.... Offense needs one more offseason and weapons....
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Post by allnygin on Dec 13, 2020 16:17:40 GMT -5
This is the 3rd straight start for DJ he hasnt thrown a TD pass not including pick 6s for the D (FYI Colt throw one last week). And marks the 7th game of 12 that he has failed to throw a TD pass this season. He is nothing more than an average QB at best. You are obsessed with every single angle and moment to make you potentially right about this guy. Every thread you can, every other post. Just watch a game and root for the team. It's unbelievable. What if the Giants win out and make the playoffs while he plays well? What if they miss and he has a great year next year? What if he plays average, they make the playoffs, but he plays well in the playoffs? What if they miss the playoffs but he has a great year next year? What if he gets injured next year and they stink, but comes back the following year and plays great? What if he never wins enough with the Giants but wins with another team? And what if he flames out totally? All my years on a message board, this one, the old Giants one or the one some of us were a part of for Eli's first superbowl in in 07/08, I've never seen such an obsession with being right about a young player who's likable, by every definition. He's not like screaming at guys in the locker room like Ryan Leaf haha. What fan of a team is so obsessed with being right about a high draft pick that every 6th post is about how they shouldn't have won so they could have had Trevor Lawrence or just completely ignores the countless stories about the story of a QBs career never being decided in year two? What happened to being realistic, but still rooting for a guy? We're in the middle of a season where there's a shot to make the playoffs and the only thing you can ever talk about is every step Daniel Jones takes and why it's a problem. Sounds miserable to me. I mean, that's what people do on here. I don't think he or any fan wants to be right about him if they don't feel his a franchise QB, that's ****ing ridiculous. I haven't boughtt into Jones either, and I ahve my concerns, I don't want those to come to furition. I'd much prefer me being wrong, and I'm sure he does as well. That's quite a long winded wall of text to call someone out who doesn't feel optimistic about a QB of a football team he roots for expressing that after an ugly offenssive loss. .
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Dec 13, 2020 16:17:55 GMT -5
This is the 3rd straight start for DJ he hasnt thrown a TD pass not including pick 6s for the D (FYI Colt throw one last week). And marks the 7th game of 12 that he has failed to throw a TD pass this season. He is nothing more than an average QB at best. You are obsessed with every single angle and moment to make you potentially right about this guy. Every thread you can, every other post. Just watch a game and root for the team. It's unbelievable. What if the Giants win out and make the playoffs while he plays well? What if they miss and he has a great year next year? What if he plays average, they make the playoffs, but he plays well in the playoffs? What if they miss the playoffs but he has a great year next year? What if he gets injured next year and they stink, but comes back the following year and plays great? What if he never wins enough with the Giants but wins with another team? And what if he flames out totally? All my years on a message board, this one, the old Giants one or the one some of us were a part of for Eli's first superbowl in in 07/08, I've never seen such an obsession with being right about a young player who's likable, by every definition. He's not like screaming at guys in the locker room like Ryan Leaf haha. What fan of a team is so obsessed with being right about a high draft pick that every 6th post is about how they shouldn't have won so they could have had Trevor Lawrence or just completely ignores the countless stories about the story of a QBs career never being decided in year two? What happened to being realistic, but still rooting for a guy? We're in the middle of a season where there's a shot to make the playoffs and the only thing you can ever talk about is every step Daniel Jones takes and why it's a problem. Sounds miserable to me. Dude, Jones sucks. Who cares how likable he is? Fans like wins. When we don't win, we look at the cause of the loss, and all too many times now it's Daniel Jones (and our O line).
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2020 16:19:42 GMT -5
You still gotta ride with Thomas next season. Can't give up on a number 5 LT this early, but yikes. Today doesn't look very good, that's for srue. One game set back ...not giving up The line as a whole regressed badly all game..those rushing yards were misleading because we got zero push all game tbe easy we were for the last 6 or so games. Its going to happen And yeah Maybe target Reddick in FA
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 13, 2020 16:19:59 GMT -5
We recovered 2 of the 3 Jones fumbled though. POSITIVES Giants defense I know 26 points but the Cardinals started 5 drives on our side of the 50 and won the turnover battle 3-0 as analyst said if we got a couple of those TOs maybe it is a little closer
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Post by myronguyton on Dec 13, 2020 16:20:21 GMT -5
Some fickle fans on this board. This was our second worst loss of the season, and it came at a terrible time, but the Giants are still on the rise, and the defense played pretty well today.
This was the worst game for our coaches all season. Looks like it was a bad idea to start Jones. Based on the play calling, it seems like the coaches probably knew that, so no excuse for letting him go out there. Play calling was atrocious as well, and the special teams continues to struggle. This is a game where you watch the tape, then burn it. Might have to start McCoy next week. Division is still in play, but no room for slip ups.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2020 16:20:58 GMT -5
Giants defense I know 26 points but the Cardinals started 5 drives on our side of the 50 and won the turnover battle 3-0 as analyst said if we got a couple of those TOs maybe it is a little closer How many trips to the red zone did they make Only 2 TDs..... They should have put. 40 plus burger on us...
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2020 16:23:31 GMT -5
Some fickle fans on this board. This was our second worst loss of the season, and it came at a terrible time, but the Giants are still on the rise, and the defense played pretty well today. This was the worst game for our coaches all season. Looks like it was a bad idea to start Jones. Based on the play calling, it seems like the coaches probably knew that, so no excuse for letting him go out there. Play calling was atrocious as well, and the special teams continues to struggle. This is a game where you watch the tape, then burn it. Might have to start McCoy next week. Division is still in play, but no room for slip ups. Special teams now negatively being affected because the core of them are now starting.....meaning they aren't fresh for STs..were taken off and that means practice squad guys are now playing sts... Its not just us....first game I watched at a bar...saw many teams give up returns all day...... With that said we need a legit threat at KR...and to be honest let Petitt do PRs and get him on tbe active roster to see what we have
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Dec 13, 2020 16:23:36 GMT -5
Just don't understand what changed in a week? You go to Seattle and beat them with your back up QB. You did it by running the ball and playing stellar defense. All the talk about punching them in the face... Smash mouth... and then you'd think the same would happen today. You do what works until the team you're playing stops you. Jones shouldn't have been allowed to determine the outcome of this game. Judge should have seen to that. 17 carries for 78 yards as I type this. Over 4.5 yards a carry averaging. Especially if the O-line is struggling in pass protection. Run the ball. Last week we had 32 rushing yards at half time but we stuck to it and got over 190 after the game was over. We gave up on the run, when it was working it seems, before half time. Turn overs and short fields hurt once they went down 13 - 0 they weren't dedicated to the run gam. I'm sure Golden gave them some good insider info they played them like they would have played Eli these guys know how long hamstrings take.
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Post by JoeyCush on Dec 13, 2020 16:24:12 GMT -5
Giants defense I know 26 points but the Cardinals started 5 drives on our side of the 50 and won the turnover battle 3-0 as analyst said if we got a couple of those TOs maybe it is a little closer Yeah I mean the D was put in horrible positions all game and performed good enough for most of them. That first 4th down stand was great. Had we gotten to Kyler more or recovered one or two of those fumbles, would have been somewhat closer of a game. But you need to score and they havent been able to show that the offense can.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2020 16:24:13 GMT -5
Yes we were bad but man the cards did their homework, they literally found every weakness on this team and exploited it in all phases
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Post by GameTime on Dec 13, 2020 16:27:38 GMT -5
out coached out played pick your reasons Bought into the hype I guess I have no defense
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Dec 13, 2020 16:27:39 GMT -5
Yes we were bad but man the cards did their homework, they literally found every weakness on this team and exploited it in all phases Can only give them so much credit for finding weaknesses in our team. Daniel Jones, O-line, and WRs is a pretty simple scouting report. Given the position of most drives, our defense was great with the exception of 1 series. Even the first TD, it was a Kyler Murray prayer that was almost thrown out of bounds. We had it covered. Nothing went the Giants way today.
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Post by McCherry on Dec 13, 2020 16:28:21 GMT -5
In the final minutes of a losing game, this thread has the mental competence of a MAGA rally. Hope nobody left here is driving home, The fact we weren't close to competitive makes me believe the 4 wins were just a mirage. Jones has 8 TDs on the season. What kind of garbage is that? The offense looks exactly like it's run by someone who hasn't run an offense since he was fired 10 years ago.
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2020 16:28:41 GMT -5
Everyone likes the Zone D. I don’t.sux .missing Holmes hurt...
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Post by giantlegacy on Dec 13, 2020 16:29:57 GMT -5
Yes we were bad but man the cards did their homework, they literally found every weakness on this team and exploited it in all phases Can only give them so much credit for finding weaknesses in our team. Daniel Jones, O-line, and WRs is a pretty simple scouting report. Given the position of most drives, our defense was great with the exception of 1 series. Even the first TD, it was a Kyler Murray prayer that was almost thrown out of bounds. We had it covered. Nothing went the Giants way today. Shit happens Young team ..... Learn from it and kick ass the next 3 weeks Playoffs were basicly cake anyway
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