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Post by Roosevelt on Feb 7, 2021 22:14:36 GMT -5
So, are any of these players going to be Giants next season or what?
I'll take White.
Heck, I'd take Brady.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 7, 2021 22:15:18 GMT -5
When a team is short handed guys need to step up and play above the Xs and Os tonight Mahomes did that his teammates didn't. Exactly. That takes nothing away from Tampa either. It’s just a fact. Yup hey they did what they were supposed to Bowles called a great game put pressure all over that OL inside and out, They executed to perfection.
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Post by SG88 on Feb 7, 2021 22:15:49 GMT -5
Devin White is arguably the best LB in the league. People don't realize how LOADED Tampa Bay is. Even a really good player like Suh is an afterthought. I'm very happy for my man JPP. Two rings For sure. Brady knew what he was getting himself into when he went there. That GM did a wonderful job building a team. Absolutely. Brady knew what he was doing when he chose to sign with the Bucs. That team is stacked.
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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 7, 2021 22:16:40 GMT -5
Devin White is arguably the best LB in the league. People don't realize how LOADED Tampa Bay is. Even a really good player like Suh is an afterthought. I'm very happy for my man JPP. Two rings Few even knew who he was before these playoffs. Guy is awesome and went #5 overall. Vita Vea is another stud paired with Suh. Like the old Giants, Bucs have a sick DL although JPP comes off the edge. White in the middle and drop the safeties. As good a defense as there is.
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 7, 2021 22:18:01 GMT -5
Devin White is arguably the best LB in the league. People don't realize how LOADED Tampa Bay is. Even a really good player like Suh is an afterthought. I'm very happy for my man JPP. Two rings For sure. Brady knew what he was getting himself into when he went there. That GM did a wonderful job building a team. Exactly Loaded with playmakers all over the offense A very young (in spots)defense Getting Brady and Wirfs for his right side was a no brOner
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 7, 2021 22:18:35 GMT -5
Offense puts butts in the seats. Defense wins championships..
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Post by finngiant on Feb 7, 2021 22:19:14 GMT -5
Only thing Tom competes for anymore is to have the Vince Lombardi changed to Tom Brady trophy.
Not only did we get to watch him play we beat the greatest of all time twice. Man zi love TC and Eli Manning (and all the others on those teams).
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Post by Roosevelt on Feb 7, 2021 22:19:28 GMT -5
Moral off the story. You need an offensive line and you need pass rushers.
Offensive line depth, yes.
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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 7, 2021 22:20:13 GMT -5
Offense puts butts in the seats. Defense wins championships.. will Gettleman keep the defense lineman free agents? He has too.
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Post by Roosevelt on Feb 7, 2021 22:20:58 GMT -5
CBS can't even conclude the game without ****ing over the post game crew.
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 7, 2021 22:21:17 GMT -5
Only thing Tom competes for anymore is to have the Vince Lombardi changed to Tom Brady trophy. Not only did we get to watch him play we beat the greatest of all time twice. Man zi love TC and Eli Manning (and all the others on those teams). We’re the only defense that really gave him fits. And like Eli said, Brady is still bothered by that ‘07 season. 18 wins. 1 Giants loss..
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Post by GameTime on Feb 7, 2021 22:21:25 GMT -5
even a great QB like Mahomes needs an OL..
wow who would have thought.?
I was under the impression only the Giants QBs need more weapons and a good OL to succeed...
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 7, 2021 22:23:03 GMT -5
Moral off the story. You need an offensive line and you need pass rushers. In other words, the fundamental basics of football. Blocking and tackling.
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 7, 2021 22:23:03 GMT -5
Offense puts butts in the seats. Defense wins championships.. will Gettleman keep the defense lineman free agents? He has too. I hope he watched this game. That Bucs defense is what we need. Edge rushers, great linebackers and a secondary that doesn’t make much mistakes. Knowing Dave, he fell asleep to I Love Lucy reruns.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 7, 2021 22:23:51 GMT -5
Devin White is arguably the best LB in the league. People don't realize how LOADED Tampa Bay is. Even a really good player like Suh is an afterthought. I'm very happy for my man JPP. Two rings They have been stacking this team for years all the way back to 2014 when they drafted Evans. It took a while but they struck while the iron was hot signing Brady and Gronk and Suh. drafting White then Wirfs to add to the final pieces to the offense and defense.
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 7, 2021 22:24:42 GMT -5
even a great QB like Mahomes needs an OL.. wow who would have thought.? I was under the impression only the Giants QBs need more weapons and a good OL to succeed... Now you sound like Tony Romo..
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 7, 2021 22:24:56 GMT -5
So, are any of these players going to be Giants next season or what? I can't imagine Godwin being too thrilled with his role since the Bucs signed Brown.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Feb 7, 2021 22:25:31 GMT -5
Only thing Tom competes for anymore is to have the Vince Lombardi changed to Tom Brady trophy. Not only did we get to watch him play we beat the greatest of all time twice. Man zi love TC and Eli Manning (and all the others on those teams). We’re the only defense that really gave him fits. And like Eli said, Brady is still bothered by that ‘07 season. 18 wins. 1 Giants loss.. well Eli also said he thought he was on bradys level, so id take that with a grain of salt
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 7, 2021 22:26:23 GMT -5
Moral off the story. You need an offensive line and you need pass rushers.
Offensive line depth, yes.
Find me a team in the salary cap era that has 2 backup OTs that would be able to withstand that kind of defensive pass rush firepower in the playoffs or a Super Bowl? This was a freakish and unfortunate bad perfect storm to happen to them on their O line Having even one quality backup on the online tbese days is a minor miracle
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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 7, 2021 22:26:58 GMT -5
will Gettleman keep the defense lineman free agents? He has too. I hope he watched this game. That Bucs defense is what we need. Edge rushers, great linebackers and a secondary that doesn’t make much mistakes. Knowing Dave, he fell asleep to I Love Lucy reruns. Well, Gettleman has the linemen. That’s set. It’s yet another step back if he loses either. He has his version of Vea and Suh. Get a pass rusher and make sure RT is set. I see too many mock drafts going TE. F-that. A new TE or Engram who can catch is not the difference IMO.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Feb 7, 2021 22:28:50 GMT -5
gettleman - {if want i saw during the superbowl was not a mirage , and i dont think it was , Brady has years left }
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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 7, 2021 22:30:56 GMT -5
CBS can't even conclude the game without ****ing over the post game crew. lol - i can’t hear you lol. At least Romo didn’t go to the podium and vomit. He would have dropped the trophy handoff too.
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Post by DandyDon on Feb 7, 2021 22:34:30 GMT -5
Offense puts butts in the seats. Defense wins championships.. Yup.
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Post by botton365 on Feb 7, 2021 22:34:50 GMT -5
Did I just see Kevin Youkilis in the owners suite? He's Tom Brady's BIL.
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 7, 2021 22:35:05 GMT -5
I hope he watched this game. That Bucs defense is what we need. Edge rushers, great linebackers and a secondary that doesn’t make much mistakes. Knowing Dave, he fell asleep to I Love Lucy reruns. Well, Gettleman has the linemen. That’s set. It’s yet another step back if he loses either. He has his version of Vea and Suh. Get a pass rusher and make sure RT is set. I see too many mock drafts going TE. F-that. A new TE or Engram who can catch is not the difference IMO. I’m one of the few who doesn’t see both players being retained. Unless Gettleman has a lucky rabbits foot up his ass I find it very difficult to keep Williams and Tomlinson. If we want to compete with the better teams, we have to get an edge rusher. Thinking we can get by with scotch tape at the position isn’t going to work. I don’t want Pitts, he will be good pro. But, we have other positions to be addressed.
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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 7, 2021 22:38:48 GMT -5
Well, Gettleman has the linemen. That’s set. It’s yet another step back if he loses either. He has his version of Vea and Suh. Get a pass rusher and make sure RT is set. I see too many mock drafts going TE. F-that. A new TE or Engram who can catch is not the difference IMO. I’m one of the few who doesn’t see both players being retained. Unless Gettleman has a lucky rabbits foot up his ass I find it very difficult to keep Williams and Tomlinson. If we want to compete with the better teams, we have to get an edge rusher. Thinking we can get by with scotch tape at the position isn’t going to work. I don’t want Pitts, he will be good pro. But, we have other positions to be addressed. With so much cap room in 21/22 i have no idea why he can’t make it work. Draft a pass rusher at #1 and have the kid come off the corner. Losing any Dlineman i think is another step back. They’ll be 6-10 again.
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Post by Kruunch on Feb 7, 2021 22:42:48 GMT -5
I’m one of the few who doesn’t see both players being retained. Unless Gettleman has a lucky rabbits foot up his ass I find it very difficult to keep Williams and Tomlinson. If we want to compete with the better teams, we have to get an edge rusher. Thinking we can get by with scotch tape at the position isn’t going to work. I don’t want Pitts, he will be good pro. But, we have other positions to be addressed. With so much cap room in 21/22 i have no idea why he can’t make it work. Draft a pass rusher at #1 and have the kid come off the corner. Losing any Dlineman i think is another step back. They’ll be 6-10 again. I have to see the numbers with our cap. One day we’re way under the cap, the next we are only a few million under.
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Post by giantlegacy on Feb 7, 2021 22:42:56 GMT -5
Offense puts butts in the seats. Defense wins championships.. Offense also scores points,dictates game flow and makes the defenses job much easier by scoring enough points and holding the ball to make the opponent one dimensional Bucs have a well balanced team in all facets ... They did exactly what I thought they would do on offense being balanced,forcd KC to have to defend the entire field with the threat of Godwin and Adams and allowed the underneath to be exploited all night and be run on. Can't have one without the other being really good either. We are close with the defense Need to really use as much major assets (draft preferred)on offense to catch up
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Post by Roosevelt on Feb 7, 2021 22:43:19 GMT -5
Offensive line depth, yes.
Find me a team in the salary cap era that has 2 backup OTs that would be able to withstand that kind of defensive pass rush firepower in the playoffs or a Super Bowl? This was a freakish and unfortunate bad perfect storm to happen to them on their O line Having even one quality backup on the online tbese days is a minor miracle
The point being that injuries factored into the outcome.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2021 22:43:36 GMT -5
So, instead of all trying to become the Chiefs on offense, silly in concept...should we not design a team to... stop them?
Chiefs lacking their talent on OL, especially at tackle was evident ...with a gimpy toed Mahomes, not a good combo against that defensive speed on Tampa.
Defense won that championship - that and a been there, done that Brady.
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