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Post by rbe40 on Mar 30, 2021 17:06:30 GMT -5
1) Jags - Trevor Lawrence 2) Jets - Zach Wilson 3) 49ers - Trey Lance 4) Falcons - ??
This is a such a mystery to me.
- Fields doesn't fit Atlanta at all - Fields played in the Shotgun at OSU; Falcons HC Arthur Smith utilizes a QB-under-center play-action running game, which Fields has 0 experience.
- Falcons passed on Ceedee Lamb last year for AJ Terrell (HORRIBLE decision, always take the BPA, they reached for Need). Would it make sense for them to draft a WR this year? I don't think so.
- The positional value of drafting a Non-Blocking TE (Pitts) at #4 seems way too rich.
- They just drafted two 1st round O-Linemen in 2019, and have a Franchise LT in Jake Matthews. O-Line (Penei Sewell) doesn't make much sense here.
So really, the Falcons are screwed here. They're in a terrible spot. Falcons are the biggest losers of the Dolphins-49ers-Eagles trade because they miss out on Trey Lance at 4 - Lance is going to the 49ers at 3. Falcons would have taken Lance at 4 if the Dolphins picked a Non-QB at 3.
What do the Falcons do with the 4th overall pick? This is where the draft starts.
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Post by TEM on Mar 30, 2021 17:36:48 GMT -5
Trade their pick to the Giants for Nate Wieting
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 17:47:57 GMT -5
In my working mock I have them getting Sewell.
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Post by Kruunch on Mar 30, 2021 18:01:40 GMT -5
The Falcons defense was awful last year. They were at the bottom of the league with only 29 sacks. And they couldn’t cover anyone either. They were so bad they gave up over two miles in yards. So, defense has to be their choice.
I’m going with Kwitty Paye or Patrick Surtain II. Two positions that fill needs.
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 30, 2021 18:04:15 GMT -5
What makes Pitts a "non blocking TE"??
Dude can block just fine. I don't know where this narrative is coming from. Yes, blocking isn't his best attribute, actually it may be his worst, but that doesn't mean he isn't good at it, it just means he's THAT good elsewhere
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Post by TCHOF on Mar 30, 2021 18:05:09 GMT -5
QB or trade back
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 18:12:49 GMT -5
They were also 27th in rushing.
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Post by Kruunch on Mar 30, 2021 18:14:43 GMT -5
What makes Pitts a "non blocking TE"?? Dude can block just fine. I don't know where this narrative is coming from. Yes, blocking isn't his best attribute, actually it may be his worst, but that doesn't mean he isn't good at it, it just means he's THAT good elsewhere Let me get this straight. His blocking isn’t his best attribute, matter of fact it’s his worst. But then again, it doesn’t mean he’s bad at it? Am I getting this right? It’s like saying Evan Engram has an issue dropping passes, but his hands are very good.. I don’t think Pitts is getting out of the top 8. His talent is too overwhelming to ignore.
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Post by Kase1 on Mar 30, 2021 18:18:24 GMT -5
What makes Pitts a "non blocking TE"?? Dude can block just fine. I don't know where this narrative is coming from. Yes, blocking isn't his best attribute, actually it may be his worst, but that doesn't mean he isn't good at it, it just means he's THAT good elsewhere Let me get this straight. His blocking isn’t his best attribute, matter of fact it’s his worst. But then again, it doesn’t mean he’s bad at it? Am I getting this right? It’s like saying Evan Engram has an issue dropping passes, but his hands are very good.. I don’t think Pitts is getting out of the top 8. His talent is too overwhelming to ignore. Yes He's THAT good of a prospect that even his worst attribute is above par Unlike what your Engram analogy is hinting at
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 30, 2021 18:41:40 GMT -5
The Falcons defense was awful last year. They were at the bottom of the league with only 29 sacks. And they couldn’t cover anyone either. They were so bad they gave up over two miles in yards. So, defense has to be their choice. I’m going with Kwitty Paye or Patrick Surtain II. Two positions that fill needs. Falcons have been trying to fix their defense since the Gritz Blitz days Parsons
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Post by Kruunch on Mar 30, 2021 18:45:19 GMT -5
The Falcons defense was awful last year. They were at the bottom of the league with only 29 sacks. And they couldn’t cover anyone either. They were so bad they gave up over two miles in yards. So, defense has to be their choice. I’m going with Kwitty Paye or Patrick Surtain II. Two positions that fill needs. Falcons have been trying to fix their defense since the Gritz Blitz days Parsons They’ve been trying to fix their defense since the Beatles broke up.
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 30, 2021 19:04:25 GMT -5
Falcons have been trying to fix their defense since the Gritz Blitz days Parsons They’ve been trying to fix their defense since the Beatles broke up. They actually were known for their defense in the late 70s into 1980 Set a single season record for fewest points against in 1977(like 129...will never be broken) Of course they basically were the reason for the rule changes in 1978 because it was litterally a punt block style all out blitz on every play and mug the recievers all tbe way down tbe field because it was legal back then to do this
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Post by Kruunch on Mar 30, 2021 19:11:14 GMT -5
They’ve been trying to fix their defense since the Beatles broke up. They actually were known for their defense in the late 70s into 1980 Set a single season record for fewest points against in 1977(like 129...will never be broken) Of course they basically were the reason for the rule changes in 1978 because it was litterally a punt block style all out blitz on every play and mug the recievers all tbe way down tbe field because it was legal back then to do this They should be called “The unknown defense.” To be that good, and yet no one ever talks about them in the history of the NFL.
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Post by JoeyCush on Mar 30, 2021 19:16:02 GMT -5
A lot of mocks I see have them going QB. Not sure who they would want to replace Matt Ryan, who will be 36 in May, but I dont feel like he has lost a step yet. Maybe I havent seen enough Falcon's games to make that assessment.
For the people who want a WR drafted here, just hope that Atlanta goes D and that Mac Jones/Trey Lance both make the top 10.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 30, 2021 20:07:20 GMT -5
Could do the smart thing and trade for Danny Shelton who they missed out on or draft Mac Jones
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 30, 2021 20:21:38 GMT -5
1) Jags - Trevor Lawrence 2) Jets - Zach Wilson 3) 49ers - Trey Lance 4) Falcons - ?? This is a such a mystery to me. - Fields doesn't fit Atlanta at all - Fields played in the Shotgun at OSU; Falcons HC Arthur Smith utilizes a QB-under-center play-action running game, which Fields has 0 experience. - Falcons passed on Ceedee Lamb last year for AJ Terrell (HORRIBLE decision, always take the BPA, they reached for Need). Would it make sense for them to draft a WR this year? I don't think so. - The positional value of drafting a Non-Blocking TE (Pitts) at #4 seems way too rich. - They just drafted two 1st round O-Linemen in 2019, and have a Franchise LT in Jake Matthews. O-Line (Penei Sewell) doesn't make much sense here. So really, the Falcons are screwed here. They're in a terrible spot. Falcons are the biggest losers of the Dolphins-49ers-Eagles trade because they miss out on Trey Lance at 4 - Lance is going to the 49ers at 3. Falcons would have taken Lance at 4 if the Dolphins picked a Non-QB at 3. What do the Falcons do with the 4th overall pick? This is where the draft starts. Excellent synopsis. Atlanta needs to wait till draft day and make sure positively that their QB was taken ahead of them. But I would try and have a deal ready to go with Denver at #9. Carolina at #7 probably not moving up now after the Miami - 49er trade. Plus who wants to trade with a team from your own division. And Carolina they get the 4th QB right now just staying where they are. I understand that Ryan's contract goes for another 3 years. What are they sitting a QB they take with the 4th pick for 2 years ? If I'm them I try and trade back as far as I can and take the RB from Bama Nadji Harris. I would say Atlanta at #4, Detroit at #7, and even Denver at #9 are the wild cards as long as there is 1 of the top 5 QB's. There are rumors that the 49ers like Mac Jones which would set everything in motion again possibly.
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 31, 2021 7:13:20 GMT -5
I could see the 9ers taking Jones (lots of talk of this on various football shows), not Lance, and the Falcons taking Lance at 4. That would be a pretty historic run on QBs!! If not, I think they do need help at receiver, so Chase or Pitts could be in play for them. Hopefully they take a QB or reach for a defensive player.
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Post by JoeyCush on Mar 31, 2021 7:51:13 GMT -5
1) Jags - Trevor Lawrence 2) Jets - Zach Wilson 3) 49ers - Trey Lance 4) Falcons - ?? This is a such a mystery to me. - Fields doesn't fit Atlanta at all - Fields played in the Shotgun at OSU; Falcons HC Arthur Smith utilizes a QB-under-center play-action running game, which Fields has 0 experience. - Falcons passed on Ceedee Lamb last year for AJ Terrell (HORRIBLE decision, always take the BPA, they reached for Need). Would it make sense for them to draft a WR this year? I don't think so. - The positional value of drafting a Non-Blocking TE (Pitts) at #4 seems way too rich. - They just drafted two 1st round O-Linemen in 2019, and have a Franchise LT in Jake Matthews. O-Line (Penei Sewell) doesn't make much sense here. So really, the Falcons are screwed here. They're in a terrible spot. Falcons are the biggest losers of the Dolphins-49ers-Eagles trade because they miss out on Trey Lance at 4 - Lance is going to the 49ers at 3. Falcons would have taken Lance at 4 if the Dolphins picked a Non-QB at 3. What do the Falcons do with the 4th overall pick? This is where the draft starts. Excellent synopsis. Atlanta needs to wait till draft day and make sure positively that their QB was taken ahead of them. But I would try and have a deal ready to go with Denver at #9. Carolina at #7 probably not moving up now after the Miami - 49er trade. Plus who wants to trade with a team from your own division. And Carolina they get the 4th QB right now just staying where they are. I understand that Ryan's contract goes for another 3 years. What are they sitting a QB they take with the 4th pick for 2 years ? If I'm them I try and trade back as far as I can and take the RB from Bama Nadji Harris. I would say Atlanta at #4, Detroit at #7, and even Denver at #9 are the wild cards as long as there is 1 of the top 5 QB's. There are rumors that the 49ers like Mac Brown which would set everything in motion again possibly. I've been thinking since last month that #7 spot is the sweet spot if anybody wants to trade up for a QB, jumping over Carolina at 8. If New England, Chicago, Washington or had San Fran (prior to the trade up to 3) wanted to move up, that would be an ideal spot. This is going to be a really wild draft. Not much is set in stone other than Trevor Lawrence at 1 and there could be some movement in the top 10.
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 31, 2021 8:26:11 GMT -5
I could see the 9ers taking Jones (lots of talk of this on various football shows), not Lance, and the Falcons taking Lance at 4. That would be a pretty historic run on QBs!! If not, I think they do need help at receiver, so Chase or Pitts could be in play for them. Hopefully they take a QB or reach for a defensive player. If they are comfortable witb Parsons' issues he really wouldn't be a reach at 4 TBH with how bad their defense is I've seen mocks though with them badly reaching for Paye....with a very ambiguous year with big boards who knows what a reach is this rear
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Post by rbe40 on Mar 31, 2021 8:34:39 GMT -5
I could see the 9ers taking Jones (lots of talk of this on various football shows), not Lance, and the Falcons taking Lance at 4. That would be a pretty historic run on QBs!! If not, I think they do need help at receiver, so Chase or Pitts could be in play for them. Hopefully they take a QB or reach for a defensive player. Stop. Are you that easily manipulated by the media? C'mon man. 9ers are taking Lance. They made the trade last Friday. Only Lance's Pro Day had happened at the time of the trade. Fields and Mac Jones had their Pro Days just yesterday. Why would the 9ers trade all the way up to 3 to take a QB just days before Fields/Jones Pro Days? Makes 0 sense. Of course they're taking Lance - they had already seen his Pro Day, and know they want him. Kyle Shanahan Base Offense = QB lines up Under Center, Play-Action running game (Falcons HC Arthur Smith comes from Tennessee with Derrick Henry; same philosophy) Trey Lance lined up under center in a run-heavy offense, doing all the bootlegs that Shanahan likes. He is the perfect fit for Shanahan's offense. The media is just trying to make a story out of nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 8:40:05 GMT -5
QB...and ask the Jets if they are keeping Sam and would be interested in a trade to secure their guy.
Not often to you pick top 4 and have a back 9 QB...
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Post by te88 on Apr 7, 2021 6:11:40 GMT -5
Definitely the hardest to pin down in the top 10. Apparently they’re open to trade down but does anyone who wants a QB actually have the ammunition to move all the way to 4? Doesn’t seem like it unless Denver is ready to pull the rip cord on Lock.
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Post by IrishMike on Apr 8, 2021 20:35:46 GMT -5
This is the tough call to make. I think it'll be tough to trade out of that spot honestly. I could see them going Mac Jones if they think the kid is legit. I think he's better than Tua so who knows what they think. I doubt it's WR. I could easily see them going with Pitts though. Adding him to Jones, Ridley and Hurst for Matt Ryans last run would be a smart move.
Also their D is horrible but there is no stud pass rusher in the draft so I think Surtain would make the most sense. CB is one of the most drafted positions in the top 5 picks.
My official prediction if they don't like Jones is Pitts. This team has to score and give Ryan one last chance before stripping things down and starting the rebuild.
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