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Post by 3days on May 19, 2021 20:25:55 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 6:13:35 GMT -5
For what purpose does this serve though? So they can see what we got? We’re trying to win this year, not telegraph our moves. No.
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Post by GameTime on May 20, 2021 6:27:35 GMT -5
For what purpose does this serve though? So they can see what we got? We’re trying to win this year, not telegraph our moves. No. I guess the both Belichick and Judge are not aware of this. Thats is not an issue at all. They dont play the Pats anyway other than preseason. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2021 8:18:43 GMT -5
For what purpose does this serve though? So they can see what we got? We’re trying to win this year, not telegraph our moves. No. I guess the both Belichick and Judge are not aware of this. Thats is not an issue at all. They dont play the Pats anyway other than preseason. Yep... teams use the same generic x and o's for 80% of their play calling on both sides of the ball all season long...at this early point they are trying to get fundamentally sound in the basics...not run advanced formations and exotic disguised blitzes. This aint even the pre season game...gonna be non violent and non revealing If we see the Patriots again after the 3rd pre season game, I'm quite certain we'll be using and inventing more of our playbook in those 2 weeks leading up the superbowl....  |
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Post by giantlegacy on May 20, 2021 9:20:19 GMT -5
I guess the both Belichick and Judge are not aware of this. Thats is not an issue at all. They dont play the Pats anyway other than preseason. Yep... teams use the same generic x and o's for 80% of their play calling on both sides of the ball all season long...at this early point they are trying to get fundamentally sound in the basics...not run advanced formations and exotic disguised blitzes. This aint even the pre season game...gonna be non violent and non revealing If we see the Patriots again after the 3rd pre season game, I'm quite certain we'll be using and inventing more of our playbook in those 2 weeks leading up the superbowl.... Like Gilbride brilliantly did the 2nd time (where he arrogantly told T Rock and Kirwin they won't be installing their game plan till after the first 15 scripted plays and they had 3 different game plans to install depending on what Belichick decided to take away... tbe beauty of the Erheart/Perkins system being that they can switch the option route trees between recievers no matter where they lined up.. The first game plan was Cruz and Nicks swapping option routes trees while still lining up where they were and then adding in plan 3 witb Hynoski and the TEs getting major roles..) |
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Post by giantlegacy on May 20, 2021 9:23:09 GMT -5
For what purpose does this serve though? So they can see what we got? We’re trying to win this year, not telegraph our moves. No. I guess the both Belichick and Judge are not aware of this. Thats is not an issue at all. They dont play the Pats anyway other than preseason. It's like a hidden pre season game in a way in that you are facing a different opponent on both sides of the ball Belicheck always loved these kinds of practices...very predictable we would he joining him |
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Post by TEM on May 20, 2021 9:26:31 GMT -5
Apparently "Covid" as it pertains to player's offseason safety is not as big of a concern as the union portrays it to be. I d not get how practicing in May with your own teammates is a safety hazard but in August against an entire diffrent team is not.
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Post by GameTime on May 20, 2021 9:28:12 GMT -5
Apparently "Covid" as it pertains to player's offseason safety is not as big of a concern as they portray it to be. the NFLPA will use any measure they can to have their players work less and get paid more |
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Post by TEM on May 20, 2021 9:29:41 GMT -5
Apparently "Covid" as it pertains to player's offseason safety is not as big of a concern as they portray it to be. the NFLPA will use any measure they can to have their players work less and get paid more Why I call being lazy the main influence. |
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Post by GameTime on May 20, 2021 9:34:47 GMT -5
the NFLPA will use any measure they can to have their players work less and get paid more Why I call being lazy the main influence. and Unions cultivate it if Judge gave them a push or some type of "get your ass in here" speech they would show up in better numbers IMO |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 20, 2021 11:15:52 GMT -5
For what purpose does this serve though? So they can see what we got? We’re trying to win this year, not telegraph our moves. No. This type of practice is as or more beneficial then a preseason game, it allows them to have game type conditions but be able to stop it and make correction wether it is assignments or technique or both as soon as the play ends, also gives them game tape to make corrections off of later that night when they are going over it. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 20, 2021 11:18:23 GMT -5
I guess the both Belichick and Judge are not aware of this. Thats is not an issue at all. They dont play the Pats anyway other than preseason. It's like a hidden pre season game in a way in that you are facing a different opponent on both sides of the ball Belicheck always loved these kinds of practices...very predictable we would he joining him They are excellent teaching tools can make corrections in real time and then review on tape later. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 20, 2021 11:40:33 GMT -5
Apparently "Covid" as it pertains to player's offseason safety is not as big of a concern as the union portrays it to be. I d not get how practicing in May with your own teammates is a safety hazard but in August against an entire diffrent team is not. I think the union will do what ever it takes to make players have less to do and get payed more. They don't care they are catering to a bunch of 20 somethings less work more money probably sounds real good to them. My only concern is with the Giants, really season ended months ago what better can you be doing with your time then working on your craft especially our OL. Covid is more valid then some think, but much more is known now, they can practice safely and get treatment quickly if anything were to happen. The Giants RB they sign from the Jag had 2 separate bouts with covid and was hospitalized both times in August and September last year Hernandez I still believe was not fully recovered last year. I think it's a lame attempt and excuse not to be there the union is pushing for nothing but training camp 0 preseason 0 mandatory camps so that is their goal. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on May 20, 2021 11:48:59 GMT -5
This is good extra practice/scrimmage. We need all the work we can get, It can only help. Judge and Belechek have done a 1,000 practices together. I'm surprised Saben won't be there with his Alabama Crimson Tide.
Seriously it's extra practice for us we need the work. This is a good thing.
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Post by TEM on May 20, 2021 12:22:52 GMT -5
Apparently "Covid" as it pertains to player's offseason safety is not as big of a concern as the union portrays it to be. I d not get how practicing in May with your own teammates is a safety hazard but in August against an entire diffrent team is not. I think the union will do what ever it takes to make players have less to do and get payed more. They don't care they are catering to a bunch of 20 somethings less work more money probably sounds real good to them. My only concern is with the Giants, really season ended months ago what better can you be doing with your time then working on your craft especially our OL. Covid is more valid then some think, but much more is known now, they can practice safely and get treatment quickly if anything were to happen. The Giants RB they sign from the Jag had 2 separate bouts with covid and was hospitalized both times in August and September last year Hernandez I still believe was not fully recovered last year. I think it's a lame attempt and excuse not to be there the union is pushing for nothing but training camp 0 preseason 0 mandatory camps so that is their goal. I agree to some extent. If I have to take my chances and go to work (I had it twice also). I make pennies on the dollar to what they make. This is my problem with entertainers in general. They expect their fans to be held to " this standard" so they can maintain "their standard". What would they do if we all followed what they do. So you employer can't pay you because of lack of output. Because everyone refuse to come to work due to "safety concerns with covid" So that creates a cascade affect on the economy . That cause an individual's disposable income budget for entertainment to evaporate. So when they refuse to do what I have to do everyday. Is all I smell is BS. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on May 20, 2021 13:20:30 GMT -5
As long as the Pats don't invite their video crew
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Post by GameTime on May 20, 2021 14:19:32 GMT -5
As long as the Pats don't invite their video crew ha ha.... |
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Post by idkaname on May 20, 2021 15:43:21 GMT -5
As long as the Pats don't invite their video crew I heard the balls will be half way inflated to improve Jones’ grip... |
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Post by njsean on May 20, 2021 18:07:44 GMT -5
Why I call being lazy the main influence. and Unions cultivate it if Judge gave them a push or some type of "get your ass in here" speech they would show up in better numbers IMO Don’t know how broadly you’re applying the union criticism beyond the NFLPA. Worked in a union my whole career. Never put in a lazy day’s work. But also never felt exploited or taken advantage of. It’s nice having a group backing you up. |
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Post by GameTime on May 21, 2021 5:18:22 GMT -5
and Unions cultivate it if Judge gave them a push or some type of "get your ass in here" speech they would show up in better numbers IMO Don’t know how broadly you’re applying the union criticism beyond the NFLPA. Worked in a union my whole career. Never put in a lazy day’s work. But also never felt exploited or taken advantage of. It’s nice having a group backing you up. Yes.....unions are there to back you up, protect help you square away a good retirement. I am admittedly biased against unions because I have seen the negative side. I was in two a long time ago and have worked with companies that had them throughout my career. As individuals we all have our own work ethic and I applaud you for yours. My statement may be misplaced. |
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Post by Jomo on May 21, 2021 10:33:26 GMT -5
It is good to work against different personnel, different looks etc.
I've got no problem with it.
The coaches just have to control the heat of the moment stuff that happens more often with these types of inter-squad practice.
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Post by Martin on May 21, 2021 10:43:02 GMT -5
It is good to work against different personnel, different looks etc. I've got no problem with it. The coaches just have to control the heat of the moment stuff that happens more often with these types of inter-squad practice. I think its good too and it has a feel of a real game even though it's not. Someone on the board was worried about having the Patriots know our early play book Lol. I believe that will evolve over the course of the season. What's funny is the old Packers would run the Lombardi Sweep and the opposing team knew they were gonna run it but couldn't stop it. Execution!  |
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Post by trueblueatnyc on May 21, 2021 14:04:43 GMT -5
This makes a lot of sense for them to do considering they'll have 1 less pre-season game and very limited activities before training camp.
It looks like the Colts worked out something that works for the players as they seem to be holding a two-week long voluntary mini-camp earlier in the calendar and then giving their players 8 weeks off before the start of training camp.
I think a lot of players, particularly vets, don't see much value in OTAs and mini-camps.
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Post by giantlegacy on May 21, 2021 14:20:17 GMT -5
It is good to work against different personnel, different looks etc. I've got no problem with it. The coaches just have to control the heat of the moment stuff that happens more often with these types of inter-squad practice. I think its good too and it has a feel of a real game even though it's not. Someone on the board was worried about having the Patriots know our early play book Lol. I believe that will evolve over the course of the season. What's funny is the old Packers would run the Lombardi Sweep and the opposing team knew they were gonna run it but couldn't stop it. Execution! Different game back then and even Different when Dallas litterally had 40 plays in the playbook as those teams had their entire Oine together for a very long time... |
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Post by TEM on May 21, 2021 14:32:32 GMT -5
It is good to work against different personnel, different looks etc. I've got no problem with it. The coaches just have to control the heat of the moment stuff that happens more often with these types of inter-squad practice. I think its good too and it has a feel of a real game even though it's not. Someone on the board was worried about having the Patriots know our early play book Lol. I believe that will evolve over the course of the season. What's funny is the old Packers would run the Lombardi Sweep and the opposing team knew they were gonna run it but couldn't stop it. Execution! It is rumored. BB has over 1000 plays in his book. I think at this point in his career he has an understanding of all of his opponents play books? I would not be surprised if Pete Carol has the same understanding of what play is being ran when he watches opposition film when he is game preparing . |
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Post by Jomo on May 21, 2021 15:53:04 GMT -5
It is good to work against different personnel, different looks etc. I've got no problem with it. The coaches just have to control the heat of the moment stuff that happens more often with these types of inter-squad practice. I think its good too and it has a feel of a real game even though it's not. Someone on the board was worried about having the Patriots know our early play book Lol. I believe that will evolve over the course of the season. What's funny is the old Packers would run the Lombardi Sweep and the opposing team knew they were gonna run it but couldn't stop it. Execution! Ahhhh, sweet execution. Maybe we'll move the needle on that front this year. |
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Post by giantsalmon on May 23, 2021 20:40:43 GMT -5
I think its good too and it has a feel of a real game even though it's not. Someone on the board was worried about having the Patriots know our early play book Lol. I believe that will evolve over the course of the season. What's funny is the old Packers would run the Lombardi Sweep and the opposing team knew they were gonna run it but couldn't stop it. Execution! Ahhhh, sweet execution. Maybe we'll move the needle on that front this year. How sweet it could be--should be--on paper. I've been a supporter of Jones but if Garrett and the O line aren't grossly incompetent than it will all come down to him. I hope he can shoulder that pressure--which will be greater than any pass rush he has stood tall under. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 10:39:56 GMT -5
Great way to break up the monotony of going against the same guy everyday. These practices help our OL/DL the most by going against different size guys with different strength.
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