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Post by giantlegacy on May 26, 2021 14:15:28 GMT -5
So it makes things a bit easier to extend some players it looks like next year
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 26, 2021 14:20:28 GMT -5
So it makes things a bit easier to extend some players it looks like next year This is what the Giants were banking on when they went wild this year. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on May 26, 2021 15:09:03 GMT -5
Players salaries are about to explode.
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Post by IrishMike on May 26, 2021 17:29:26 GMT -5
And just like that, all the Giants players signed in 2021 were steals.
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Post by imgrate on May 26, 2021 18:57:02 GMT -5
So it makes things a bit easier to extend some players it looks like next year Thread title a bit misleading, though, the cap will raise at most 30mill not at least. |
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Post by jb456 on May 26, 2021 20:48:56 GMT -5
And just like that, all the Giants players signed in 2021 were steals. Exactly. Also, 2023 will be $225M, and 2024 will be $256M. There is a mountain of cash coming the players way... |
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Post by IrishMike on May 26, 2021 21:00:45 GMT -5
And just like that, all the Giants players signed in 2021 were steals. Exactly. Also, 2023 will be $225M, and 2024 will be $256M. There is a mountain of cash coming the players way... So you are saying Gettleman was able to make a smart decision by looking at more than what was an inch in front of his face? Like he has some forethought, unlike the haters and talking heads? Odd. |
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Post by IrishMike on May 26, 2021 21:01:38 GMT -5
Exactly. Also, 2023 will be $225M, and 2024 will be $256M. There is a mountain of cash coming the players way... So you are saying Gettleman was able to make a smart decision by looking at more than what was an inch in front of his face? Like he has some forethought, unlike the haters and talking heads? Odd. "Well it was a good decision so I think you mean Joe Judge make a smart decision."
I posted it for you (you know who you are).
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Post by jb456 on May 26, 2021 21:19:05 GMT -5
Exactly. Also, 2023 will be $225M, and 2024 will be $256M. There is a mountain of cash coming the players way... So you are saying Gettleman was able to make a smart decision by looking at more than what was an inch in front of his face? Like he has some forethought, unlike the haters and talking heads? Odd. I don't love DG but he has had his good moments, this is one of them. Im surprised a lot of teams weren't spending this offseason when the cap was 182M and now will be spending when the cap is 209M and have to spend more. Also, its going up and up so the Giants will be plenty to work with in 2023 and beyond.... |
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Post by Fletch842 on May 27, 2021 6:11:20 GMT -5
And just like that, all the Giants players signed in 2021 were steals. Exactly. Also, 2023 will be $225M, and 2024 will be $256M. There is a mountain of cash coming the players way... and since it's based on revenue, the owners will be seeing their own mountain as well, no worries on that front!!  |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 6:14:26 GMT -5
This sure is bringing the getty lovers out!
Hope you all ENJOY this moment but the only important one is at the end of the season!!
You know when the team has a good record and not some off season claim to fame which is nothing but premature jockulation..
GO GIANTS!!
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 6:15:39 GMT -5
So you are saying Gettleman was able to make a smart decision by looking at more than what was an inch in front of his face? Like he has some forethought, unlike the haters and talking heads? Odd. I don't love DG but he has had his good moments, this is one of them. Im surprised a lot of teams weren't spending this offseason when the cap was 182M and now will be spending when the cap is 209M and have to spend more. Also, its going up and up so the Giants will be plenty to work with in 2023 and beyond....So will the other 31 teams.. Just saying. |
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Post by jb456 on May 27, 2021 7:34:49 GMT -5
I don't love DG but he has had his good moments, this is one of them. Im surprised a lot of teams weren't spending this offseason when the cap was 182M and now will be spending when the cap is 209M and have to spend more. Also, its going up and up so the Giants will be plenty to work with in 2023 and beyond....So will the other 31 teams.. Just saying. Absolutely, everyone will be on the same playing field. The only difference now will be that the players the Giants signed this year will cost a lot more in 2022, 2023 and beyond. If you can lock talent in now, you lock it in. The players and their agents (if they have any type of intelligence), will look at the usual percentage of the cap that a position group commands and prorate that number up to the new cap that's almost $30M more. It's to bad the Giants don't know if Daniel Jones is their man or not. They could have extended him and back-loaded an extension. Players will take a bit less for guaranteed money now due to potential injuries in the sport. Also, to end on an upbeat note, your bolded comment doesn't apply to the Cowboys, check this out, only $5.4M in cap space in 2023 (not 2022, 2023 LMAO) overthecap.com/salary-cap/dallas-cowboys/ |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 8:08:59 GMT -5
So will the other 31 teams.. Just saying. Absolutely, everyone will be on the same playing field. The only difference now will be that the players the Giants signed this year will cost a lot more in 2022, 2023 and beyond. If you can lock talent in now, you lock it in. The players and their agents (if they have any type of intelligence), will look at the usual percentage of the cap that a position group commands and prorate that number up to the new cap that's almost $30M more. It's to bad the Giants don't know if Daniel Jones is their man or not. They could have extended him and back-loaded an extension. Players will take a bit less for guaranteed money now due to potential injuries in the sport. Also, to end on an upbeat note, your bolded comment doesn't apply to the Cowboys, check this out, only $5.4M in cap space in 2023 (not 2022, 2023 LMAO) overthecap.com/salary-cap/dallas-cowboys/I hope you're right about the Boys being a mess!! |
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Post by Kruunch on May 27, 2021 9:11:13 GMT -5
So you are saying Gettleman was able to make a smart decision by looking at more than what was an inch in front of his face? Like he has some forethought, unlike the haters and talking heads? Odd. I don't love DG but he has had his good moments, this is one of them. Im surprised a lot of teams weren't spending this offseason when the cap was 182M and now will be spending when the cap is 209M and have to spend more. Also, its going up and up so the Giants will be plenty to work with in 2023 and beyond.... That’s where I have my concern. Are you to tell me, most of the league wasn’t aware of the salary cap being bumped up $30 million? Either the Giants are the smartest ones in the room, or they overplayed their hand. I’m going with the latter. Most of the league were dumping salaries, or staying put. While, we were wheeling and dealing like there is no tomorrow. |
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Post by jb456 on May 27, 2021 9:51:21 GMT -5
I don't love DG but he has had his good moments, this is one of them. Im surprised a lot of teams weren't spending this offseason when the cap was 182M and now will be spending when the cap is 209M and have to spend more. Also, its going up and up so the Giants will be plenty to work with in 2023 and beyond.... That’s where I have my concern. Are you to tell me, most of the league wasn’t aware of the salary cap being bumped up $30 million? Either the Giants are the smartest ones in the room, or they overplayed their hand. I’m going with the latter. Most of the league were dumping salaries, or staying put. While, we were wheeling and dealing like there is no tomorrow. I'm trying to see where the logic was to hold off on signing players and can only come up with 1 reason. Perhaps the free agent class in 2022 is a lot better? what other reason could there be? Sign players when you have more cap space but they will cost more? This would be a stupid reason. The only thing I can say about the players the Giants signed is that they appear to have gotten a bargain now that the 2022 salary cap floor is finalized. The biggest factor with these signings will be if these players actually perform. The Giants appear to be sitting pretty now but lets revisit this topic during and after the season. Then we will really know if they made the right decisions. |
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Post by hadenough on May 27, 2021 9:57:54 GMT -5
The Giants are tight against the cap next year. They signed these players factoring in the rise in cap space. They will be tight next year...but things open up after that.
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Post by giantlegacy on May 27, 2021 11:05:16 GMT -5
The Giants are tight against the cap next year. They signed these players factoring in the rise in cap space. They will be tight next year...but things open up after that. The 30 million next year helps us resign a few of our own (Peppers,Hernandez and I think Gates are up as well as Carter ) Figure 20 million in space in 2022 before deleting Soldier and Shepard... that gives us close to 40 ... Enough for Peppers and Gates if he continues to rise... Then we see what Hernandez does whether he deserves an extension as it's all in his hands.. Carter I can take or leave... |
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Post by imgrate on May 27, 2021 11:51:18 GMT -5
The Giants are tight against the cap next year. They signed these players factoring in the rise in cap space. They will be tight next year...but things open up after that. The 30 million next year helps us resign a few of our own (Peppers,Hernandez and I think Gates are up as well as Carter ) Figure 20 million in space in 2022 before deleting Soldier and Shepard... that gives us close to 40 ... Enough for Peppers and Gates if he continues to rise... Then we see what Hernandez does whether he deserves an extension as it's all in his hands.. Carter I can take or leave... Again though, the $30million is the MAX it'll increase by. |
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Post by giantlegacy on May 27, 2021 12:13:34 GMT -5
The 30 million next year helps us resign a few of our own (Peppers,Hernandez and I think Gates are up as well as Carter ) Figure 20 million in space in 2022 before deleting Soldier and Shepard... that gives us close to 40 ... Enough for Peppers and Gates if he continues to rise... Then we see what Hernandez does whether he deserves an extension as it's all in his hands.. Carter I can take or leave... Again though, the $30million is the MAX it'll increase by. I know But our 2022 cap number doesn't take into account the inevitable delete of Solder and probably Shepard..2hidh gives us more room |
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Post by hadenough on May 27, 2021 12:39:07 GMT -5
The Giants are tight against the cap next year. They signed these players factoring in the rise in cap space. They will be tight next year...but things open up after that. The 30 million next year helps us resign a few of our own (Peppers,Hernandez and I think Gates are up as well as Carter ) Figure 20 million in space in 2022 before deleting Soldier and Shepard... that gives us close to 40 ... Enough for Peppers and Gates if he continues to rise... Then we see what Hernandez does whether he deserves an extension as it's all in his hands.. Carter I can take or leave... The Giants currently only have about $6 mil in cap space for next year. Signing draft picks will take a lot of that. There is no cap savings for Solder next year...they already took the savings this year. They don't have a lot of money in 2022. |
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Post by giantlegacy on May 27, 2021 12:41:21 GMT -5
The 30 million next year helps us resign a few of our own (Peppers,Hernandez and I think Gates are up as well as Carter ) Figure 20 million in space in 2022 before deleting Soldier and Shepard... that gives us close to 40 ... Enough for Peppers and Gates if he continues to rise... Then we see what Hernandez does whether he deserves an extension as it's all in his hands.. Carter I can take or leave... The Giants currently only have about $6 mil in cap space for next year. Signing draft picks will take a lot of that. There is no cap savings for Solder next year...they already took the savings this year. They don't have a lot of money in 2022. What are you talking about This isn't taking into account the new cap number And Solder still os on the books for his big number next year as he only re did his contract for this year.. Shepard gives us 10 million next year of relief |
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Post by Nick6475 on May 27, 2021 12:56:18 GMT -5
The 30 million next year helps us resign a few of our own (Peppers,Hernandez and I think Gates are up as well as Carter ) Figure 20 million in space in 2022 before deleting Soldier and Shepard... that gives us close to 40 ... Enough for Peppers and Gates if he continues to rise... Then we see what Hernandez does whether he deserves an extension as it's all in his hands.. Carter I can take or leave... The Giants currently only have about $6 mil in cap space for next year. Signing draft picks will take a lot of that. There is no cap savings for Solder next year...they already took the savings this year. They don't have a lot of money in 2022. Did you see what they did with "not a lot of money" this year? Not sure why you think it'll be an issue next year. |
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Post by hadenough on May 27, 2021 13:40:16 GMT -5
The Giants currently only have about $6 mil in cap space for next year. Signing draft picks will take a lot of that. There is no cap savings for Solder next year...they already took the savings this year. They don't have a lot of money in 2022. Did you see what they did with "not a lot of money" this year? Not sure why you think it'll be an issue next year. The Giants had a lot of room to move money around to create more room. They had contracts they could extend or cut. They did exactly what they should have done. They don't really have that next year. You can't keep extending and cutting a lot of contracts. They have most of their team back next year and draft picks. They shouldn't need a lot. |
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Post by TEM on May 28, 2021 9:23:13 GMT -5
We have $6,037,199 in cap space nest year. We better be able to move money around.
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Post by nyg2 on May 28, 2021 9:42:35 GMT -5
We have $6,037,199 in cap space nest year. We better be able to move money around. That's assuming of course best case scenario since that $208 million is the ceiling not the floor. |
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Post by TEM on May 28, 2021 9:52:04 GMT -5
We have $6,037,199 in cap space nest year. We better be able to move money around. That's assuming of course best case scenario since that $208 million is the ceiling not the floor. Exactly. It may go down . It is not going up. |
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Post by giantlegacy on May 28, 2021 10:16:07 GMT -5
We have $6,037,199 in cap space nest year. We better be able to move money around. Shepard and Solder can be deleted Also Unless something horrible happens we won't have to be buyers and we can just bring back our own which means we can dip into a very big 2023 year for year 2 big guaranteed years To me we probably have only 2 must bring back guys as of now Peppers and Gates.. Maybe Hernandez plays his way into an extension.. If Jones is legit we also have a ton of picks for more depth/talent.. |
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Post by giantlegacy on May 28, 2021 11:04:25 GMT -5
FWIW saw on BBV
Dallas over the cap by 19 million in 2022 and only a total of 5 mil space in 2023..
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Post by TEM on May 28, 2021 11:09:08 GMT -5
We have $6,037,199 in cap space nest year. We better be able to move money around. Shepard and Solder can be deleted Also Unless something horrible happens we won't have to be buyers and we can just bring back our own which means we can dip into a very big 2023 year for year 2 big guaranteed years To me we probably have only 2 must bring back guys as of now Peppers and Gates.. Maybe Hernandez plays his way into an extension.. If Jones is legit we also have a ton of picks for more depth/talent.. Unless someone else can get into 65%+ completion % . I do not see how Shep can be parted with. |
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