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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jul 16, 2021 11:15:11 GMT -5
This year in 17 games the old standards have gone by the way side. A 4,000 yd passer is less than 250 a game. What starter shouldn't reach that mark ? I'm expecting Jones to be significantly over 4,000 yds even running the ball with Barkley. Hell 280 yds a game is close to 4,500 yds for the season. A few TD passes would be nice too.
A 1,000 yd RB or WR so what. What is it 55 yds per game, 28 yds per half ? Our 2nd and 3rd receivers could hit 1,000 yds. Dallas comes to mind immediately. Imagine what "Air Coryell " would do in 17 games with the new rules. WHEW ! Marino in 17 games with a third wideout and todays rules, OH BOY !
I think we actually have 5 receivers beside our #1 Goladay that could have 1,000 yds. Now not all of them in one year but realistic potential to reach that number. Barkley, EE, Slayton, Toney, and Shep. I do feel these 5 could reach 700-800 yds apiece and it shouldn't be a stretch in 17 games.
And Ross and Pettis have the speed but I just don't see how they get that many targets, there's only 1 football.
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Post by ratbastich on Jul 16, 2021 11:24:30 GMT -5
True the standards have changed, however it is also only one more game added. If the Giants play like they did in 2020, it really won't matter how many yards per game they need because they still wouldn't have reached those marks.
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Post by Martin on Jul 16, 2021 11:38:29 GMT -5
wins and losses is the real stat. Everything else I don't give a hoot.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jul 16, 2021 11:57:21 GMT -5
If the O line gells and Jonew takes the next step
A top 10 playoff caliber offense with over 4K in the air,
1800 on tbe ground and top 10 in scoring
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Post by Roswell on Jul 16, 2021 12:06:40 GMT -5
This year in 17 games the old standards have gone by the way side. A 4,000 yd passer is less than 250 a game. What starter shouldn't reach that mark ? I'm expecting Jones to be significantly over 4,000 yds even running the ball with Barkley. Hell 280 yds a game is close to 4,500 yds for the season. A few TD passes would be nice too. A 1,000 yd RB or WR so what. What is it 55 yds per game, 28 yds per half ? Our 2nd and 3rd receivers could hit 1,000 yds. Dallas comes to mind immediately. Imagine what "Air Coryell " would do in 17 games with the new rules. WHEW ! Marino in 17 games with a third wideout and todays rules, OH BOY ! I think we actually have 5 receivers beside our #1 Goladay that could have 1,000 yds. Now not all of them in one year but realistic potential to reach that number. Barkley, EE, Slayton, Toney, and Shep. I do feel these 5 could reach 700-800 yds apiece and it shouldn't be a stretch in 17 games. And Ross and Pettis have the speed but I just don't see how they get that many targets, there's only 1 football. It all starts up front. |
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Post by McCherry on Jul 16, 2021 12:08:42 GMT -5
Score more points. Have a higher red zone percentage. Only the Jets were worse in PPG last year.
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Post by Martin on Jul 16, 2021 12:14:17 GMT -5
If the O line gells and Jonew takes the next step A top 10 playoff caliber offense with over 4K in the air, 1800 on tbe ground and top 10 in scoring If your offense is top 10 in scoring and your D is in the top 10 this would mean the Giants are playoff bound. All fantasy land at this point! Have you been to Disney World? |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jul 16, 2021 13:00:54 GMT -5
If the O line gells and Jonew takes the next step A top 10 playoff caliber offense with over 4K in the air, 1800 on tbe ground and top 10 in scoring If your offense is top 10 in scoring and your D is in the top 10 this would mean the Giants are playoff bound. All fantasy land at this point! Have you been to Disney World? I really think this team is playoff caliber |
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Post by Martin on Jul 16, 2021 13:14:04 GMT -5
If your offense is top 10 in scoring and your D is in the top 10 this would mean the Giants are playoff bound. All fantasy land at this point! Have you been to Disney World? I really think this team is playoff caliber It's possible yes. I will not get amped up until 8 games in though. I have very similar mind set to you on what the offense could become. How did your shoot go? (mexico) |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jul 16, 2021 13:20:06 GMT -5
I really think this team is playoff caliber It's possible yes. I will not get amped up until 8 games in though. I have very similar mind set to you on what the offense could become. How did your shoot go? (mexico) Amazing Dubai was a cluster eff because half the wardrobe we were supposed to shoot never got there till a day before we were supposed to leave.. Just got done with a very hectic week for Swimweek in Miami |
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Post by Martin on Jul 16, 2021 13:32:44 GMT -5
It's possible yes. I will not get amped up until 8 games in though. I have very similar mind set to you on what the offense could become. How did your shoot go? (mexico) Amazing Dubai was a cluster eff because half the wardrobe we were supposed to shoot never got there till a day before we were supposed to leave.. Just got done with a very hectic week for Swimweek in Miami Sweet! My daughter got back from Cancun a week ago. Great time she had. I've never been but I want to see the pyramids. |
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 16, 2021 14:12:44 GMT -5
20 QBs had 235+ yards per game last year. So 4,000 yards should be attainable. I do think you are down playing 1,000 yards for a WR or RB though. "What is 55 yards per game", well what is 58 yards per game? The average barely changed lol. It's not suddenly meaningless because of 1 extra game. It means pretty much the same as before.
My expectations is that we can score. I expect that the game doesn't end when we fall behind. I expect adding Golladay, Barkley, Jones, Toney and Rudolph to this offense that we perform better than 31st. Top 15 at least, top 10-5 potential.
It all starts and ends with health though. Everyone on this offense (other than the OL) has health issues. Tremendous potential though. Now go prove it.
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Post by McCherry on Jul 16, 2021 16:43:29 GMT -5
Amazing Dubai was a cluster eff because half the wardrobe we were supposed to shoot never got there till a day before we were supposed to leave.. Just got done with a very hectic week for Swimweek in Miami Sweet! My daughter got back from Cancun a week ago. Great time she had. I've never been but I want to see the pyramids. Chichen Itza is only a few hours from Cancun. |
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 16, 2021 17:13:24 GMT -5
Someone throw cold water on Rich, he’s going off the rails talking about the offense again. Why don’t we just say every skill position will get 1,000 yards? Except, Engram. He’s the Antichrist.. We have more questions on our offense than the bar exam. Jones is suspect, Barkley is coming off an injury, same goes for Golladay and Ross lives in the trainers room. Let’s not forget the second most important position on the field. The offensive line is a bunch of kids who need to learn on the fly. Yeah, it’s nice to have big expectations. Just, be prepared for the high fall if you don’t see them.
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Post by Jomo on Jul 16, 2021 17:33:19 GMT -5
This year in 17 games the old standards have gone by the way side. A 4,000 yd passer is less than 250 a game. What starter shouldn't reach that mark ? I'm expecting Jones to be significantly over 4,000 yds even running the ball with Barkley. Hell 280 yds a game is close to 4,500 yds for the season. A few TD passes would be nice too. A 1,000 yd RB or WR so what. What is it 55 yds per game, 28 yds per half ? Our 2nd and 3rd receivers could hit 1,000 yds. Dallas comes to mind immediately. Imagine what "Air Coryell " would do in 17 games with the new rules. WHEW ! Marino in 17 games with a third wideout and todays rules, OH BOY ! I think we actually have 5 receivers beside our #1 Goladay that could have 1,000 yds. Now not all of them in one year but realistic potential to reach that number. Barkley, EE, Slayton, Toney, and Shep. I do feel these 5 could reach 700-800 yds apiece and it shouldn't be a stretch in 17 games. And Ross and Pettis have the speed but I just don't see how they get that many targets, there's only 1 football. It all starts up front. In a word, yes. In two words, yes sir. |
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Post by McCherry on Jul 16, 2021 18:33:08 GMT -5
Someone throw cold water on Rich, he’s going off the rails talking about the offense again. Why don’t we just say every skill position will get 1,000 yards? Except, Engram. He’s the Antichrist.. We have more questions on our offense than the bar exam. Jones is suspect, Barkley is coming off an injury, same goes for Golladay and Ross lives in the trainers room. Let’s not forget the second most important position on the field. The offensive line is a bunch of kids who need to learn on the fly. Yeah, it’s nice to have big expectations. Just, be prepared for the high fall if you don’t see them. Mr. Sunshine over here. |
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 16, 2021 18:54:06 GMT -5
Someone throw cold water on Rich, he’s going off the rails talking about the offense again. Why don’t we just say every skill position will get 1,000 yards? Except, Engram. He’s the Antichrist.. We have more questions on our offense than the bar exam. Jones is suspect, Barkley is coming off an injury, same goes for Golladay and Ross lives in the trainers room. Let’s not forget the second most important position on the field. The offensive line is a bunch of kids who need to learn on the fly. Yeah, it’s nice to have big expectations. Just, be prepared for the high fall if you don’t see them. Mr. Sunshine over here. There is so much positivity in here that it should be fattening. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jul 16, 2021 20:02:59 GMT -5
20 QBs had 235+ yards per game last year. So 4,000 yards should be attainable. I do think you are down playing 1,000 yards for a WR or RB though. "What is 55 yards per game", well what is 58 yards per game? The average barely changed lol. It's not suddenly meaningless because of 1 extra game. It means pretty much the same as before. My expectations is that we can score. I expect that the game doesn't end when we fall behind. I expect adding Golladay, Barkley, Jones, Toney and Rudolph to this offense that we perform better than 31st. Top 15 at least, top 10-5 potential. It all starts and ends with health though. Everyone on this offense (other than the OL) has health issues. Tremendous potential though. Now go prove it. Mike who's Jones ? Did you mean to say Ross ? But I agree 1 game barely changes the dynamics needed to reach a certain goal. I was just stating that what once was considered a good season is just that much more watered down and that we have a number of players that have the talent to reach this figure. And God knows we need to score more than 17pts per game average. Of course were all concerned with Jones, Barkley and the OL to remain healthy through out the season. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jul 16, 2021 20:18:57 GMT -5
Someone throw cold water on Rich, he’s going off the rails talking about the offense again. Why don’t we just say every skill position will get 1,000 yards? Except, Engram. He’s the Antichrist.. We have more questions on our offense than the bar exam. Jones is suspect, Barkley is coming off an injury, same goes for Golladay and Ross lives in the trainers room. Let’s not forget the second most important position on the field. The offensive line is a bunch of kids who need to learn on the fly. Yeah, it’s nice to have big expectations. Just, be prepared for the high fall if you don’t see them. HaHa Kruunch you always make me laugh. Hey put a little Scotch in that cold water and not a drop will hit the ground. After last years offense I can't help but get excited over what our offense can do. You know our OL the last 6 games last year improved like night and day maybe we can start from there and improve on that ? I know sunshine and flowers. But everything together just improving a little could be eye opening. Say the OL is starting from the improvement at the end, Barkley actually stays healthy, the receivers actually make the offense potent. Now of course Jones has to do everything better and stay healthy. Now he probably does improve from last year with everything around him just being a little better. Hey anything here can go sideways but until it does why not embrace the good things that can happen. Don't worry there's going to be plenty to gripe about too. I'm just waiting for the first dropped pass by Engram. I got my Scotch ready. |
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 16, 2021 20:39:50 GMT -5
Mike who's Jones ? Did you mean to say Ross ? But I agree 1 game barely changes the dynamics needed to reach a certain goal. I was just stating that what once was considered a good season is just that much more watered down and that we have a number of players that have the talent to reach this figure. And God knows we need to score more than 17pts per game average. Of course were all concerned with Jones, Barkley and the OL to remain healthy through out the season. Daniel Jones. He's the QB for the New York Giants duh. Haha. I mean him being healthy and hopefully playing all year. We were scoring 24 points a game the 6 games before Jones' injury (after the first 4 games of the year when we started to click, we'll call those preseason games).
After his injury, the final 5 games, we averaged 13 points a game. If our OL can just stay as good as last year (shouldn't be hard) and we add healthy Jones, Barkley, Golladay, Toney and Rudolph we should be able to score 24+ a game rather easily. 24-25 ppg puts us right at the 50% mark of the league which would be a huge improvement.
I don't expect to have two 1,000 yard receivers though. Shep has had 90+ targets and 65+ catches three times and never broke 900. He's a stud but is a short route Steve Smith type. Slayton averages 15 yards per catch on his career but gets 750 each season. Even with the extra game I only see Golladay reaching 1,000 yards. It's still a tough mark because you have to be consistent and healthy.
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 16, 2021 20:42:15 GMT -5
Someone throw cold water on Rich, he’s going off the rails talking about the offense again. Why don’t we just say every skill position will get 1,000 yards? Except, Engram. He’s the Antichrist.. We have more questions on our offense than the bar exam. Jones is suspect, Barkley is coming off an injury, same goes for Golladay and Ross lives in the trainers room. Let’s not forget the second most important position on the field. The offensive line is a bunch of kids who need to learn on the fly. Yeah, it’s nice to have big expectations. Just, be prepared for the high fall if you don’t see them. We should **** with everyone one week and I'll be negative and you be positive. I actually tried to be negative once about Engram but TEM just threw a shit ton of numbers in my face until I was positive again.
As for our injuries. What are the odds we don't suffer a major injury in the skill positions? Literally every starter is an injury concern. This is when I would just shut injuries off in Madden and not worry.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jul 16, 2021 20:50:49 GMT -5
Mike who's Jones ? Did you mean to say Ross ? But I agree 1 game barely changes the dynamics needed to reach a certain goal. I was just stating that what once was considered a good season is just that much more watered down and that we have a number of players that have the talent to reach this figure. And God knows we need to score more than 17pts per game average. Of course were all concerned with Jones, Barkley and the OL to remain healthy through out the season. Daniel Jones. He's the QB for the New York Giants duh. Haha. I mean him being healthy and hopefully playing all year. We were scoring 24 points a game the 6 games before Jones' injury (after the first 4 games of the year when we started to click, we'll call those preseason games).
After his injury, the final 5 games, we averaged 13 points a game. If our OL can just stay as good as last year (shouldn't be hard) and we add healthy Jones, Barkley, Golladay, Toney and Rudolph we should be able to score 24+ a game rather easily. 24-25 ppg puts us right at the 50% mark of the league which would be a huge improvement.
I don't expect to have two 1,000 yard receivers though. Shep has had 90+ targets and 65+ catches three times and never broke 900. He's a stud but is a short route Steve Smith type. Slayton averages 15 yards per catch on his career but gets 750 each season. Even with the extra game I only see Golladay reaching 1,000 yards. It's still a tough mark because you have to be consistent and healthy.
HaHa Mike, I thought you were talking about receivers. lol, Don't worry Mike I'll catch up with the rest of the class. I agree . I expect to increase our average 7 pts a game or more. I wouldn't be shocked if we added 10 pts to our average and I'm serious. We could have 5 -6 players with 700 or more yds receiving. Goladay, Barkley, Shep, Toney, Slayton, EE, I don't think this is far fetched. After last years offense this would seem like "The Greatest Show on Turf " offense. |
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 16, 2021 20:53:16 GMT -5
HaHa Mike, I thought you were talking about receivers. lol, Don't worry Mike I'll catch up with the rest of the class. I agree . I expect to increase our average 7 pts a game or more. I wouldn't be shocked if we added 10 pts to our average and I'm serious. We could have 5 -6 players with 700 or more yds receiving. Goladay, Barkley, Shep, Toney, Slayton, EE, I don't think this is far fetched. After last years offense this would seem like "The Greatest Show on Turf " offense. I don't know what the biggest jump in ppg avg is in just one year but we can do it. We were so damn bad last year anything is possible lol. |
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 17, 2021 8:49:24 GMT -5
Someone throw cold water on Rich, he’s going off the rails talking about the offense again. Why don’t we just say every skill position will get 1,000 yards? Except, Engram. He’s the Antichrist.. We have more questions on our offense than the bar exam. Jones is suspect, Barkley is coming off an injury, same goes for Golladay and Ross lives in the trainers room. Let’s not forget the second most important position on the field. The offensive line is a bunch of kids who need to learn on the fly. Yeah, it’s nice to have big expectations. Just, be prepared for the high fall if you don’t see them. We should **** with everyone one week and I'll be negative and you be positive. I actually tried to be negative once about Engram but TEM just threw a shit ton of numbers in my face until I was positive again.
As for our injuries. What are the odds we don't suffer a major injury in the skill positions? Literally every starter is an injury concern. This is when I would just shut injuries off in Madden and not worry.
I’m down.. Let me give it a whirl.. The NY Giants are in position that they haven’t been in sometime. They got young talent, mixed with veterans. Hungry players who all but bought in to what Judge is selling them. The front office was aggressive this offseason, giving these coaches players to work with. This team is going to the playoffs, and will surprise some of the most critical doubters.. See, that wasn’t so bad. Now, excuse me. I’m going to puke.. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jul 17, 2021 10:52:47 GMT -5
We should **** with everyone one week and I'll be negative and you be positive. I actually tried to be negative once about Engram but TEM just threw a shit ton of numbers in my face until I was positive again.
As for our injuries. What are the odds we don't suffer a major injury in the skill positions? Literally every starter is an injury concern. This is when I would just shut injuries off in Madden and not worry.
I’m down.. Let me give it a whirl.. The NY Giants are in position that they haven’t been in sometime. They got young talent, mixed with veterans. Hungry players who all but bought in to what Judge is selling them. The front office was aggressive this offseason, giving these coaches players to work with. This team is going to the playoffs, and will surprise some of the most critical doubters.. See, that wasn’t so bad. Now, excuse me. I’m going to puke.. HaHa, You know that line from " Goodfella's ". " Your a funny guy ", What I'm funny lookin, people laugh at me. I'm here to amuse you. This should be your tag line. You are a funny guy. |
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Post by TEM on Jul 17, 2021 11:45:06 GMT -5
I have a simple expectation . Control TOP. If the offense is on the field more than the opponent's. It gives an inherent edge.
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 17, 2021 15:09:39 GMT -5
I’m down.. Let me give it a whirl.. The NY Giants are in position that they haven’t been in sometime. They got young talent, mixed with veterans. Hungry players who all but bought in to what Judge is selling them. The front office was aggressive this offseason, giving these coaches players to work with. This team is going to the playoffs, and will surprise some of the most critical doubters.. See, that wasn’t so bad. Now, excuse me. I’m going to puke.. All their veterans are injury prone then they draft some rap mogul who also had injuries. Judge hasn't proven anything. 6 wins is trash. DG gave his last coach players to work with too, half the Cardinals were signed and that blew up in our face. Get ready to draft Jones' replacement, at least DG got us a second 1st round pick for next year. I guess even a blind dumb squirrel from Bahston finds a nut sometimes.
Hey the dark side is fun.
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 18, 2021 14:37:07 GMT -5
I’m down.. Let me give it a whirl.. The NY Giants are in position that they haven’t been in sometime. They got young talent, mixed with veterans. Hungry players who all but bought in to what Judge is selling them. The front office was aggressive this offseason, giving these coaches players to work with. This team is going to the playoffs, and will surprise some of the most critical doubters.. See, that wasn’t so bad. Now, excuse me. I’m going to puke.. All their veterans are injury prone then they draft some rap mogul who also had injuries. Judge hasn't proven anything. 6 wins is trash. DG gave his last coach players to work with too, half the Cardinals were signed and that blew up in our face. Get ready to draft Jones' replacement, at least DG got us a second 1st round pick for next year. I guess even a blind dumb squirrel from Bahston finds a nut sometimes.
Hey the dark side is fun.
It’s the only way to live. The best part is, you can eat all the ice cream you want.. |
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Post by McCherry on Jul 18, 2021 15:04:13 GMT -5
I’m down.. Let me give it a whirl.. The NY Giants are in position that they haven’t been in sometime. They got young talent, mixed with veterans. Hungry players who all but bought in to what Judge is selling them. The front office was aggressive this offseason, giving these coaches players to work with. This team is going to the playoffs, and will surprise some of the most critical doubters.. See, that wasn’t so bad. Now, excuse me. I’m going to puke.. All their veterans are injury prone then they draft some rap mogul who also had injuries. Judge hasn't proven anything. 6 wins is trash. DG gave his last coach players to work with too, half the Cardinals were signed and that blew up in our face. Get ready to draft Jones' replacement, at least DG got us a second 1st round pick for next year. I guess even a blind dumb squirrel from Bahston finds a nut sometimes.
Hey the dark side is fun.
He talks like a good coach though. |
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Post by GameTime on Jul 18, 2021 17:33:18 GMT -5
If the O line gells and Jonew takes the next step A top 10 playoff caliber offense with over 4K in the air, 1800 on tbe ground and top 10 in scoring If your offense is top 10 in scoring and your D is in the top 10 this would mean the Giants are playoff bound. All fantasy land at this point! Have you been to Disney World? Isn't Disney World a real place?.........lol |
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