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Post by IrishMike on Jul 16, 2021 14:36:47 GMT -5
NFL execs, coaches and players pick our best players, not name Saquon Barkley.
#1 was predictable. Leonard Williams. Not a bad trade only giving up a couple mid round picks. Was risky and had potential to blow up in our face but turned out to be good.
#2 I think he is great, but I was surprised people chose him.
#3 and #4 man I wish I could see your faces when you read this one. I was floored and I'm more optimistic than most on here. I hope this one is right.
#5 Good to see people recognize this man. He only has one flaw IMO that he needs to fix. It's a major one.
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Post by GameTime on Jul 16, 2021 14:44:33 GMT -5
3 and 4 are bullshit
of course I want these two to get good
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 16, 2021 15:43:59 GMT -5
NFL execs, coaches and players pick our best players, not name Saquon Barkley.
#1 was predictable. Leonard Williams. Not a bad trade only giving up a couple mid round picks. Was risky and had potential to blow up in our face but turned out to be good.
#2 I think he is great, but I was surprised people chose him.
#3 and #4 man I wish I could see your faces when you read this one. I was floored and I'm more optimistic than most on here. I hope this one is right.
#5 Good to see people recognize this man. He only has one flaw IMO that he needs to fix. It's a major one.
Our best player last year was James Bradberry. We'll see about 2021. |
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Jul 16, 2021 15:50:44 GMT -5
Hernandez and Engram??
LOLOLOL.......we must be one shit team then.....
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Post by McCherry on Jul 16, 2021 16:14:38 GMT -5
NFL execs, coaches and players pick our best players, not name Saquon Barkley.
#1 was predictable. Leonard Williams. Not a bad trade only giving up a couple mid round picks. Was risky and had potential to blow up in our face but turned out to be good.
#2 I think he is great, but I was surprised people chose him.
#3 and #4 man I wish I could see your faces when you read this one. I was floored and I'm more optimistic than most on here. I hope this one is right.
#5 Good to see people recognize this man. He only has one flaw IMO that he needs to fix. It's a major one. Williams clearly the best player on the team w/o Saquan last year. I have no problem with Lawrence at #3. Next, Ryan, Martinez should get mentions. Bradberry somewhere on there too. |
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 16, 2021 19:14:59 GMT -5
Will Hernandez must have written the article. How his name got into the list is comical..
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 16, 2021 20:27:28 GMT -5
3 and 4 are bullshit of course I want these two to get good They are both actually very good run blockers. I was shocked to see them on the list though lol. Man if they can improve their pass pro this year we could have a very solid OL. I wonder how RT will do this year. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jul 16, 2021 20:40:37 GMT -5
NFL execs, coaches and players pick our best players, not name Saquon Barkley.
#1 was predictable. Leonard Williams. Not a bad trade only giving up a couple mid round picks. Was risky and had potential to blow up in our face but turned out to be good.
#2 I think he is great, but I was surprised people chose him.
#3 and #4 man I wish I could see your faces when you read this one. I was floored and I'm more optimistic than most on here. I hope this one is right.
#5 Good to see people recognize this man. He only has one flaw IMO that he needs to fix. It's a major one.
I have no argument with #1 and #2. B But your right about #3 and #4. We could all name better players on the team at #3 and #4 than their picks. And #5 should send Kruunch running off the roof screaming. It's just click bait cause they know were all biting at the bit to get going. |
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 16, 2021 20:45:47 GMT -5
I have no argument with #1 and #2. B But your right about #3 and #4. We could all name better players on the team at #3 and #4 than their picks. And #5 should send Kruunch running off the roof screaming. It's just click bait cause they know were all biting at the bit to get going. It is click bait, but apparently people in the league said these things. I'm pretty shocked that Bradberry and Martinez weren't even mentioned. Those two with Williams were the best last year. Peppers at times was a beast as well. I think it was the Seattle game that he was just on a damn mission and was everywhere, tackles for loss, sacks, pass breakups. |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jul 16, 2021 20:56:17 GMT -5
I have no argument with #1 and #2. B But your right about #3 and #4. We could all name better players on the team at #3 and #4 than their picks. And #5 should send Kruunch running off the roof screaming. It's just click bait cause they know were all biting at the bit to get going. It is click bait, but apparently people in the league said these things. I'm pretty shocked that Bradberry and Martinez weren't even mentioned. Those two with Williams were the best last year. Peppers at times was a beast as well. I think it was the Seattle game that he was just on a damn mission and was everywhere, tackles for loss, sacks, pass breakups. Hell we could name the top 5 players just using our defense. The players you named were our best 5 LW, Dex, Martinez, Bradbury, and Pep. And Ryan could be the 6th last year. |
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Post by jb456 on Jul 16, 2021 21:06:50 GMT -5
After 1 and 2, that list is bad. There is a strong chance that neither Engram or Hernandez will even get considered for a long term contract. Hell, Hernandez got benched for a 5th round rookie. Also, Lemieux might have shown some flashes but he wasn't good overall.
Its like someone picked random names from their roster after 1 and 2....
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Post by GameTime on Jul 16, 2021 21:08:22 GMT -5
3 and 4 are bullshit of course I want these two to get good They are both actually very good run blockers. I was shocked to see them on the list though lol. Man if they can improve their pass pro this year we could have a very solid OL. I wonder how RT will do this year. OL is a big gamble for the org this season as we all know. They are going all in and hoping to win big!!. |
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 16, 2021 21:30:44 GMT -5
They are both actually very good run blockers. I was shocked to see them on the list though lol. Man if they can improve their pass pro this year we could have a very solid OL. I wonder how RT will do this year. OL is a big gamble for the org this season as we all know. They are going all in and hoping to win big!!. For some reason I am less scared about the OL than the skill players. Obviously our skill guys are very talented but they are all injury prone. I feel good about our OL being decent enough to not destroy the team. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 23:24:56 GMT -5
OL is a big gamble for the org this season as we all know. They are going all in and hoping to win big!!. For some reason I am less scared about the OL than the skill players. Obviously our skill guys are very talented but they are all injury prone. I feel good about our OL being decent enough to not destroy the team.Based upon what? |
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Post by jb456 on Jul 16, 2021 23:47:47 GMT -5
OL is a big gamble for the org this season as we all know. They are going all in and hoping to win big!!. For some reason I am less scared about the OL than the skill players. Obviously our skill guys are very talented but they are all injury prone. I feel good about our OL being decent enough to not destroy the team. They released their best oline and are banking every other player to take step forward. I guess you could argue that they improved at tackle but that is probably marginal. Without 2 steps forward from Lemieux, they will be worse at guard. This line looks top 17 to 20 at best and last at worse. |
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 17, 2021 9:17:22 GMT -5
After 1 and 2, that list is bad. There is a strong chance that neither Engram or Hernandez will even get considered for a long term contract. Hell, Hernandez got benched for a 5th round rookie. Also, Lemieux might have shown some flashes but he wasn't good overall. Its like someone picked random names from their roster after 1 and 2.... The author has no clue about this team. It’s like he picked names out of a hat and went with it. Hell, I would put Graham Gano and his right cleat over Hernandez and Lemieux. |
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 17, 2021 15:02:18 GMT -5
For some reason I am less scared about the OL than the skill players. Obviously our skill guys are very talented but they are all injury prone. I feel good about our OL being decent enough to not destroy the team.Based upon what? Based on the growth that I witnessed last year. Based on us scoring 24 ppg without Barkley and a WR core that didn't threaten anyone and a TE that dropped a ton of passes. If we could score that much last year before Jones got hurt I feel pretty good that this OL will be good enough. |
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 17, 2021 15:04:26 GMT -5
They released their best oline and are banking every other player to take step forward. I guess you could argue that they improved at tackle but that is probably marginal. Without 2 steps forward from Lemieux, they will be worse at guard. This line looks top 17 to 20 at best and last at worse. I think every team expects their young players to take a step forward. Good teams develop players and they improve; bad teams don't develop players and they look to replace them.
We will see what we are this year. If Judge and his staff doesn't get their young players to improve then he won't be a successful NFL coach.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 15:26:31 GMT -5
Based on the growth that I witnessed last year. Based on us scoring 24 ppg without Barkley and a WR core that didn't threaten anyone and a TE that dropped a ton of passes. If we could score that much last year before Jones got hurt I feel pretty good that this OL will be good enough. I'm guessing only if we can get the great signing called Solder playing left tackle again.... Well, they certainly can't get any worse .... according to ESPN Analytics |
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Post by snyder55 on Jul 17, 2021 15:37:42 GMT -5
They released their best oline and are banking every other player to take step forward. I guess you could argue that they improved at tackle but that is probably marginal. Without 2 steps forward from Lemieux, they will be worse at guard. This line looks top 17 to 20 at best and last at worse. I think every team expects their young players to take a step forward. Good teams develop players and they improve; bad teams don't develop players and they look to replace them.
We will see what we are this year. If Judge and his staff doesn't get their young players to improve then he won't be a successful NFL coach.
I worry that the Giants could drop into the abyss like the Cleveland Browns did and really disappear for a long time, God I hope not... |
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 17, 2021 15:38:21 GMT -5
I'm guessing only if we can get the great signing called Solder playing left tackle again.... Well, they certainly can't get any worse .... according to ESPN Analytics Nah we need your boy Ereck Flowers back. Heck ESPN/PFF had us ranked higher when he played LT, maybe you're on to something. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 15:43:02 GMT -5
I'm guessing only if we can get the great signing called Solder playing left tackle again.... Well, they certainly can't get any worse .... according to ESPN Analytics Nah we need your boy Ereck Flowers back. Heck ESPN/PFF had us ranked higher when he played LT, maybe you're on to something. Flowers...me? Being I actually evaluate high school linemen, I certainly can attest I hated the pick, the play and his attitude...but sadly, as was brought up to you...he was still playing better than your Gettleman pay for crap tackle...Solder.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 16:11:55 GMT -5
I think every team expects their young players to take a step forward. Good teams develop players and they improve; bad teams don't develop players and they look to replace them.
We will see what we are this year. If Judge and his staff doesn't get their young players to improve then he won't be a successful NFL coach.
I worry that the Giants could drop into the abyss like the Cleveland Browns did and really disappear for a long time, God I hope not... Yep...trying to be optimistic, but this OL is still a huge question mark. Any areas where we play subpar where we are expected to be strong, and yeah...Cleveland Browns here we come.  |
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 17, 2021 16:20:41 GMT -5
Flowers...me? Being I actually evaluate high school linemen, I certainly can attest I hated the pick, the play and his attitude...but sadly, as was brought up to you...he was still playing better than your Gettleman pay for crap tackle...Solder. Well if you think Flowers ever played better than Solder it's no wonder you evaluate high school players and not college lmao. Enjoy your weekend. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 16:45:16 GMT -5
Flowers...me? Being I actually evaluate high school linemen, I certainly can attest I hated the pick, the play and his attitude...but sadly, as was brought up to you...he was still playing better than your Gettleman pay for crap tackle...Solder. Well if you think Flowers ever played better than Solder it's no wonder you evaluate high school players and not college lmao. Enjoy your weekend. We'll have to go over some tape Mikey...you will get to see your Flowers twice a year thus we can really evaluate the game tape  |
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