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Post by Delicreep on Oct 31, 2021 18:33:26 GMT -5
Serious question... I know if they win the SB, then we "lose" on the trade, but what pick do we begin to "win" the trade? well, we traded down to 20, so I'd want it to be above that at least. I was thinking 11, but I'm greedy.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 31, 2021 19:23:58 GMT -5
Well that was a good L I wasn't expecting vs the 49ers in Chicago. 3-5 Let's keep em losing Serious question... I know if they win the SB, then we "lose" on the trade, but what pick do we begin to "win" the trade? I think a top 10 is a win. We traded pick 10 right? Of course, none of it really matters until we find out who they draft, but obviously the higher the pick the better odds. And by higher I mean lower.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 31, 2021 21:19:09 GMT -5
well, we traded down to 20, so I'd want it to be above that at least. I was thinking 11, but I'm greedy. Where ever the 1st rd pick lands will be nice the higher it is the better of course, but they will have and extra 3rd and 4th because of the trade also.
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Post by nyg2 on Nov 1, 2021 10:03:33 GMT -5
Well that was a good L I wasn't expecting vs the 49ers in Chicago. 3-5 Let's keep em losing Serious question... I know if they win the SB, then we "lose" on the trade, but what pick do we begin to "win" the trade? We traded the 11th pick, so I would say if we got the 11th pick or better then we "won" the trade. There's a certain understanding that when a team trades up for a QB, that their pick for next season will be in the top-10.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 8, 2021 12:39:38 GMT -5
Big game tonight. Steelers hopefully test Fields tonight and confuse him all night long. Here are four things to watch for Monday night when the Steelers host the Bears:1) Rookie's first "Fields" trip to Pittsburgh. The future is now for the Bears with Fields poised to lead the offense until the end of the season. In last week's loss to the Niners, Fields became the first Bears QB to log 100 yards rushing (10 carries, 103 yards, TD) in a game since 1973 (Bobby Douglass) while throwing for 175 yards, a touchdown and a pick. This week, the promising rookie is in for another big challenge as he looks to build off his best game as a pro and notch his third career victory. Fields' mobility, whether it's been on designed runs or out of necessity, has served him well while he continues to learn to trust his arm and receiving corps. The league-leading 26 sacks he's taken, however, are a testament to how much he and his offensive line have struggled to maintain drives. The Steelers' front four has been known to make life miserable for running backs, meaning the returning David Montgomery and emerging rookie Khalil Herbert could be in for a rough night. If neither back proves effective, it'll be on Fields, who has thrown for 200-plus once in six starts, to find a way to keep the Bears in it. 2) Big Ben looking to conquer Bears for first time since 2005. A lot has changed since Roethlisberger last vanquished Chicago. One thing that hasn't, however, is his ability to do it again. The veteran QB is 0-3 (2009, 2013, 2017) against the Bears over the last 16 years. His attempt to outlast Chicago in 2021 is aided by a three-game winning streak, a run that's seen a banged-up Big Ben average a higher passer rating (102.6) than he did during a three-game losing streak (77.7) in Weeks 2-4. He's also tossed three TDs to zero interceptions over the last three after posting a 3-4 ratio during the aforementioned skid. The Steelers haven't blown any of those games wide open -- Pittsburgh's outscored its opponents, 65-49 -- but Mike Tomlin would take efficiency and the opportunity at a fourth straight win over winning by 25 a game any day. A gritty Bears secondary, which ranks 11th in allowed pass YPG but will be without vet Eddie Jackson (hamstring), could present Chase Claypool and the oft-targeted Diontae Johnson with the toughest coverage they've seen in weeks. 3) No Mack makes Bears more vulnerable to Steelers' rushing attack. For a run defense that ranks in the bottom 10 in allowed YPG (125.0), playing without Khalil Mack (foot) for a second straight week won't improve the Bears' chances of neutralizing Najee Harris. But, if it is to do so, Akiem Hicks, Robert Quinn and Roquan Smith will need to step up, much like they did when Chicago ranked among the league's best against the run in 2020. Yes, Pittsburgh ranks near the bottom of the league in rushing YPG, but that's only because the depth behind Harris is practically non-existent. Even with the heavy workload, the first-year sensation has shown he's capable of anchoring an offense as one of the few workhorses thriving in a land of committees. Entering Week 9, Harris led all rookie backs in rushing (479) and scrimmage yards (752); he's also seen an uptick in carries in each of the past five weeks, including a season-high 26 (for 91 yards) in Week 8 against Cleveland. 4) T.J. Watt and the quest for that elusive DPOY. The youngest Watt will get another chance on MNF to hold it down for the family while substantiating his latest case for Defensive Player of the Year. His journey toward that crown is off to a good start as he has accumulated 8.5 sacks (15 QB hits), 27 tackles, three forced fumbles (two recoveries) and three passes defensed in six starts (missed Week 3). Against Chicago, Watt will have to keep his head on a swivel, even with Minkah Fitzpatrick likely spending chunks of the night as a spy. But the matchup should allow him to focus primarily on wreaking havoc up front alongside fellow world-eater Cameron Heyward. On Saturday, Watt likened the Bears' offensive approach to that of their run-heavy rivals, the Browns and Ravens. No one will confuse Fields for Lamar Jackson or the Bears RBs for Cleveland's, but facing runners that can dust defenses at a moment's notice will help Watt and the Steelers better prepare for what they might face in the postseason, should they make it.
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Post by rbe40 on Nov 8, 2021 18:47:48 GMT -5
Allen Robinson is still a legit #1 WR IMO. Allen Robinson is a fantastic #2 WR. He is NOT a true #1 WR. The Bears refused to pay him as such this offseason. As we have learned this season...the Bears were 100% correct - Allen Robinson is not a legit #1.
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Post by Dogecoin on Nov 8, 2021 21:54:27 GMT -5
They suck worse than we do. I don't envy them.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 8, 2021 22:09:54 GMT -5
They suck worse than we do. I don't envy them. They are about to make it 14-10... damn it. Scratch that. Fields got roughed and they didn't call it. 14-6
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 8, 2021 23:39:07 GMT -5
Just came up short...
Bears fall to 3-6 on the year.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 8, 2021 23:52:49 GMT -5
Even when we have 2 top 9 picks, the Eagles have 2 picks in front of us...
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Post by Parsley on Nov 9, 2021 6:50:03 GMT -5
Based on remain schedules Bears and Giants should end with no more than 6 wins each. So hopefully 2 picks around 10 or so at the worst. (I'll give the Bears wins vs. Detroit, one vs. Minny and maybe vs. NY)
Bears remaining....
-Baltimore
-@detroit
-Arizona
-@green Bay
-Minnesota
-@seattle
-New York Giants
-@minnesota
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Post by Fletch842 on Nov 9, 2021 7:51:52 GMT -5
Based on remain schedules Bears and Giants should end with no more than 6 wins each. So hopefully 2 picks around 10 or so at the worst. (I'll give the Bears wins vs. Detroit, one vs. Minny and maybe vs. NY) Bears remaining.... -Baltimore -@detroit -Arizona -@green Bay -Minnesota -@seattle -New York Giants -@minnesota Hopefully the only game they win is against Det...
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Post by Parademon1 on Nov 9, 2021 12:26:27 GMT -5
Refs gifted Pitt that game, DGAF what anyone says.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 9, 2021 17:02:45 GMT -5
The Eagles (3) Jets (2) and Giants (2) have half of the first 14 draft picks as of now.
That's pretty ridiculous.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Nov 10, 2021 21:41:25 GMT -5
Even when we have 2 top 9 picks, the Eagles have 2 picks in front of us... That 3rd pick from Miami is a kick in the nuts. I was hoping the Bears short circuited and would give us a pick like that. Us and the Bears look like a mirror of one another. But their 1st and 4th should give us picks somewhere between 6 - 14. Now that 3rd rd pick from Miami we should get one of the first 3-4 picks in the 3rd rd.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Nov 10, 2021 21:44:16 GMT -5
Refs gifted Pitt that game, DGAF what anyone says. Parademon1, November 10th, Happy Birthday
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Post by Parademon1 on Nov 11, 2021 12:20:03 GMT -5
Refs gifted Pitt that game, DGAF what anyone says. Parademon1, November 10th, Happy Birthday Happy belated BD Devildog & happy veterans day! Semper fi 2/8
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 19, 2021 13:57:56 GMT -5
This helps
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 19, 2021 15:30:06 GMT -5
Yep - his absence had already affected their defense. A big blow.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 20, 2021 13:26:54 GMT -5
Damn, Lamar is questionable vs Chicago tomorrow.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 21, 2021 11:37:09 GMT -5
Damn it...
Lamar Jackson out today vs Chicago. Tyler Huntley makes his first career start.
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Post by Fletch842 on Nov 21, 2021 16:30:18 GMT -5
Ravens had me sweating today, pulled it out of their asses though.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 21, 2021 16:30:57 GMT -5
I was watching that Bears Ravens game like it was our game. Man the Ravens almost blew it. That would have been awful.
Ravens win 16-13
Bears now 3-7
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Post by Parsley on Nov 21, 2021 17:03:31 GMT -5
If the sucking continues what we have now is about the best we can hope for. Picks 5 & 6. The teams worse are just brutally bad and likely not falling out of the top 4.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 21, 2021 17:10:53 GMT -5
If the sucking continues what we have now is about the best we can hope for. Picks 5 & 6. The teams worse are just brutally bad and likely not falling out of the top 4. Lions Jets Jags Texans won today! I could see at best the #4 pick. I do think that Bears pick stays top 10 which is a win for me in that trade back.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 21, 2021 17:10:58 GMT -5
If the sucking continues what we have now is about the best we can hope for. Picks 5 & 6. The teams worse are just brutally bad and likely not falling out of the top 4. And no qb even remotely looking like a franchise type coming out,and none of the brutally bad teams looking like they will make a move on a new coach,meaning no hope of a Kiffen/Corral combo (the only way I can see a qb going top 10) Luckily for us it looks like a bumper crop for front 7 on defense and interior O linemen
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Post by TheAnalyst on Nov 21, 2021 17:11:15 GMT -5
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 21, 2021 17:17:28 GMT -5
Sounds like Let's go Brandon. 😜 Then the Bears will be yet another team that drafted a qb early by a coach and staff for a specific system that now has to force said young qb to possibly learn a new system in year 2....especially a qb they traded a 1st round pick in 2022 for
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Nov 21, 2021 17:54:28 GMT -5
If the sucking continues what we have now is about the best we can hope for. Picks 5 & 6. The teams worse are just brutally bad and likely not falling out of the top 4. Lions Jets Jags Texans won today! I could see at best the #4 pick. I do think that Bears pick stays top 10 which is a win for me in that trade back. Both the Giants and Bears picks could be top 12 or less. If we could get a top 10 pick we couldn't really hope for any better outcome. I know we tend to grade the trade but just getting another 1st rd pick I would think is a win. The Bears are even more snake bit than us. They just don't know how to win, they could easily have 3-4 more wins this season. Just hope they keep losing, and now we have to see if Fields misses any time. That would benefit us imo.
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Post by Parademon1 on Nov 21, 2021 21:01:34 GMT -5
Us picking in the top 6 depends on us going 3-14, 4-13, 5-12 or 6-11, right? We go 7-10, 8-9, that will push us outta the top 10.
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