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Post by TEM on Jul 28, 2021 17:00:51 GMT -5
Finally some insight into what KA does. After reading this. I am glad we have him. giantswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/28/kevin-abrams-much-more-than-new-york-giants-salary-cap-guy/Kevin Abrams is much more than Giants' salary cap guyNew York Giants assistant general manager Kevin Abrams is really just the team’s cap guy, right? Wrong.
During a recent appearance on “Breaking Big Blue with Jordan Raanan,” Abrams shattered the notion that he merely handles the dollars and cents in East Rutherford. In fact, Abrams plays a much larger role for the Giants than anyone — including the team’s beat — realized.
For the past decade and a half, the salary cap hasn’t really been Abrams’ bread and butter. Rather, he and the team have handed those duties off to Matt Harris (currently director of football administration with the Arizona Cardinals), Martin Mayhew (currently general manager of the Washington Football Team) and, more recently, Ed Triggs, who serves as the director of football operations for the Giants.
“The truth is, for the last 15 years, Matt Harris, Martin Mayhew and Triggs have been our cap guys more so than I have. I might be over the shoulder a little bit or might have some direction,” Abrams said. “Ultimately, I suppose the buck rests with me and then Ernie [Accorsi], Jerry [Reese] or Dave [Gettleman], whoever the GM is. But we’ve empowered other people to really manage our day-to-day salary cap and our contract structures and to some extent our negotiation positions. Although that’s sort of when myself and our personnel people and the GMs will get more involved. But I haven’t really been our cap guy in a while.”
Abrams says the salary cap doesn’t really require much oversight anymore and that Triggs is better at managing it than he ever was. He felt Harris and Mayhew were as well.
So, what does Abrams do? A lot of everything, as it turns out. That includes taking part in the head coaching searches. He was present during interviews with multiple candidates, including Pat Shurmur prior to his hiring and Joe Judge prior to his hiring.
“My involvement is whatever it is that I’m asked to contribute,” Abrams said. “I just follow the lead of my bosses. If Dave says go look at the quarterbacks, I go look at the quarterbacks. If John Mara asks me to sit in on coaching interviews, then I am going to sit in on the coaching interviews and contribute the best I can.”
Although Abrams has interviewed for three vacant GM jobs (including two with the Giants) and does have aspirations of taking on that role some day, he believes his current position is better than most GM jobs across the league.
“I’m also in a position where I think the job I have now is better than a lot of general manager jobs in the league, very honestly,” Abrams said. “It’s who I work for, who I work with and where I get to work. I’m in the best city in the world, I’m working for the greatest ownership in professional sports and I’m with people that I’ve either worked with forever or that I’ve had a hand in bringing on board and have a tremendous amount of respect for.
“There’s not a day I don’t go into the Giants and I’m not reminded of how fortunate I am to be doing what I’m doing, who I am doing it with and where I’m doing it. |
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Post by McCherry on Jul 28, 2021 17:08:11 GMT -5
*Spoiler alert*
That interview with Ranaan is the most boring 30 minutes of your life.
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 28, 2021 17:09:14 GMT -5
He’s been here 22 years. I’m sure he has many hats with the organization..
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 28, 2021 17:21:09 GMT -5
*Spoiler alert* that interview with Ranaan is the most boring 30 minutes of your life. Agreed. His personality fell asleep of boredom once he opened his mouth. A funeral is more livelier than an Abrams interview. He’s so boring, telemarketers hang up on him.. |
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 28, 2021 17:28:05 GMT -5
So how much can we blame on him? Or does he get the Joe Judge "I only make the good decisions, not the ones you don't like" treatment? Asking for a friend lol. Seems like a good guy to have. “There’s not a day I don’t go into the Giants and I’m not reminded of how fortunate I am to be doing what I’m doing, who I am doing it with and where I’m doing it."
PS- When you said KA I thought this was about KAdarious Toney for some reason.
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Post by DandyDon on Jul 28, 2021 17:39:45 GMT -5
*Spoiler alert* that interview with Ranaan is the most boring 30 minutes of your life. Agreed. His personality fell asleep of boredom once he opened his mouth. A funeral is more livelier than an Abrams interview. He’s so boring, telemarketers hang up on him.. Why would a guy in his position need to be exciting or a good interview? |
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 28, 2021 17:45:50 GMT -5
Agreed. His personality fell asleep of boredom once he opened his mouth. A funeral is more livelier than an Abrams interview. He’s so boring, telemarketers hang up on him.. Why would a guy in his position need to be exciting or a good interview? He’s in a profession where emotion is important. Give me something, not the monotone voice that puts people to sleep. Who the hell would listen to this borefest if he was our GM? He doesn’t have to be Eddie Murphy. However, if I’m the Giants; I’m keeping him away from a microphone. As much as I rag on Gettleman. He brings enthusiasm to his interviews. It might be met with deaf ears, but the man has emotion. Something Abrams has only read about. |
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Post by TEM on Jul 28, 2021 17:53:59 GMT -5
Why would a guy in his position need to be exciting or a good interview? He’s in a profession where emotion is important. Give me something, not the monotone voice that puts people to sleep. Who the hell would listen to this borefest if he was our GM? He doesn’t have to be Eddie Murphy. However, if I’m the Giants; I’m keeping him away from a microphone. As much as I rag on Gettleman. He brings enthusiasm to his interviews. It might be met with deaf ears, but the man has emotion. Something Abrams has only read about. I think we need his persona . He appears to be levelheaded . |
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 28, 2021 18:00:41 GMT -5
He’s in a profession where emotion is important. Give me something, not the monotone voice that puts people to sleep. Who the hell would listen to this borefest if he was our GM? He doesn’t have to be Eddie Murphy. However, if I’m the Giants; I’m keeping him away from a microphone. As much as I rag on Gettleman. He brings enthusiasm to his interviews. It might be met with deaf ears, but the man has emotion. Something Abrams has only read about. I think we need his persona . He appears to be levelheaded . Being levelheaded is standard in their profession. Start thinking with your emotions, and you end up being a fan instead of an employee. I’m speaking more to his interviews. I’m sure he’s doing something right to still be here for over two decades. |
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Post by IrishMike on Jul 28, 2021 19:55:19 GMT -5
He’s in a profession where emotion is important. Give me something, not the monotone voice that puts people to sleep. Who the hell would listen to this borefest if he was our GM? He doesn’t have to be Eddie Murphy. However, if I’m the Giants; I’m keeping him away from a microphone. As much as I rag on Gettleman. He brings enthusiasm to his interviews. It might be met with deaf ears, but the man has emotion. Something Abrams has only read about. Emotion is the opposite of what I would want in a guy doing his job. An emotional player? Yes. An emotional coach? Sure. An emotional scout/GM/Accountant? Hell no.
Give me that Bill Belichick bored out of his mind lazy answer interview any day.
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Post by DandyDon on Jul 28, 2021 20:24:23 GMT -5
Why would a guy in his position need to be exciting or a good interview? He’s in a profession where emotion is important. Give me something, not the monotone voice that puts people to sleep. Who the hell would listen to this borefest if he was our GM? He doesn’t have to be Eddie Murphy. However, if I’m the Giants; I’m keeping him away from a microphone. As much as I rag on Gettleman. He brings enthusiasm to his interviews. It might be met with deaf ears, but the man has emotion. Something Abrams has only read about. To be fair, you rag on almost everyone, all the time. I've never seen an interview with Abrams, and didn't watch this one. Who cares about the personality of people in management? Not me. You ridicule gettleman for being Boston folksy and animated, and then ridicule Abrams for being dull. You're a hard person to please. |
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 28, 2021 20:26:20 GMT -5
*Spoiler alert* That interview with Ranaan is the most boring 30 minutes of your life. I liked it 🤷♂️ |
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Post by McCherry on Jul 28, 2021 20:29:23 GMT -5
Agreed. His personality fell asleep of boredom once he opened his mouth. A funeral is more livelier than an Abrams interview. He’s so boring, telemarketers hang up on him.. Why would a guy in his position need to be exciting or a good interview? They wouldn't. A GM's job is to build football teams, not entertain fans. Abrams is obviously a very smart football person, I didn't mean to suggest I would have any problem with him being the GM if it came to that. The main reason why I felt it was boring is because he’s not the GM, so it wasn't the type of questions you’d expect in an interview with Gettleman. |
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jul 29, 2021 0:01:59 GMT -5
So you are more familiar with our new GM when Getty leaves.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 6:16:03 GMT -5
So he's been a bigger part of this teams past decade of sucking then we originally knew before this interview.
Can't say I'm "glad we have him" but if fans are then good for you!!
If they have another season like what's being predicted by the talking heads then I'm not a fan of this guy being promoted when they show Getty the door..
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Post by TEM on Jul 29, 2021 6:18:03 GMT -5
So he's been a bigger part of this teams past decade of sucking then we originally knew before this interview. Can't say I'm "glad we have him" but if fans are then good for you!! If they have another season like what's being predicted by the talking heads then I'm not a fan of this guy being promoted when they show Getty the door.. All good points. None the less I am trying to remain optimistic. |
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Post by GameTime on Jul 29, 2021 6:46:35 GMT -5
Bottom line.....its group effort as has been said over and over by the NYGs FO and coaching staff.
While certain titles carry the ultimate responsibility many if not most of the big decisions are made with critical input from several trusted high level people
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Post by jimmieray on Jul 29, 2021 8:26:11 GMT -5
He’s in a profession where emotion is important. Give me something, not the monotone voice that puts people to sleep. Who the hell would listen to this borefest if he was our GM? He doesn’t have to be Eddie Murphy. However, if I’m the Giants; I’m keeping him away from a microphone. As much as I rag on Gettleman. He brings enthusiasm to his interviews. It might be met with deaf ears, but the man has emotion. Something Abrams has only read about. To be fair, you rag on almost everyone, all the time. I've never seen an interview with Abrams, and didn't watch this one. Who cares about the personality of people in management? Not me. You ridicule gettleman for being Boston folksy and animated, and then ridicule Abrams for being dull. You're a hard person to please. I happen to be in Krunch's line of work, and have frequently met with steamfitters and welders on projects on their turf. They will all look you up and down, and provide the frankest, cruel evaluation of what they see. It's actually quite a hoot. |
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 29, 2021 8:58:41 GMT -5
He’s in a profession where emotion is important. Give me something, not the monotone voice that puts people to sleep. Who the hell would listen to this borefest if he was our GM? He doesn’t have to be Eddie Murphy. However, if I’m the Giants; I’m keeping him away from a microphone. As much as I rag on Gettleman. He brings enthusiasm to his interviews. It might be met with deaf ears, but the man has emotion. Something Abrams has only read about. To be fair, you rag on almost everyone, all the time. I've never seen an interview with Abrams, and didn't watch this one. Who cares about the personality of people in management? Not me. You ridicule gettleman for being Boston folksy and animated, and then ridicule Abrams for being dull. You're a hard person to please. You state an opinion on Abrams when you have never heard the man speak? Yeah, that makes sense, at least hear an interview before making an opinion on the matter. Oh please, I don’t rag on everything all the time. This team has been an utter disaster for almost a decade. To spin it any other way would be ridiculous. Fans speak their mind, good or bad. Pick a side instead of being a bystander.. Dave Gettleman is a walking punchline.. However, at least I can deal with his interviews. He’s excited, he’s jovial. Everything Abrams is not. And this has nothing to do with his job with the Giants. But, when you speak for the franchise, and to the fan base. Crack a smile, do something instead of acting like a computer. You don’t care, I do.. I am hard to please. There are thousands of other fans who feel the same way. Doesn’t make me no different than you or any other fan.. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Jul 29, 2021 9:54:07 GMT -5
To be fair, you rag on almost everyone, all the time. I've never seen an interview with Abrams, and didn't watch this one. Who cares about the personality of people in management? Not me. You ridicule gettleman for being Boston folksy and animated, and then ridicule Abrams for being dull. You're a hard person to please. You state an opinion on Abrams when you have never heard the man speak? Yeah, that makes sense, at least hear an interview before making an opinion on the matter. Oh please, I don’t rag on everything all the time. This team has been an utter disaster for almost a decade. To spin it any other way would be ridiculous. Fans speak their mind, good or bad. Pick a side instead of being a bystander.. Dave Gettleman is a walking punchline.. However, at least I can deal with his interviews. He’s excited, he’s jovial. Everything Abrams is not. And this has nothing to do with his job with the Giants. But, when you speak for the franchise, and to the fan base. Crack a smile, do something instead of acting like a computer. You don’t care, I do.. I am hard to please. There are thousands of other fans who feel the same way. Doesn’t make me no different than you or any other fan.. Yeah Gettleman has a personality...even when he had outdated philosophies he was very enthusiastic.. Not to mention every time I hear him speak I get mad cravings for LOBSTAH.( thank God spiny warm water lonstah is actually cheap down here as they border on being invasive there are so many and breed so fast..) |
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Post by GameTime on Jul 29, 2021 11:54:10 GMT -5
To be fair, you rag on almost everyone, all the time. I've never seen an interview with Abrams, and didn't watch this one. Who cares about the personality of people in management? Not me. You ridicule gettleman for being Boston folksy and animated, and then ridicule Abrams for being dull. You're a hard person to please. You state an opinion on Abrams when you have never heard the man speak? Yeah, that makes sense, at least hear an interview before making an opinion on the matter. Oh please, I don’t rag on everything all the time. This team has been an utter disaster for almost a decade. To spin it any other way would be ridiculous. Fans speak their mind, good or bad. Pick a side instead of being a bystander.. Dave Gettleman is a walking punchline.. However, at least I can deal with his interviews. He’s excited, he’s jovial. Everything Abrams is not. And this has nothing to do with his job with the Giants. But, when you speak for the franchise, and to the fan base. Crack a smile, do something instead of acting like a computer. You don’t care, I do.. I am hard to please. There are thousands of other fans who feel the same way. Doesn’t make me no different than you or any other fan.. Jones is unwatchable as well. This kid makes Eli's seem like a carnival barker. He is so dead that I question his intelligence. He doesn't even come up with different boring answers. They are all the same. I know the kid is trying be NY/NJ media savvy but he is painfully boring |
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Post by Kruunch on Jul 29, 2021 15:09:40 GMT -5
You state an opinion on Abrams when you have never heard the man speak? Yeah, that makes sense, at least hear an interview before making an opinion on the matter. Oh please, I don’t rag on everything all the time. This team has been an utter disaster for almost a decade. To spin it any other way would be ridiculous. Fans speak their mind, good or bad. Pick a side instead of being a bystander.. Dave Gettleman is a walking punchline.. However, at least I can deal with his interviews. He’s excited, he’s jovial. Everything Abrams is not. And this has nothing to do with his job with the Giants. But, when you speak for the franchise, and to the fan base. Crack a smile, do something instead of acting like a computer. You don’t care, I do.. I am hard to please. There are thousands of other fans who feel the same way. Doesn’t make me no different than you or any other fan.. Jones is unwatchable as well. This kid makes Eli's seem like a carnival barker. He is so dead that I question his intelligence. He doesn't even come up with different boring answers. They are all the same. I know the kid is trying be NY/NJ media savvy but he is painfully boring His answers are so verbatim, that it comes off that he’s reading off a teleprompter. Reporter: “You really played well today. Came back from 10 in the 4th quarter. Team is finding an identity.” Jones: “Yeah, we work hard all week. And we prepare for everything possible.” Reporter: “You guys are on a bye this week. Any plans for the week off?” Jones: “Yeah, we work hard all week. And we prepare for everything possible.” |
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Post by GameTime on Jul 29, 2021 15:33:20 GMT -5
Jones is unwatchable as well. This kid makes Eli's seem like a carnival barker. He is so dead that I question his intelligence. He doesn't even come up with different boring answers. They are all the same. I know the kid is trying be NY/NJ media savvy but he is painfully boring His answers are so verbatim, that it comes off that he’s reading off a teleprompter. Reporter: “You really played well today. Came back from 10 in the 4th quarter. Team is finding an identity.” Jones: “Yeah, we work hard all week. And we prepare for everything possible.” Reporter: “You guys are on a bye this week. Any plans for the week off?” Jones: “Yeah, we work hard all week. And we prepare for everything possible.” a friend of mine met him on plane going to North Carolina. He tried to chat him just to say hi and he was the same way he is in an interview. I mean it is what it is but like you I like to see some life going in there. |
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