katcavage75
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Post by katcavage75 on Aug 27, 2021 10:17:27 GMT -5
I believe S. Barkely will play in Week 3 Sun 9/26 @ home vs ATL. This is guess is based on the fact that the NYG have 2 games in the first week. Then after the Thursday night WAS game they have 9 days of practice. So he will have 30 more days of no contact practice before the ATL game.
This scenario should have him in peak form and eager to get back to his previous excellence.
GO GIANTS.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 27, 2021 10:41:03 GMT -5
Thats a perfectly viable plan.
However.......Nothing wrong with getting him as soon as he is ready. If that is prior to Falcons game then so be it
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Post by McCherry on Aug 27, 2021 10:55:05 GMT -5
It's a good guess. As good as his rehab is going, there is absolutely no reason for him to be dressed week 1.
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Post by jb456 on Aug 27, 2021 10:57:53 GMT -5
It's a good guess. As good as his rehab is going, there is absolutely no reason for him to be dressed week 1. Agreed. He hasn't even take a hit yet. Suiting him up in game 1 of the regular season would be negligence at this point... |
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Post by Jomo on Aug 27, 2021 11:14:23 GMT -5
If week 3 is good, why isn't week 4 or 5 better?
I think we should follow the medical staff on this one. It could be game 1 or 2 for all we know if they deem his knee and body ready.
There is also a middle ground where he 7-10 touches in a game, to ease his way back. Even then, he should only do it with a knee deemed 100% in terms of strength and rehab.
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 27, 2021 11:26:08 GMT -5
I personally think he will play some snaps in week 1. Everything I see and hear leads me to believe he is ready to get out there. Judge obviously wants to be cautious with him though and not just hammer the gas pedal right away. I do think there is some strategic value to putting him out there week 1. It gives the following opponents something else to think about and consider, which is something Belichick and Saban have always done as a coach.
It's like a trick play. If you spend 2% of your practice time running a trick play and do it in a game, then your next opponent spends 5% of their time preparing for it, that is a net win for your team. So putting Barkley out there for a limited snap count and then mixing in other RBs will give the following teams more things to prepare for.
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 27, 2021 11:28:21 GMT -5
It's a good guess. As good as his rehab is going, there is absolutely no reason for him to be dressed week 1. Agreed. He hasn't even take a hit yet. Suiting him up in game 1 of the regular season would be negligence at this point... But the only way for him to take a hit is by suiting up and playing. Bart Scott talked a lot about this earlier this week. Basically said taking a hit from a teammate means nothing because it isn't close to the real thing. If he is healthy I see no reason to dress him and control how many touches he gets, see how he looks and recovers week by week. If healthy is the key though. |
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Post by jb456 on Aug 27, 2021 11:32:08 GMT -5
Agreed. He hasn't even take a hit yet. Suiting him up in game 1 of the regular season would be negligence at this point... But the only way for him to take a hit is by suiting up and playing. Bart Scott talked a lot about this earlier this week. Basically said taking a hit from a teammate means nothing because it isn't close to the real thing. If he is healthy I see no reason to dress him and control how many touches he gets, see how he looks and recovers week by week. If healthy is the key though. Has he even taken a hit from a teammate yet? If so, I can understand your point. If not, very unlikely for game 1. |
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Post by GameTime on Aug 27, 2021 11:32:59 GMT -5
It's a good guess. As good as his rehab is going, there is absolutely no reason for him to be dressed week 1. unless he is medically cleared to play |
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 27, 2021 11:35:04 GMT -5
But the only way for him to take a hit is by suiting up and playing. Bart Scott talked a lot about this earlier this week. Basically said taking a hit from a teammate means nothing because it isn't close to the real thing. If he is healthy I see no reason to dress him and control how many touches he gets, see how he looks and recovers week by week. If healthy is the key though. Has he even taken a hit from a teammate yet? If so, I can understand your point. If not, very unlikely for game 1. Not positive but I thought he took the red jersey off. Guess we will see. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Aug 27, 2021 11:48:30 GMT -5
I personally think he will play some snaps in week 1. Everything I see and hear leads me to believe he is ready to get out there. Judge obviously wants to be cautious with him though and not just hammer the gas pedal right away. I do think there is some strategic value to putting him out there week 1. It gives the following opponents something else to think about and consider, which is something Belichick and Saban have always done as a coach. It's like a trick play. If you spend 2% of your practice time running a trick play and do it in a game, then your next opponent spends 5% of their time preparing for it, that is a net win for your team. So putting Barkley out there for a limited snap count and then mixing in other RBs will give the following teams more things to prepare for. Same They seem to be comfortable with Booker and Clements... And Penny getting some work tells me they have some interesting ideas in store (2 back set Barkley motions out taking someone with him,jet motion the opposite way at the snap ,defense running all around while a quick hitting run into the A gap gets a very quick 8 to 10 yards... San Fran does this a lot as did Baltimore with Dobbins and Richard |
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Post by Jomo on Aug 27, 2021 12:03:40 GMT -5
How about we suit him in week 1 to put pressure on Denver's DC to prepare for him?
He doesn't need to get a bunch of touches to have impact.
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Post by McCherry on Aug 27, 2021 12:19:17 GMT -5
It's a good guess. As good as his rehab is going, there is absolutely no reason for him to be dressed week 1. unless he is medically cleared to play If he’s practicing, he’s cleared medically. |
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Post by Roswell on Aug 27, 2021 12:20:05 GMT -5
A couple of low risk touches week 1.
More plays in the short week 2.
Then a decent load week 3 after 10 days off.
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Post by GameTime on Aug 27, 2021 12:22:14 GMT -5
unless he is medically cleared to play If he’s practicing, he’s cleared medically. is being cleared medically for practice the same as ready to play in games? |
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Post by McCherry on Aug 27, 2021 12:22:31 GMT -5
I personally think he will play some snaps in week 1. Everything I see and hear leads me to believe he is ready to get out there. Judge obviously wants to be cautious with him though and not just hammer the gas pedal right away. I do think there is some strategic value to putting him out there week 1. It gives the following opponents something else to think about and consider, which is something Belichick and Saban have always done as a coach. It's like a trick play. If you spend 2% of your practice time running a trick play and do it in a game, then your next opponent spends 5% of their time preparing for it, that is a net win for your team. So putting Barkley out there for a limited snap count and then mixing in other RBs will give the following teams more things to prepare for. I think there is a chance he could see a few snaps. Really depends on how you want to use that active roster spot. |
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Post by Merlin on Aug 27, 2021 12:58:57 GMT -5
I believe S. Barkely will play in Week 3 Sun 9/26 @ home vs ATL. This is guess is based on the fact that the NYG have 2 games in the first week. Then after the Thursday night WAS game they have 9 days of practice. So he will have 30 more days of no contact practice before the ATL game. This scenario should have him in peak form and eager to get back to his previous excellence. GO GIANTS. He would most split likely 50-50 snaps with Booker that 2nd game vs Wash. Then have the extra days to recover for ATL. That makes the most sense if he is ready to go week 1. |
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Post by piddy283 on Aug 28, 2021 12:43:06 GMT -5
I believe S. Barkely will play in Week 3 Sun 9/26 @ home vs ATL. This is guess is based on the fact that the NYG have 2 games in the first week. Then after the Thursday night WAS game they have 9 days of practice. So he will have 30 more days of no contact practice before the ATL game. This scenario should have him in peak form and eager to get back to his previous excellence. GO GIANTS. I believe he plays week 1, but I actually like your train of thought. I think Denver is going to be tougher than people give them credit for, and Washington is going to be stout. If we could go 1-1 in those two games, and have Barkley back for week 3, that'd be just fine with me. |
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Post by leonperry on Aug 28, 2021 19:10:53 GMT -5
How about we suit him in week 1 to put pressure on Denver's DC to prepare for him? He doesn't need to get a bunch of touches to have impact. ha, I like it... Saquon can positively impact an individual outcome of a given play as a decoy , maybe him suited up standing on the sidelines a a decoy the whole time can positively influence the outcome of the game itself... now if LT is not getting into any trouble, dust off his # 56 and give him a call so he can chat with SB on the sidelines.. |
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Post by trueblueatnyc on Aug 28, 2021 20:52:06 GMT -5
I think he plays week 1. He's been participating in 11 on 11 drills, so he's making all of his cuts and there is still two weeks until the seasons starts.
It looks to me like he'll be ready week 1, even if they limit him to a max of 15 touches that week.
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 29, 2021 6:11:43 GMT -5
How about we suit him in week 1 to put pressure on Denver's DC to prepare for him? He doesn't need to get a bunch of touches to have impact. ha, I like it... Saquon can positively impact an individual outcome of a given play as a decoy , maybe him suited up standing on the sidelines a a decoy the whole time can positively influence the outcome of the game itself... now if LT is not getting into any trouble, dust off his # 56 and give him a call so he can chat with SB on the sidelines.. kinda like the Willis Reed game, intimidate them into submission!! |
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Post by TEM on Aug 29, 2021 6:39:52 GMT -5
He will get the ball week one snap 1.
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Post by JoeyCush on Aug 29, 2021 7:41:02 GMT -5
He will get the ball week one snap 1. Play action bootleg Jones hits Engram for 6 yards. Calling my shot. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 7:43:02 GMT -5
Never
They are going to put him in freezer wrap and save him for next year....he's far too valuable as a human to play a game in arguably the most important year as a Giants fan.
Of course I kid...when 100%....run him until his legs fall off, and then get a new running back.
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Post by BlueReign on Aug 29, 2021 9:42:05 GMT -5
I’d guess, full practice (no red jersey) leading up to DEN, scratched on game day. ~10 touches on the Thursday gam and full go for Week 3 (health permitting).
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 29, 2021 10:20:06 GMT -5
I’d guess, full practice (no red jersey) leading up to DEN, scratched on game day. ~10 touches on the Thursday gam and full go for Week 3 (health permitting). that would be a more than acceptable process as far as I'm concerned. |
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Post by IrishMike on Aug 29, 2021 11:49:35 GMT -5
He got 10-12 touches with the red jersey on against NE. Won't play tonight at all. I guess over the next two weeks we will see how much his workload is increased.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Aug 29, 2021 11:51:09 GMT -5
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