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Post by Dogecoin on Sept 10, 2021 5:20:52 GMT -5
Dallas plan was to pass since TB has a top run defense. Zeke was a non factor. Terrible game plan Even KC ran it last year when Tampa played full zone They got away with it because the Bucs secondary was decimated but that's not a sustainable strategy.. And it's not like they didn't do this last year either The entire concept of having dynamic playmakers on tbe field all over is to force teams into having to defend tbe entire field ...then run it Zeke sucks. They basically admitted it last night. He's not even average, yet he's highest paid RB in NFL ...lol
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 10, 2021 5:42:30 GMT -5
Dallas plan was to pass since TB has a top run defense. Zeke was a non factor. Terrible game plan Even KC ran it last year when Tampa played full zone They got away with it because the Bucs secondary was decimated but that's not a sustainable strategy.. And it's not like they didn't do this last year either The entire concept of having dynamic playmakers on tbe field all over is to force teams into having to defend tbe entire field ...then run it KC lost their OL last year and Mahomes had no time to throw. The strategy was different IMO. I agree with you that Dallas abandons the run too often (but most of that was with Garrett). It plagues them. Dallas figured they wouldn't be able to run the ball and TBs weakness was the secondary. The ratio was still horrendous. 58 pass attempts vs 14 designed runs in a game that Dallas was leading on and off and was never out of reach either way. Need to run more, but the strategy was working until the defense couldn't stop Brady that last drive. And yes, that was OPI on that last pass and catch. Bummer though.... lol
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Post by GameTime on Sept 10, 2021 6:36:49 GMT -5
Not every penalty gets called
Sloppy play happens
First game of the season rust
Brady is great
Dak's recovery seems good to go. He is a very good QB
There will be games that Zeke will be the key. Cant stand him but he is a very good RB
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 10, 2021 6:49:41 GMT -5
Not every penalty gets called Sloppy play happens First game of the season rust Brady is great Dak's recovery seems good to go. He is a very good QB There will be games that Zeke will be the key. Cant stand him but he is a very good RB I don’t think that Zeke looked very good at all last night
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Post by GameTime on Sept 10, 2021 7:43:54 GMT -5
Not every penalty gets called Sloppy play happens First game of the season rust Brady is great Dak's recovery seems good to go. He is a very good QB There will be games that Zeke will be the key. Cant stand him but he is a very good RB I don’t think that Zeke looked very good at all last night no he didnt but its one game and I think he will have a good season overall and will take over games here and there I dont want him to but its just a guess.
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Post by Miked1958 on Sept 10, 2021 7:55:01 GMT -5
I agree his stats tend to look good. But when you break it down you realize hes lacking. Again partly because his WRs make up for a lot of his limitations. But look at the last two red zone possessions he was gifted by the his defense, which both ended in FG attempts. First one he threw it out of bounds to Lamb on a corner end zone route. 2nd one should have picked off by two defenders it was so badly underthrown. Also Consider the exceptional protection from the offensive line. He sucks You do realize this Bucs defense is one of the best in the NFL right? They shut down the Chiefs in the last game they played. SB. I don't buy that he is not a good QB. He is unmeasurably better than our QB right now. And a top 10 when he is healthy. I agree. Its hard to admit your rival you thought was going to stink may actually be the best team in our division. Jones woukd kill just for Daks halftime stats.
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Post by Miked1958 on Sept 10, 2021 7:58:12 GMT -5
Wow. What a freaking throw by Dak again for a big TD to Cooper. Dak now 35-47 331 yards 3 TDs to 1 tipped INT Still mid 3rd Having an unbelievable game tonight As is Brady of course. this is mainly same D outside of best DB out with injury and one that got hurt during game that held KC to 9 points with no TDs in SB
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Post by Dogecoin on Sept 10, 2021 7:58:57 GMT -5
Not every penalty gets called Sloppy play happens First game of the season rust Brady is great Dak's recovery seems good to go. He is a very good QB There will be games that Zeke will be the key. Cant stand him but he is a very good RB I don’t think that Zeke looked very good at all last night he looked both lighter and slower than usual...not the trade off players want. Anyway it's no secret he's been in serious decline since the big contract, to the point it's taken for granted that neither cowboys offense nor opposing defense keys on him.
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Post by Miked1958 on Sept 10, 2021 8:09:12 GMT -5
Baaahaaaaa Cowhumper fans crying over the non offensive PI call... they should. It was obvious OPI. Dallas prob wins if they make that call. You know for a fact giants nation would crying from the rooftops if that happened to us. For once refs didnt favor dallas who has gotten their fair share of help from refs over the years Looks like the league didnt want TB to lose on opening night and they probably would have if not for the no call
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 10, 2021 8:09:25 GMT -5
I don’t think that Zeke looked very good at all last night he looked both lighter and slower than usual...not the trade off players want. Anyway it's no secret he's been in serious decline since the big contract, to the point it's taken for granted that neither cowboys offense nor opposing defense keys on him. That appears to be the case. Paying a 2nd contract for a RB that demands top dollar isnt smart. It will be interesting to see what we do with Barkley. Zeke is still a very good RB, and will take over at times, but he looks smaller for sure. Maybe it was just those nasty boys up front on TBs DL though.
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Post by repeatchamps on Sept 10, 2021 9:04:30 GMT -5
Baaahaaaaa Cowhumper fans crying over the non offensive PI call... Lol. The defender also had his hands on the WR's jersey way before the ball was there. Was a good non-call imho. It was hand fighting and at that point of the game basically that kind of thing will rarely get called either way.
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 10, 2021 9:28:02 GMT -5
Did anyone else think that Dak didn't seem to have much velocity on his throws? Didn't matter much in this game, and it may not matter overall given the weapons that he has, but I thought that he floated the ball in there a lot last night ....
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Post by repeatchamps on Sept 10, 2021 9:33:31 GMT -5
Did anyone else think that Dak didn't seem to have much velocity on his throws? Didn't matter much in this game, and it may not matter overall given the weapons that he has, but I thought that he floated the ball in there a lot last night .... Noticed that as well. Tight spiral was not present a lot of the time also. Could be some jitters too. They cannot rely on him to throw 58 times regularly for sure lol nor should any team ask that of their QB. That really is a ludicrous number of pass attempts.
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 10, 2021 9:35:56 GMT -5
Did anyone else think that Dak didn't seem to have much velocity on his throws? Didn't matter much in this game, and it may not matter overall given the weapons that he has, but I thought that he floated the ball in there a lot last night .... Noticed that as well. Tight spiral was not present a lot of the time also. Could be some jitters too. They cannot rely on him to throw 58 times regularly for sure lol nor should any team ask that of their QB. That really is a ludicrous number of pass attempts. Thought the same thing ... the guy is playing his first game in a year and had a shoulder issue in the summer and they have him throw 58 times?
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 10, 2021 9:50:04 GMT -5
Noticed that as well. Tight spiral was not present a lot of the time also. Could be some jitters too. They cannot rely on him to throw 58 times regularly for sure lol nor should any team ask that of their QB. That really is a ludicrous number of pass attempts. Thought the same thing ... the guy is playing his first game in a year and had a shoulder issue in the summer and they have him throw 58 times? Its exactly what we have seen from this team the past 17 years They pile up major offensive stats Catch a bunch of breaks (winning the turnover battle 4-1) Yet somehow find a way to lose it Defense still isn't good at all .. They are still what they are A high end nuisance type team that possibly makes the playoffs and gets knocked out early
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 10, 2021 9:55:05 GMT -5
Jets lose a weapon for Sunday
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Sept 10, 2021 10:03:00 GMT -5
Interesting take by Giant fans I guess, I'm the only Cowboy fan that hangs around here. I'll opine on what my takeaways from the game are.
--- It was definitely OPI at the end of the game but that said missed calls are part of the game. And the way Brady was having his way with the Cow defense who's to say that even if Tampon had got called for the PI that they wouldn't have still find a way to score. Now 2 things to bridge from this poi nt
#1 Zebras played way to big a part in that game. Way too many yellow flags
#2 Dallas defense has a bunch of new faces, new scheme, and new DC. At some point they'll have 3-4 rookies starting on defense ( 2are on IR right now and due back soon including their 340lb 1 tech DT).
--- Dak played exceeding better than I thought he would including mixing in a couple of RPO's
--- Dallas passed a lot because that was where Tampon's weakness was and because their strength was stuffing the run. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
--- I was impressed at how Dallas' o-line played overall. Considering Zach Martin was out they were excellent.
--- Dallas could very easily start the season 0-2. No cakewalk next week in LA. The D will improve over the year, they played hard for 60 minutes as did the whole team. Dallas' FG kick game sux . . . again! Kellen Moore called an excellent game using short passes to supplant the running game.
--- IMO this was no moral victory. Dallas looked better than most prognosticators thought they would. When the schedule came out I could see that the team had a mountain to climb playing the defending champs, intact 22 starters, coming off a 6-10 season in which their D was notoriously bad under Nolan's system. But as said above, Dallas is 0-1. They will need to sustain the intensity they displayed last night all season to have a winning record with this young D.
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Sept 10, 2021 10:05:32 GMT -5
Did anyone else think that Dak didn't seem to have much velocity on his throws? Didn't matter much in this game, and it may not matter overall given the weapons that he has, but I thought that he floated the ball in there a lot last night .... He isn't known for his arm strength and did short stroke several passes last night. But he did smoke a few in there too. What I noticed in either his play of the OC calls was no stretching the defense with the long ball.
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Post by Nite on Sept 10, 2021 10:17:11 GMT -5
Rushing game non-existent for both teams. TB should have salted the game away late in the 4th. They are lucky that Brady did what he does. The D for both was also quite weak. Not sure if the Bucs repeat given what we saw last night. If either team has even a remotely decent defense then its a blowout
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 10, 2021 10:17:56 GMT -5
Interesting take by Giant fans I guess, I'm the only Cowboy fan that hangs around here. I'll opine on what my takeaways from the game are. --- It was definitely OPI at the end of the game but that said missed calls are part of the game. And the way Brady was having his way with the Cow defense who's to say that even if Tampon had got called for the PI that they wouldn't have still find a way to score. Now 2 things to bridge from this poi nt #1 Zebras played way to big a part in that game. Way too many yellow flags #2 Dallas defense has a bunch of new faces, new scheme, and new DC. At some point they'll have 3-4 rookies starting on defense ( 2are on IR right now and due back soon including their 340lb 1 tech DT). --- Dak played exceeding better than I thought he would including mixing in a couple of RPO's --- Dallas passed a lot because that was where Tampon's weakness was and because their strength was stuffing the run. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. --- I was impressed at how Dallas' o-line played overall. Considering Zach Martin was out they were excellent. --- Dallas could very easily start the season 0-2. No cakewalk next week in LA. The D will improve over the year, they played hard for 60 minutes as did the whole team. Dallas' FG kick game sux . . . again! Kellen Moore called an excellent game using short passes to supplant the running game. --- IMO this was no moral victory. Dallas looked better than most prognosticators thought they would. When the schedule came out I could see that the team had a mountain to climb playing the defending champs, intact 22 starters, coming off a 6-10 season in which their D was notoriously bad under Nolan's system. But as said above, Dallas is 0-1. They will need to sustain the intensity they displayed last night all season to have a winning record with this young D. Can't disagree with any of this.
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Post by TCHOF on Sept 10, 2021 10:18:34 GMT -5
Anyone else notice how nicely Drew Brees's hair grew back since he stopped playing football?
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Post by Dogecoin on Sept 10, 2021 10:20:17 GMT -5
he looked both lighter and slower than usual...not the trade off players want. Anyway it's no secret he's been in serious decline since the big contract, to the point it's taken for granted that neither cowboys offense nor opposing defense keys on him. That appears to be the case. Paying a 2nd contract for a RB that demands top dollar isnt smart. It will be interesting to see what we do with Barkley. Zeke is still a very good RB, and will take over at times, but he looks smaller for sure. Maybe it was just those nasty boys up front on TBs DL though. no way the two most enduring franchises - Steelers and pats - give him that contract.
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Post by dvision on Sept 10, 2021 13:00:08 GMT -5
Interesting take by Giant fans I guess, I'm the only Cowboy fan that hangs around here. I'll opine on what my takeaways from the game are. --- It was definitely OPI at the end of the game but that said missed calls are part of the game. And the way Brady was having his way with the Cow defense who's to say that even if Tampon had got called for the PI that they wouldn't have still find a way to score. Now 2 things to bridge from this poi nt #1 Zebras played way to big a part in that game. Way too many yellow flags #2 Dallas defense has a bunch of new faces, new scheme, and new DC. At some point they'll have 3-4 rookies starting on defense ( 2are on IR right now and due back soon including their 340lb 1 tech DT). --- Dak played exceeding better than I thought he would including mixing in a couple of RPO's --- Dallas passed a lot because that was where Tampon's weakness was and because their strength was stuffing the run. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. --- I was impressed at how Dallas' o-line played overall. Considering Zach Martin was out they were excellent. --- Dallas could very easily start the season 0-2. No cakewalk next week in LA. The D will improve over the year, they played hard for 60 minutes as did the whole team. Dallas' FG kick game sux . . . again! Kellen Moore called an excellent game using short passes to supplant the running game. --- IMO this was no moral victory. Dallas looked better than most prognosticators thought they would. When the schedule came out I could see that the team had a mountain to climb playing the defending champs, intact 22 starters, coming off a 6-10 season in which their D was notoriously bad under Nolan's system. But as said above, Dallas is 0-1. They will need to sustain the intensity they displayed last night all season to have a winning record with this young D. How often do you expect the D to get 4 turnovers?
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Post by JoeyCush on Sept 10, 2021 13:38:46 GMT -5
Going against one of the best run stopping defenses in the league, I wont make too much about Zeke's performance especially with only 11 caries. But the play where he bounced outside and got thrown to the ground by Andrew Adams was odd. I feel like Zeke normally breaks that.
Anyway, Dallas is easily the favorite to win this division. They are legit. As long as Dak is healthy, I dont see any reason they arent the winners of the NFCE.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 10, 2021 16:28:20 GMT -5
Going against one of the best run stopping defenses in the league, I wont make too much about Zeke's performance especially with only 11 caries. But the play where he bounced outside and got thrown to the ground by Andrew Adams was odd. I feel like Zeke normally breaks that. Anyway, Dallas is easily the favorite to win this division. They are legit. As long as Dak is healthy, I dont see any reason they arent the winners of the NFCE. Don't underestimate that Washington defense.
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 10, 2021 19:19:56 GMT -5
Baaahaaaaa Cowhumper fans crying over the non offensive PI call... they should. It was obvious OPI. Dallas prob wins if they make that call. You know for a fact giants nation would crying from the rooftops if that happened to us. For once refs didnt favor dallas who has gotten their fair share of help from refs over the years Looks like the league didnt want TB to lose on opening night and they probably would have if not for the no call
I disagree. Looks like some bad acting.
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Sept 11, 2021 0:09:27 GMT -5
Interesting take by Giant fans I guess, I'm the only Cowboy fan that hangs around here. I'll opine on what my takeaways from the game are. --- It was definitely OPI at the end of the game but that said missed calls are part of the game. And the way Brady was having his way with the Cow defense who's to say that even if Tampon had got called for the PI that they wouldn't have still find a way to score. Now 2 things to bridge from this poi nt #1 Zebras played way to big a part in that game. Way too many yellow flags #2 Dallas defense has a bunch of new faces, new scheme, and new DC. At some point they'll have 3-4 rookies starting on defense ( 2are on IR right now and due back soon including their 340lb 1 tech DT). --- Dak played exceeding better than I thought he would including mixing in a couple of RPO's --- Dallas passed a lot because that was where Tampon's weakness was and because their strength was stuffing the run. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. --- I was impressed at how Dallas' o-line played overall. Considering Zach Martin was out they were excellent. --- Dallas could very easily start the season 0-2. No cakewalk next week in LA. The D will improve over the year, they played hard for 60 minutes as did the whole team. Dallas' FG kick game sux . . . again! Kellen Moore called an excellent game using short passes to supplant the running game. --- IMO this was no moral victory. Dallas looked better than most prognosticators thought they would. When the schedule came out I could see that the team had a mountain to climb playing the defending champs, intact 22 starters, coming off a 6-10 season in which their D was notoriously bad under Nolan's system. But as said above, Dallas is 0-1. They will need to sustain the intensity they displayed last night all season to have a winning record with this young D. How often do you expect the D to get 4 turnovers? I guess I see where you are going with this. So let's analyze the turnovers or more specifically the turnover differential which was -3 for the Tampon Bait crew. Can we negate the Hail Mary interception at the end of the 1st half where time expired. No way Dallas can turn that into points as Lewis is not going to return that int into a TD. It was a nifty runback though. Ends the half. So that is not a drive resulting int.. Let's make that turnover diff now a -2 . Still should result in an advantage (and it did . . . 9 points). But let's look deeper still. Fat Mac decides to try a 60 yard FG with his defective kicker . . . this is essentially a turnover. Gives Brady 20 seconds from midfield to get within FG position themselves but led to the Hail Mary. So still Tampon had the chance to score and failed. The 60 yard FG was essentially a turnover because it turned the ball over to TB. This makes the turn-over diff just -1. This is reality. But you did ask a question, so here's my answer with some editorializing. I don't expect them to get 4 turnovers again in a single game the rest of the season. I don't expect them to play an intact, well seasoned SB winner again soon either.
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Post by dvision on Sept 11, 2021 0:24:27 GMT -5
How often do you expect the D to get 4 turnovers? I guess I see where you are going with this. So let's analyze the turnovers or more specifically the turnover differential which was -3 for the Tampon Bait crew. Can we negate the Hail Mary interception at the end of the 1st half where time expired. No way Dallas can turn that into points as Lewis is not going to return that int into a TD. It was a nifty runback though. Ends the half. So that is not a drive resulting int.. Let's make that turnover diff now a -2 . Still should result in an advantage (and it did . . . 9 points). But let's look deeper still. Fat Mac decides to try a 60 yard FG with his defective kicker . . . this is essentially a turnover. Gives Brady 20 seconds from midfield to get within FG position themselves but led to the Hail Mary. So still Tampon had the chance to score and failed. The 60 yard FG was essentially a turnover because it turned the ball over to TB. This makes the turn-over diff just -1. This is reality. But you did ask a question, so here's my answer with some editorializing. I don't expect them to get 4 turnovers again in a single game the rest of the season. I don't expect them to play an intact, well seasoned SB winner again soon either. Essentially? Missed field goals are turnover on downs not forced turnovers but whatever makes you feel better. They turned the ball over inside their 20 resulting in 6 points and fumbled the ball at your 1... that's a 13point swing right there... I don't care how intact Tampa was supposedly they made some errors and their secondary was a mess.. it was game 1
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Post by JoeyCush on Sept 11, 2021 7:13:06 GMT -5
Going against one of the best run stopping defenses in the league, I wont make too much about Zeke's performance especially with only 11 caries. But the play where he bounced outside and got thrown to the ground by Andrew Adams was odd. I feel like Zeke normally breaks that. Anyway, Dallas is easily the favorite to win this division. They are legit. As long as Dak is healthy, I dont see any reason they arent the winners of the NFCE. Don't underestimate that Washington defense. I am underestimating their Offense.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 11, 2021 7:51:46 GMT -5
Don't underestimate that Washington defense. I am underestimating their Offense. Comparable to ours. Weak OL. Some good WRs. They have a hell of a TE, we have a hell of a RB when healthy. And their QB is more proven but just as erratic. I'm worried about seeing Young and Sweat vs Thomas and Solder next Thursday.
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