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Post by Martin on Sept 12, 2021 18:46:51 GMT -5
He is not a grind it back. He does not run with power and its a waste of precious money. Money that is needed to create a winning football team!
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Post by southerner on Sept 12, 2021 18:59:05 GMT -5
He is not a grind it back. He does not run with power and its a waste of precious money. Money that is needed to create a winning football team! Better yet trade him…feature him next game and if he does well, trade him. This whole team needs to be flushed down the toilet, but trading them gives the Giants draft choices to try again with a new GM and HC. |
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Post by drew on Sept 12, 2021 19:02:45 GMT -5
Not only will they extend Barkley, Dave Gettleman is gonna make him the highest RB in the league. It's his prized first pick heading the Giants at #2 overall.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 12, 2021 19:04:50 GMT -5
He is not a grind it back. He does not run with power and its a waste of precious money. Money that is needed to create a winning football team! I guess you missed that 3rd down conversion he made where he powered inside What do you want,a big slow poke plodder that only runs up the middle holding the ball with both hands for 3 a play? |
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Post by redeyejedi on Sept 12, 2021 19:15:35 GMT -5
He is not a grind it back. He does not run with power and its a waste of precious money. Money that is needed to create a winning football team! I guess you missed that 3rd down conversion he made where he powered inside What do you want,a big slow poke plodder that only runs up the middle holding the ball with both hands for 3 a play? The one where the offensive line pushed him across the line? |
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 12, 2021 19:16:57 GMT -5
I guess you missed that 3rd down conversion he made where he powered inside What do you want,a big slow poke plodder that only runs up the middle holding the ball with both hands for 3 a play? The one where the offensive line pushed him across the line? You mean where he pushed foward ? |
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Post by SG88 on Sept 12, 2021 19:20:20 GMT -5
He is not a grind it back. He does not run with power and its a waste of precious money. Money that is needed to create a winning football team! Barkley is still an excellent running back. The Giants backed themselves into the corner by drafting him at 2nd overall. I also don't agree that not paying Barkley will help this team get better. They are on the verge of wasting a QB's entire rookie deal by not fielding a good product. Nothing against Barkley, but the Giants shit the bed drafting a running back 2nd overall when it was clear as day to everyone not named John Mara and Dave Gettleman that the Giants needed a new QB. |
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Post by piddy283 on Sept 12, 2021 19:23:26 GMT -5
Barkley had no burst. He doesn't seem 100%.
To say we shouldn't extend his contract is silly though, at this point.
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Post by redeyejedi on Sept 12, 2021 19:24:44 GMT -5
He is not a grind it back. He does not run with power and its a waste of precious money. Money that is needed to create a winning football team! Better yet trade him…feature him next game and if he does well, trade him. This whole team needs to be flushed down the toilet, but trading them gives the Giants draft choices to try again with a new GM and HC. He is owed 8 million next year. No one is trading for him. The whole Gettleman era is a colossal failure and it started with that draft pick. We had a roster devoid of young talent, an aged out QB, and we take a RB at #2 in the draft. |
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Post by jay051 on Sept 12, 2021 19:36:34 GMT -5
Barkley had no burst. He doesn't seem 100%. To say we shouldn't extend his contract is silly though, at this point. Lol. This is what we do every year after a loss. Had we won and SB ran for over 100 yds and a couple tds?? We would be seeing 4 yr contracts extensions and best rb in the world threads.😅 |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Sept 12, 2021 19:39:09 GMT -5
While I never agreed with the pick when he was drafted, OJ Simpson in his prime couldn't run behind this OL. They got absolutely no push in the running game at all. He had absolutely nowhere to run.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 19:48:52 GMT -5
While I never agreed with the pick when he was drafted, OJ Simpson in his prime couldn't run behind this OL. They got absolutely no push in the running game at all. He had absolutely nowhere to run. I don’t think it’s the whole line though. I think Solder is an issue. I think we should get another Center and maybe move Gates. |
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Post by fifthavephil on Sept 12, 2021 19:50:06 GMT -5
Not only will they extend Barkley, Dave Gettleman is gonna make him the highest RB in the league. It's his prized first pick heading the Giants at #2 overall. Mara and DG |
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Sept 12, 2021 19:52:26 GMT -5
Barkley had no burst. He doesn't seem 100%. To say we shouldn't extend his contract is silly though, at this point. You don't extend his contract because RBs can be drafted after the 3rd round and give similar production. This league isn't built off that position anymore. |
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Post by smitty on Sept 12, 2021 19:53:58 GMT -5
He doesn’t run hard and looks for open space to avoid contact at all costs. He’s a third down back.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 12, 2021 19:57:32 GMT -5
He is not a grind it back. He does not run with power and its a waste of precious money. Money that is needed to create a winning football team! Barkley is still an excellent running back. The Giants backed themselves into the corner by drafting him at 2nd overall. I also don't agree that not paying Barkley will help this team get better. They are on the verge of wasting a QB's entire rookie deal by not fielding a good product. Nothing against Barkley, but the Giants shit the bed drafting a running back 2nd overall when it was clear as day to everyone not named John Mara and Dave Gettleman that the Giants needed a new QB. From what I heard Shurmur only liked Mayfield....he was making the choice as he was the guy basically brought in to find Eli's replacement..(interestingly had they kept Mac he would have been all in on Allen ) They didn't want to force a QB pick .. That's not where GETTLEMAN shit the bed..you know where I say he messed up |
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Post by Martin on Sept 12, 2021 20:07:50 GMT -5
Barkley had no burst. He doesn't seem 100%. To say we shouldn't extend his contract is silly though, at this point. You don't extend his contract because RBs can be drafted after the 3rd round and give similar production. This league isn't built off that position anymore. You cannot justify paying him big dollars when this team is failing to win for years. Hi part in the correction of this team is not significant. The team needs better value. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Sept 12, 2021 20:45:11 GMT -5
Wow, it's finally sunk in huh?
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Sept 12, 2021 20:45:45 GMT -5
He is not a grind it back. He does not run with power and its a waste of precious money. Money that is needed to create a winning football team! Barkley is still an excellent running back. The Giants backed themselves into the corner by drafting him at 2nd overall. I also don't agree that not paying Barkley will help this team get better. They are on the verge of wasting a QB's entire rookie deal by not fielding a good product. Nothing against Barkley, but the Giants shit the bed drafting a running back 2nd overall when it was clear as day to everyone not named John Mara and Dave Gettleman that the Giants needed a new QB. Maybe he has been over hyped. I dont think excellent back, i think excellent potential. but injuries offensive line . put on a rebuilding team has held him back . we should have never drafted him knowing we needed a QB but gettlemen coundt or didnt want to see it. trade out and draft josh allen there(and thats not hindsight) i said it draft day. |
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Post by Martin on Sept 12, 2021 20:55:19 GMT -5
Barkley is still an excellent running back. The Giants backed themselves into the corner by drafting him at 2nd overall. I also don't agree that not paying Barkley will help this team get better. They are on the verge of wasting a QB's entire rookie deal by not fielding a good product. Nothing against Barkley, but the Giants shit the bed drafting a running back 2nd overall when it was clear as day to everyone not named John Mara and Dave Gettleman that the Giants needed a new QB. Maybe he has been over hyped. I dont think excellent back, i think excellent potential. but injuries offensive line . put on a rebuilding team has held him back . we should have never drafted him knowing we needed a QB but gettlemen coundt or didnt want to see it. trade out and draft josh allen there(and thats not hindsight) i said it draft day. I agree drafting Barkley was a terrible mistake. This team needed a QB and offensive linemen. Right now it's a big mess. |
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Post by Dogecoin on Sept 12, 2021 20:57:53 GMT -5
He is not a grind it back. He does not run with power and its a waste of precious money. Money that is needed to create a winning football team! first game back after injury not best to judge. But the team as a whole cam be judged, and they stunk. |
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Post by lt56 on Sept 12, 2021 21:06:36 GMT -5
Yeah I wouldn't pay any RB today big Money, so it is nothing against Barkley
Look like he recovered from that Knee injury very well he still has that burst but that Line in front of him still not that good. "Whiff" Hernandez is a BUST get him out of here too that guy is SOFT! Solder one of our worst Free Agent signings EVER it is no way he is better than Peart they just don't want him making all that money standing on the Sideline I guess
Once the Line is Fix I wouldn't matter who we have at RB honestly so no you don't pay Barkley big money
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Sept 12, 2021 21:10:06 GMT -5
Maybe he has been over hyped. I dont think excellent back, i think excellent potential. but injuries offensive line . put on a rebuilding team has held him back . we should have never drafted him knowing we needed a QB but gettlemen coundt or didnt want to see it. trade out and draft josh allen there(and thats not hindsight) i said it draft day. I agree drafting Barkley was a terrible mistake. This team needed a QB and offensive linemen. Right now it's a big mess. Reese made the mistake of drafting Engram over RT ramz. i was upset about it then. both mistakes were in trying to give more weapons , but what good are these weapons without the line there? |
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Post by Martin on Sept 12, 2021 21:13:35 GMT -5
He is not a grind it back. He does not run with power and its a waste of precious money. Money that is needed to create a winning football team! first game back after injury not best to judge. But the team as a whole cam be judged, and they stunk. It goes beyond his first game back. He will try to negotiate big dollars which will not give the Giants value. The Giants are a hot mess. |
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Post by Martin on Sept 12, 2021 21:17:21 GMT -5
I agree drafting Barkley was a terrible mistake. This team needed a QB and offensive linemen. Right now it's a big mess. Reese made the mistake of drafting Engram over RT ramz. i was upset about it then. both mistakes were in trying to give more weapons , but what good are these weapons without the line there? and where was Engram today? injured So much has gone wrong its amazing. And your right that weapons were not the answer. |
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Post by Dogecoin on Sept 12, 2021 21:17:39 GMT -5
first game back after injury not best to judge. But the team as a whole cam be judged, and they stunk. It goes beyond his first game back. He will try to negotiate big dollars which will not give the Giants value. The Giants are a hot mess. what leverage does he have? Who would pay him Zeke numbers? Even if he's no longer a giant after his rookie contract, he's not headed to a huge deal at this point |
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Post by nobait4me on Sept 13, 2021 1:40:13 GMT -5
Not only will they extend Barkley, Dave Gettleman is gonna make him the highest RB in the league. It's his prized first pick heading the Giants at #2 overall. I would trade Barkley from a good RT and 2nd round pick. We need a speed rushing LB. Carter was non existent |
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Post by jintslifer1 on Sept 13, 2021 5:33:17 GMT -5
I agree he didnt look himself. But OL and scheme play a big part. He seemed to run straight into the line and disappear on every run play. What a mess
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Post by Blue Hulk on Sept 13, 2021 16:46:39 GMT -5
Barkley had no burst. He doesn't seem 100%. To say we shouldn't extend his contract is silly though, at this point. You don't extend his contract because RBs can be drafted after the 3rd round and give similar production. This league isn't built off that position anymore. I said that same point when people wanted him. My exact words were, "Don't pull the cart before the horse". Good running backs are a luxury and not a necessity. Get a good RB behind a bad OL and you get Saquon barkley in all his glory. His ACL's would be doing much better with an OL. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 13, 2021 16:52:40 GMT -5
I agree drafting Barkley was a terrible mistake. This team needed a QB and offensive linemen. Right now it's a big mess. Reese made the mistake of drafting Engram over RT ramz. i was upset about it then. both mistakes were in trying to give more weapons , but what good are these weapons without the line there? He could have had Ramz at OT and Darnold for DT. Nothing against skill positions but get your LOS in order first. He did it backwards. Skill, skill, skill skill and reached for brawn. Amazing how the Giants lost their way. |
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