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Post by spaceweather on Sept 15, 2021 7:50:46 GMT -5
How do average Joes like us on this message board and Twitter see the glaring issue but Professional coaches don't? Launch Garret into Low Earth Orbit.
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 15, 2021 8:14:23 GMT -5
This also includes passes completed underneath because there were deeper patters(I actually didn't notice this many past 15 yards re-watching the game TBH)
Mind you probably 80 of those yards came on 2 plays as well
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2021 8:17:04 GMT -5
These aren’t real coaches. They are promoted coordinators and assistants who were made coaches by no other team but us. They suck and will never be like Parcells, Belichick, Walsh, Billick, etc. Mara won’t hire a coach that costs money like that. God forbid he try to win something.
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Post by spaceweather on Sept 15, 2021 8:30:30 GMT -5
This also includes passes completed underneath because there were deeper patters(I actually didn't notice this many past 15 yards re-watching the game TBH) Mind you probably 80 of those yards came on 2 plays as well "This also includes passes completed underneath because there were deeper patterns" Thats the entire point. Good things happen when the play calling is something else besides curl routes or routes to the sticks... |
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 15, 2021 8:44:47 GMT -5
This also includes passes completed underneath because there were deeper patters(I actually didn't notice this many past 15 yards re-watching the game TBH) Mind you probably 80 of those yards came on 2 plays as well "This also includes passes completed underneath because there were deeper patterns" Thats the entire point. Good things happen when the play calling is something else besides curl routes or routes to the sticks... but eVeRyOnE rUn A cUrL tO tHe StIcKs IT wOrKs... Meanwhile we spend 72 million for a guy that is a borderline beast running intermediate and vertical routes and is useless running patterns like this because his body type makes it nearly impossible to run tight patterns like this... |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Sept 15, 2021 8:59:46 GMT -5
"This also includes passes completed underneath because there were deeper patterns" Thats the entire point. Good things happen when the play calling is something else besides curl routes or routes to the sticks... but eVeRyOnE rUn A cUrL tO tHe StIcKs IT wOrKs... Meanwhile we spend 72 million for a guy that is a borderline beast running intermediate and vertical routes and is useless running patterns like this because his body type makes it nearly impossible to run tight patterns like this... Lol a lot of the patterns weren't even to the sticks, even on 3rd down. Just don't get it. |
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 15, 2021 9:11:18 GMT -5
Mind numbing is not having a winning season in five years. This is a migraine.
I want to see how he does with all his players up to speed and playing together. If it’s the same sorry ass outcome. I’ll be the first to drive him to the airport, on a one way trip to Siberia.
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Post by bizcliz on Sept 15, 2021 9:15:32 GMT -5
Everyone complains about Jones being a "one read" guy but like...how are you supposed to progress through routes that break at the same time and at similar depths?
He's shown he's a much more accurate thrower 10+ yards down field. Push the defense, make them work and then slip someone back.
I know it's a broken record but I am baffled by the play calling.
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Post by jaymas on Sept 15, 2021 9:19:17 GMT -5
Yeah, the guy is a good intermediate to deep passer, that's probably been one of a few consistents in his career thus far. Why that continues to be deemphasized is beyond me.
I can only hope that all the horses being back with a real game under their belts now means it'll change.
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Post by spaceweather on Sept 15, 2021 9:39:02 GMT -5
Daniel Jones is fully responsible for his AWFUL fumbels and INTs, thats on him but we are completely doing nothing to help this guy be a Franchise QB with Garrett and his play calling.
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Post by Providence on Sept 15, 2021 9:44:47 GMT -5
Stats are tricky. I don't disagree that Garrett has his head up his ass, but this tweet doesn't exemplify it because you don't know what the downs and distances were on those plays. Or where on the field they occurred. All those factors impact how the defense plays, which can impact the throws made. Too many variables to draw any kind of causation from just this tweet. But again, that's not to say Garrett isn't a clown, he is. The collective performance of the offense since he arrived provides ample evidence.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Sept 15, 2021 10:04:12 GMT -5
Daniel Jones is fully responsible for his AWFUL fumbels and INTs, thats on him but we are completely doing nothing to help this guy be a Franchise QB with Garrett and his play calling. This is truth. I said it before, even if DJ has the talent to be a good franchise QB, we are basically sabotaging him with terrible schemes and play calling. Doesn't mean I think Jones is anything more than an average at best QB, because I dont, but what we are doing is making sure he has a very hard time succeeding. But also, Jones doesnt help himself either. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 15, 2021 10:09:40 GMT -5
How do average Joes like us on this message board and Twitter see the glaring issue but Professional coaches don't? Launch Garret into Low Earth Orbit. Exactly they know Garret is gonna dink and dunk they gang up on the short shit and it puts them in position to kill the run to onRPO's and just run plays. This week is another big time pass rush are they gonna shrink or protect or can Garret get creative and spot in some motion and well designed screens to hold them up. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 15, 2021 10:15:39 GMT -5
"This also includes passes completed underneath because there were deeper patterns" Thats the entire point. Good things happen when the play calling is something else besides curl routes or routes to the sticks... but eVeRyOnE rUn A cUrL tO tHe StIcKs IT wOrKs... Meanwhile we spend 72 million for a guy that is a borderline beast running intermediate and vertical routes and is useless running patterns like this because his body type makes it nearly impossible to run tight patterns like this... Garret needs to listen to Kitchens and they should get the other guy is it Calloway involved, come out looking like you are gonna take it to someone instead of this Sackless wuss ball. Let him do it like Shurmur did with him as a rookie he will sink or swim, I think he can be a good enough just start sliding on runs and protect it in the pocket like he did in the preseason. |
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Post by giantsforce on Sept 15, 2021 10:18:16 GMT -5
These aren’t real coaches. They are promoted coordinators and assistants who were made coaches by no other team but us. They suck and will never be like Parcells, Belichick, Walsh, Billick, etc. Mara won’t hire a coach that costs money like that. God forbid he try to win something. I understand what you are trying to say, but the examples you gave contradict your statement. Parcells was an assistant when the Giants made him HC. Belichik was an assistant before some other team made him HC, Walsh started his career as an assistant the the Raiders, Billick was an assistant with the Vickings before he moved on to HC of the Ravens. In short, and I could very well be wrong, I do not thing that there any HCs who were born into the job. HC are made by former, players or assistants after they have learned the job. The key to it, though, is that some have what it takes to be an HC and some do not. The HC position requires someone who can handle multiple things at the same time. Those who you mentioned, could. The likes of Shurmur, , Spags, Ray- the idiot-Handley, Ben Macdoodoo and apparently Judge-I talk a good-game-but-no-substance could not. They may be great coordinators but that's their ceiling and they cannot go any higher. I do not like Mara very much and I have been a loud critic of his, but I doubt very much he would hesitate to pay serious money to Billichik if he wanted to become the next Giants HC. The problem, as I see it, is that no serious HC will come to the Giants with the type of GMs Mara hires. |
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Post by spaceweather on Sept 15, 2021 11:19:01 GMT -5
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