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Post by Jomo on Sept 17, 2021 9:38:16 GMT -5
Judge burned a timeout on the heels of a DJ scramble.
He landed helmet first and I thought he got past the first down marker before contact.
Question, if Joe Palooka (my new name for the HC) is going to burn a timeout, why not challenge the call for "free". It's actually better than free because if successful we get to keep the TO.
Did anyone notice that?
Am I missing something?
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Post by GameTime on Sept 17, 2021 9:41:56 GMT -5
Judge is wet behind the ears when it comes to challenging and T/Os etc.
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 17, 2021 9:48:19 GMT -5
Judge is wet behind the ears when it comes to challenging and T/Os etc.
That is unacceptable GT.
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Post by nick030567 on Sept 17, 2021 9:51:33 GMT -5
Judge burned a timeout on the heels of a DJ scramble. He landed helmet first and I thought he got past the first down marker before contact. Question, if Joe Palooka (my new name for the HC) is going to burn a timeout, why not challenge the call for "free". It's actually better than free because if successful we get to keep the TO. Did anyone notice that? Am I missing something? Nope, I noticed that too. Was terribly stupid. Personally I thought it was obvious that Jones got the 1st. Both me and my Dad were confused lol |
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Post by jmike on Sept 17, 2021 9:52:17 GMT -5
Judge burned a timeout on the heels of a DJ scramble. He landed helmet first and I thought he got past the first down marker before contact. Question, if Joe Palooka (my new name for the HC) is going to burn a timeout, why not challenge the call for "free". It's actually better than free because if successful we get to keep the TO. Did anyone notice that? Am I missing something? When a QB carrying the ball goes to the ground, the ball is placed when he begins to give himself up, not where he lands. So it was a good spot. They changed the rule that a give up slide needed to be feet first a few seasons ago. It can also be applied now to other positions. Which is why when the Wash RB dove to the ground and then crawled for the first down it was not overturned on the review. It was deemed him giving himself up and going to the ground. So both were good spots based on the rule. Not saying its a good rule, just that these plays and spots are the result of said rule. |
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Post by Miked1958 on Sept 17, 2021 9:55:45 GMT -5
Judge burned a timeout on the heels of a DJ scramble. He landed helmet first and I thought he got past the first down marker before contact. Question, if Joe Palooka (my new name for the HC) is going to burn a timeout, why not challenge the call for "free". It's actually better than free because if successful we get to keep the TO. Did anyone notice that? Am I missing something? When a QB carrying the ball goes to the ground, the ball is placed when he begins to give himself up, not where he lands. So it was a good spot. They changed the rule that a give up slide needed to be feet first a few seasons ago. It can also be applied now to other positions. Which is why when the Wash RB dove to the ground and then crawled for the first down it was not overturned on the review. It was deemed him giving himself up and going to the ground. So both were good spots based on the rule. Not saying its a good rule, just that these plays and spots are the result of said rule. wait so your saying a guy cant dive for more yardage when untouched? Or is not allowed the extra yardage anymore after they hit ground? I thought he had it either way |
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Post by jmike on Sept 17, 2021 10:38:42 GMT -5
When a QB carrying the ball goes to the ground, the ball is placed when he begins to give himself up, not where he lands. So it was a good spot. They changed the rule that a give up slide needed to be feet first a few seasons ago. It can also be applied now to other positions. Which is why when the Wash RB dove to the ground and then crawled for the first down it was not overturned on the review. It was deemed him giving himself up and going to the ground. So both were good spots based on the rule. Not saying its a good rule, just that these plays and spots are the result of said rule. wait so your saying a guy cant dive for more yardage when untouched? Or is not allowed the extra yardage anymore after they hit ground? I thought he had it either way I'm saying that if a player dives to the turf without being touched it can be interpreted as giving himself up on the play and the ball will be spotted where he began his dive. I don't particularly like this rule, but it was put in place for "player safety" and as such each spot was solid based on the rule. They actually gave the RB the spot where he landed, should have been push back another half yard or so from where they gave it to him. |
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Post by Jomo on Sept 17, 2021 11:06:15 GMT -5
wait so your saying a guy cant dive for more yardage when untouched? Or is not allowed the extra yardage anymore after they hit ground? I thought he had it either way I'm saying that if a player dives to the turf without being touched it can be interpreted as giving himself up on the play and the ball will be spotted where he began his dive. I don't particularly like this rule, but it was put in place for "player safety" and as such each spot was solid based on the rule. They actually gave the RB the spot where he landed, should have been push back another half yard or so from where they gave it to him. I thought it just applied to when you go feet first, otherwise you are viewed as a running back. |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 17, 2021 11:09:51 GMT -5
Judge is wet behind the ears when it comes to challenging and T/Os etc.
That is unacceptable GT.
he represents the team's image. "well meaning and hard working but still undisciplined and in disarray a bit" |
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 17, 2021 11:22:44 GMT -5
he represents the team's image. "well meaning and hard working but still undisciplined and in disarray a bit"
It's time for Joe Judge to stop looking like a like a rookie head coach.
He constantly talks about being smart, prepared, and disciplined, and yet and in both games we've seen he's not on top of his in-game management skills.
The time for talk is over. We all get it. Judge is a great talker. Now it's all about the on-field performance doing his talking.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Sept 17, 2021 11:27:02 GMT -5
Judge burned a timeout on the heels of a DJ scramble. He landed helmet first and I thought he got past the first down marker before contact. Question, if Joe Palooka (my new name for the HC) is going to burn a timeout, why not challenge the call for "free". It's actually better than free because if successful we get to keep the TO. Did anyone notice that? Am I missing something? I like your strategy but what happens if you need that challenge later and do not have any left? For what it is worth I thought DJ had it at first as well so I was surprised by the announcers but on replay it looked like his knee hit before the line. |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 17, 2021 11:27:56 GMT -5
he represents the team's image. "well meaning and hard working but still undisciplined and in disarray a bit"
It's time for Joe Judge to stop looking like a like a rookie head coach.
He constantly talks about being smart, prepared, and disciplined, and yet and in both games we've seen he's not on top of his in-game management skills.
The time for talk is over. We all get it. Judge is a great talker. Now it's all about the on-field performance doing his talking.
exactly....his excuses are running out too |
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Post by Roswell on Sept 17, 2021 11:31:44 GMT -5
he represents the team's image. "well meaning and hard working but still undisciplined and in disarray a bit"
It's time for Joe Judge to stop looking like a like a rookie head coach.
He constantly talks about being smart, prepared, and disciplined, and yet and in both games we've seen he's not on top of his in-game management skills.
The time for talk is over. We all get it. Judge is a great talker. Now it's all about the on-field performance doing his talking.
Yep. He's focused and articulate but he has to make better decisions. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 17, 2021 11:35:03 GMT -5
It's time for Joe Judge to stop looking like a like a rookie head coach.
He constantly talks about being smart, prepared, and disciplined, and yet and in both games we've seen he's not on top of his in-game management skills.
The time for talk is over. We all get it. Judge is a great talker. Now it's all about the on-field performance doing his talking.
exactly....his excuses are running out too
I've been an avid supporter of his, but I now have zero interest in anything he has to say.
All I care about is what I see on game days. That shows me everything I need to know about him.
This morning we have a head coach with a 6-12 lifetime record.
I think Ray Handley had a better win percentage.
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 17, 2021 11:37:28 GMT -5
It's time for Joe Judge to stop looking like a like a rookie head coach.
He constantly talks about being smart, prepared, and disciplined, and yet and in both games we've seen he's not on top of his in-game management skills.
The time for talk is over. We all get it. Judge is a great talker. Now it's all about the on-field performance doing his talking.
Yep. He's focused and articulate but he has to make better decisions.
Maybe he's too focused on things like marketing to the fans? He clearly loves doing those film breakdowns. He clearly would do well on TV or NFL radio. Maybe that's his true calling?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 11:38:08 GMT -5
Judge burned a timeout on the heels of a DJ scramble. He landed helmet first and I thought he got past the first down marker before contact. Question, if Joe Palooka (my new name for the HC) is going to burn a timeout, why not challenge the call for "free". It's actually better than free because if successful we get to keep the TO. Did anyone notice that? Am I missing something? For a QB you are down when you BEGIN to slide, not when you touch the ground. |
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Post by TEM on Sept 17, 2021 11:38:55 GMT -5
Judge burned a timeout on the heels of a DJ scramble. He landed helmet first and I thought he got past the first down marker before contact. Question, if Joe Palooka (my new name for the HC) is going to burn a timeout, why not challenge the call for "free". It's actually better than free because if successful we get to keep the TO. Did anyone notice that? Am I missing something? The ball did not pass the 1st down marker. When a QB gives himself up. The first part of his body that touches the ground . The play is dead. Where the ball is at that moment . Is where the ball is spotted. |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 17, 2021 11:42:14 GMT -5
exactly....his excuses are running out too
I've been an avid supporter of his, but I now have zero interest in anything he has to say.
All I care about is what I see on game days. That shows me everything I need to know about him.
This morning we have a head coach with a 6-12 lifetime record.
I think Ray Handley had a better win percentage.
last drive hand off hand off and didnt even get past the 2 minute warning. Have to get a first down there. They were playing not to lose instead of win. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 17, 2021 12:13:07 GMT -5
I've been an avid supporter of his, but I now have zero interest in anything he has to say.
All I care about is what I see on game days. That shows me everything I need to know about him.
This morning we have a head coach with a 6-12 lifetime record.
I think Ray Handley had a better win percentage.
last drive hand off hand off and didnt even get past the 2 minute warning. Have to get a first down there. They were playing not to lose instead of win. that was the root of the problem. We were already in field goal range, why not go for the win, push the ball into the end zone. I don't get the ball-lessness. |
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Post by Miked1958 on Sept 17, 2021 12:16:40 GMT -5
wait so your saying a guy cant dive for more yardage when untouched? Or is not allowed the extra yardage anymore after they hit ground? I thought he had it either way I'm saying that if a player dives to the turf without being touched it can be interpreted as giving himself up on the play and the ball will be spotted where he began his dive. I don't particularly like this rule, but it was put in place for "player safety" and as such each spot was solid based on the rule. They actually gave the RB the spot where he landed, should have been push back another half yard or so from where they gave it to him. so their RB gets the extra yardage but not DJ Used to be when u saw plsyers coming up to make the taclkle u dive to try and get as many extra yards you coukd |
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Post by Miked1958 on Sept 17, 2021 12:18:35 GMT -5
Judge burned a timeout on the heels of a DJ scramble. He landed helmet first and I thought he got past the first down marker before contact. Question, if Joe Palooka (my new name for the HC) is going to burn a timeout, why not challenge the call for "free". It's actually better than free because if successful we get to keep the TO. Did anyone notice that? Am I missing something? For a QB you are down when you BEGIN to slide, not when you touch the ground. but he didnt slide. He dove untouched for extra yardage. I know in college when u hit the ground play is over. But pros u bot only get the exra yards u can get back up and run if not touched |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 17, 2021 12:22:09 GMT -5
last drive hand off hand off and didnt even get past the 2 minute warning. Have to get a first down there. They were playing not to lose instead of win. that was the root of the problem. We were already in field goal range, why not go for the win, push the ball into the end zone. I don't get the ball-lessness.ball-lessness....lol perfect |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 12:27:36 GMT -5
For a QB you are down when you BEGIN to slide, not when you touch the ground. but he didnt slide. He dove untouched for extra yardage. I know in college when u hit the ground play is over. But pros u bot only get the exra yards u can get back up and run if not touched doesn't matter if it's head or feet first. And like I said it's only for the QB |
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Post by jmike on Sept 17, 2021 12:27:47 GMT -5
For a QB you are down when you BEGIN to slide, not when you touch the ground. but he didnt slide. He dove untouched for extra yardage. I know in college when u hit the ground play is over. But pros u bot only get the exra yards u can get back up and run if not touched They changed the rule so that a forward dive is considered the same as a slide. |
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Post by Miked1958 on Sept 17, 2021 15:29:58 GMT -5
but he didnt slide. He dove untouched for extra yardage. I know in college when u hit the ground play is over. But pros u bot only get the exra yards u can get back up and run if not touched They changed the rule so that a forward dive is considered the same as a slide. okay dumb rule. I realize these rules are put in place to protect players. But before you know it they will be playing flag football |
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Post by jmike on Sept 17, 2021 15:39:56 GMT -5
They changed the rule so that a forward dive is considered the same as a slide. okay dumb rule. I realize these rules are put in place to protect players. But before you know it they will be playing flag football Which is what it will slowly become if it lasts long enough. |
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