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Post by Antwuan on Sept 17, 2021 11:44:08 GMT -5
4 Choices
Joe Judge Darius Slayton Dexter Lawrence The Giants Defense
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Post by Jomo on Sept 17, 2021 11:48:49 GMT -5
Judge is responsible for everything but that is too easy a pick so I went with the D who has now made two middling QBs look like Joe Montana.
Getting back to Judge, the defensive game plan looked like crap last Sunday and we made no useful adjustments at halftime.
Why would he let Graham come back with the same "bend, then break" approach this week.
Maybe I should hang it on Judge for not pushing Graham to something different.
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Post by TEM on Sept 17, 2021 11:50:00 GMT -5
It is the HCs responsibility to have the proper game plan and make sure that game plan is implemented properly. The game plan was lacking in pass defense either in concept or execution. The ultimate blame is on his shoulders.
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Post by Rudy on Sept 17, 2021 11:51:46 GMT -5
The defense gave up 30 points. You're not going to win games like that.
Edit: This is the same WFT offense that only scored 16 against the Chargers. So that should tell you something.
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Post by Miked1958 on Sept 17, 2021 12:01:18 GMT -5
Falls on Garrett and ultimately Judge for totally screwing up the gift they got with Washington amazingly throwing the ball in that situation.
They were handed the game. Then totally screwed up with the conservative play calling. They acted like it was 30 seconds left the way the handled that series not 2:20.
They needed to be aggressive to at least try and get a 1st down to force them to use up all their timeouts and if they got ball back there'd be little or no time left after the FG.
And after a huge turnover like that why not take a shot at the endzone??? Then your forcing them to score a TD
I just dont understand the thought process on that series. They basically just handed game right back to then
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 17, 2021 13:30:42 GMT -5
At the end of the day if the Giants and i say the Giants as a whole catch the balls that hit their hands make sure they block correctly which I think Board did his hand was inside in the middle of his chest and Board was being held himself that is 2 TDs that washing ton wasn't coming back from. They needed this game because the schedule gets tough after Atlanta and it was a divisional game. This was a team loss Dex was timed pretty good didn't look offside at all he came up but did not cross till the ball moved.
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Post by DandyDon on Sept 17, 2021 13:39:02 GMT -5
IMO both games we looked like an undisciplined and badly coached team. What was a good defense now can't stop anyone. An offense that finally moved the ball can't get it into the end zone, and the QB had the most rushing yards.
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Post by soullessnight on Sept 17, 2021 14:33:11 GMT -5
Not going for 2 instead of the extra point to go up 6 or be down 5.
That was the worst call. 5 points is still up 2 field goals 7 points is up a TD.
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 17, 2021 14:35:02 GMT -5
blame the coach for losing while the team is predicted for 7 wins
Slayton catches the ball and the game is over
Smh
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Post by vinnie on Sept 17, 2021 15:08:25 GMT -5
It is the HCs responsibility to have the proper game plan and make sure that game plan is implemented properly. The game plan was lacking in pass defense either in concept or execution. The ultimate blame is on his shoulders. This. Had to go with Judge, defense was obvious, but ultimately it falls on the HC. I also wonder if he had something to do with Garrett being conservative on our last possession. If he didn’t have anything to do with it, he should have and he should have told him to be aggressive for the first down.
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Post by Sarcasman on Sept 17, 2021 15:09:00 GMT -5
4 Choices Joe Judge Darius Slayton Dexter Lawrence The Giants Defense I voted the players
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Post by 3days on Sept 17, 2021 15:18:37 GMT -5
I chose Judge, I hope like hell that he learns from this. A few reasons: Bad use of Time outs, the way he handled the drive after the INT especially given how good Jones was playing, never going for it on 4th down.
I will never be fine losing, but I am more fine if we do so because we are aggressive.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Sept 17, 2021 15:36:59 GMT -5
Evan Engram no. 2 Slayton. I want to blame him cause he's a damn bum................
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Post by FanNYG on Sept 17, 2021 15:48:24 GMT -5
It should be Judge (some critical indecisions), but I blame the defense - they are the ones I counted on most this season and so far they are a great disappointment (so porous). PS, my grandmother can tackle better than most on this team (and she doesn't take any Bleep)!!!
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Post by Roswell on Sept 17, 2021 15:54:21 GMT -5
Plenty of blame to go around, starting with the D with 2 min left in both halves.
But when you're lined up over the ball on a last second FG, how in the heck can you possibly be offsides? It's not like you're going to block the FG. You're the freakin' nose. Jeez. I've been watching a long time. I've seen the edge offsides, trying to get a jump. But the nose? That's completely inexcusable.
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Post by Sarcasman on Sept 17, 2021 15:57:34 GMT -5
Plenty of blame to go around, starting with the D with 2 min left in both halves. But when you're the lined up over the ball on a last second FG, how in the heck can you possibly be offsides? It's not like you're going to block the FG. You're the freakin' nose. Jeez. I've been watching a long time. I've seen the edge offsides, trying to get a jump. But the nose? That's completely inexcusable. As mad as everybody is about that. is there anyone here that wasn't relieved that it only took Washington 2 plays to score on the series before the final series? I thought for sure they were going to four minute drive the Giants right out of the game. I thought allowing them to score in two plays under one minute was genius.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Sept 17, 2021 15:58:20 GMT -5
Perry Fewell...uhh..I mean Patrick Graham.
sorry, got confused with the weight loss. Fat Pat was a better coach.
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Post by Roswell on Sept 17, 2021 15:58:21 GMT -5
Plenty of blame to go around, starting with the D with 2 min left in both halves. But when you're the lined up over the ball on a last second FG, how in the heck can you possibly be offsides? It's not like you're going to block the FG. You're the freakin' nose. Jeez. I've been watching a long time. I've seen the edge offsides, trying to get a jump. But the nose? That's completely inexcusable. As mad as everybody is about that. is there anyone here that wasn't relieved that it only took Washington 2 plays to score on the series before the final series? I thought for sure they were going to four minute drive the Giants right out of the game. I thought allowing them to score in two plays under one minute was genius. Ahhh. I see what you did there...
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Post by jb456 on Sept 17, 2021 16:20:07 GMT -5
Perry Fewell...uhh..I mean Patrick Graham. sorry, got confused with the weight loss. Fat Pat was a better coach. Bill Sheridan. Remember that nightmare.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 17, 2021 16:21:35 GMT -5
Perry Fewell...uhh..I mean Patrick Graham. sorry, got confused with the weight loss. Fat Pat was a better coach. Bill Sheridan. Remember that nightmare. How can we forget? He ran a prevent defense. It prevented us from winning.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 17, 2021 16:44:55 GMT -5
I voted defense but thats so easy. There is so much blame to go around. Last night I was so angry I was up to after 1 am right here on this web site. And I was angry at everybody except Graham Gano.
This loss is gonna leave a bitter taste in my mouth for weeks maybe even after this season for a couple years.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 16:52:21 GMT -5
Half of each squad consists of proven players. This is the fault of Judge and his coordinators.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Sept 17, 2021 16:59:06 GMT -5
Defense has struggled getting off the field for 2 games. Even the announcers are asking why they are playing so soft on coverage. These guys almost look like they are playing a prevent defense with a 30 point lead.
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Post by finngiant on Sept 17, 2021 17:05:00 GMT -5
Went with Judge for this one.
Judge came here as a special teams guy who preached learning, discipline etc.
Well we lost the game due to a discipline mistake on ST. Also we were conservative at a wrong time when Danny was playing well and on his way to redemption.
The defensive approach is terrible you can not opposing qbs this much time it makes everyone look good.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Sept 17, 2021 17:15:28 GMT -5
I think Washington scored their go ahead TD in under 30 seconds. If you got up to get an ice tea you missed it.
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Post by DonnieYen on Sept 17, 2021 17:15:37 GMT -5
Defense was super soft. Daniel Jones had an awesome game!
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Post by IrishMike on Sept 17, 2021 17:52:50 GMT -5
The refs not an option?
Lawrence is the only one up there that deserves zero blame. He was not offsides.
I picked the D (so I guess Lawrence gets some lol). They simply were not good. The good news it I don't think it is a talent issue, I think it was scheme and play call related. I have faith Graham will get it turned around.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 17, 2021 17:56:01 GMT -5
I think Washington scored their go ahead TD in under 30 seconds. If you got up to get an ice tea you missed it. I missed it. I blinked.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2021 17:56:09 GMT -5
Please stop blaming the defense, they weren't there.
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 17, 2021 18:46:35 GMT -5
I think the scheme was as much to blame as anything, so I picked Judge. Ultimately he is responsible.
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