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Post by TEM on Sept 28, 2021 8:57:47 GMT -5
It’s more than just not producing in 3 games, this cat already has red flags all over. He also has a pretty significant injury history and only had one good year in college. I’ll be somewhat surprised if he doesn’t become an even bigger headache and is anything more than average. We lost out on impact players that we could have used this season, I just hope DG isn’t around to screw up next years draft as well. Ok |
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 28, 2021 8:59:39 GMT -5
Why would we draft a great linebacker in the 1st round? We have to keep our 36 consecutive years of not drafting one in the first round. I like to call it the Carl Banks streak. Good news though, PFF will prove the Giants have some of the best players who can’t win games come season’s end. |
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Post by jb456 on Sept 28, 2021 9:05:09 GMT -5
Or we could have a 2nd high 1st round pick(which could be cashed in for a beast IDL or a stud O lineman ,4th round pick and Toney becomes a dynamic X factor playmaker for that pick I’m waiting on that dynamic X factor to make an appearance…even a glimmer? Gettleman won't be making that pick bro. It's probably better to have the 2nd first at this point since that can entice a would be GM to come to this train wreck of an organization... |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 28, 2021 9:05:39 GMT -5
It’s more than just not producing in 3 games, this cat already has red flags all over. He also has a pretty significant injury history and only had one good year in college. I’ll be somewhat surprised if he doesn’t become an even bigger headache and is anything more than average. We lost out on impact players that we could have used this season, I just hope DG isn’t around to screw up next years draft as well. Ok Well? Am I wrong? |
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Post by mj312 on Sept 28, 2021 9:13:09 GMT -5
On defense in Parsons. Instead we have a gadget WR, who missed trading camp, has done NOTHING in 3 games and is complaining on the sidelines and on social media. It’s the giants , what do you expect ? Gettleman is always the smartest guy in the room just ask him.. would prob tell you the juice is worth the squeeze .. and besides we don’t need any every down impact players on defense because we have guys that are still developing and will be great in 20 years ! Patience my friend |
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Post by Roosevelt on Sept 28, 2021 9:14:55 GMT -5
Since when do we give up on draft picks after 3 games ? Are we really going there?
I think that's called the snowball affect.
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Post by TEM on Sept 28, 2021 9:18:35 GMT -5
Implying a draft pick is to be given up on after 3 games speaks for itself. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 28, 2021 9:19:42 GMT -5
Since when do we give up on draft picks after 3 games ? Are we really going there? Since at 0-3 it is Gettlemen hunting season lol. |
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Post by TEM on Sept 28, 2021 9:20:31 GMT -5
Since when do we give up on draft picks after 3 games ? Are we really going there?
I think that's called the snowball affect.
Or and hear me out . Premature after the fact GM-ing |
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 28, 2021 9:22:16 GMT -5
Since when do we give up on draft picks after 3 games ? Are we really going there? Since at 0-3 it is Gettlemen hunting season lol. To be fair it's been Gettleman hunting season for a few years (I started mine watching our pathetic group of playmakers last Sept whee it looked like we were fighting nuclear war with spit ball guns because he neglected any kind of playmakers) |
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Post by McCherry on Sept 28, 2021 9:23:18 GMT -5
And draft an OLB in contention for the defensive ROY. Still fighting the good fight Mike? Since you’ve ignored my question for months, and have refused to answer it, do you admit that David Gettleman sucks as a GM? Yes or No? Answer it, stop being a troll pussy. Isn't it a little early for a roid rage? |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 28, 2021 9:28:54 GMT -5
Because you have such high confidence in Gettleman making the Se picks count? I’m waiting on that dynamic X factor to make an appearance…even a glimmer? Unless there is a remarkable turn around this season, I don't think we will have to worry about that. I don't agree with Micheal Lombardo most of the time, he said and I agree the problems with this team go deeper then GM and Coach, they should hire an outside consulting team to dig deep and get the whole place straightened out, I still think in the end DG is Gone they have a tough stretch coming and the only way he survives is if they come out of the next 7 games winning at least 4 or 5 of them and that might not even do it, Mara needs to look outside for help and hire outside people to find the next decision makers. |
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Post by wtfjjk on Sept 28, 2021 9:30:38 GMT -5
Parsons was the guy I wanted but it is what it is. We'll see who we get next year but yeah, I have a feeling Gettleman (or Judge) will get the wrong player again next year too.
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Post by snyder55 on Sept 28, 2021 9:31:18 GMT -5
I'm certain that Gettleman will take the fall after this season is over for all that is wrong with this team and maybe rightly so but until the owners bring in a younger thinking GM and stay the hell away from the day to day operations of running this team nothing will change...
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 28, 2021 9:34:30 GMT -5
Since at 0-3 it is Gettlemen hunting season lol. To be fair it's been Gettleman hunting season for a few years (I started mine watching our pathetic group of playmakers last Sept whee it looked like we were fighting nuclear war with spit ball guns because he neglected any kind of playmakers) I agree it started the day they hired him. Unless something miraculous happens I think he is done here they have a tough next 7 games I don't see this going well. Hopefully Mara learned from the last time he handed a guy blank check and a top ten pick and let him try to fix his own mess it turned into a playoff appearance and then right back into the blackhole, If they get someone who knows what they are doing to help get this team the right decision makers all that draft capital can be a savior. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 28, 2021 9:36:07 GMT -5
To be fair it's been Gettleman hunting season for a few years (I started mine watching our pathetic group of playmakers last Sept whee it looked like we were fighting nuclear war with spit ball guns because he neglected any kind of playmakers) I agree it started the day they hired him. Unless something miraculous happens I think he is done here they have a tough next 7 games I don't see this going well. Hopefully Mara learned from the last time he handed a guy blank check and a top ten pick and let him try to fix his own mess it turned into a playoff appearance and then right back into the blackhole, If they get someone who knows what they are doing to help get this team the right decision makers all that draft capital can be a savior. I have zero faith the next GM won't be the next sock puppet promited from within |
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Post by fifthavephil on Sept 28, 2021 9:40:08 GMT -5
Unless there is a remarkable turn around this season, I don't think we will have to worry about that. I don't agree with Micheal Lombardo most of the time, he said and I agree the problems with this team go deeper then GM and Coach, they should hire an outside consulting team to dig deep and get the whole place straightened out, I still think in the end DG is Gone they have a tough stretch coming and the only way he survives is if they come out of the next 7 games winning at least 4 or 5 of them and that might not even do it, Mara needs to look outside for help and hire outside people to find the next decision makers. Isn’t this Board a outside consulting team ??? |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 28, 2021 9:44:12 GMT -5
I agree it started the day they hired him. Unless something miraculous happens I think he is done here they have a tough next 7 games I don't see this going well. Hopefully Mara learned from the last time he handed a guy blank check and a top ten pick and let him try to fix his own mess it turned into a playoff appearance and then right back into the blackhole, If they get someone who knows what they are doing to help get this team the right decision makers all that draft capital can be a savior. I have zero faith the next GM won't be the next sock puppet promited from within I'm praying not but it's possible, Mara is already throwing garbage cans around hope he is done picking rotten fruit off the Giants tree, really need a new direction sometimes that can happen from within but I don't wanna test it. It has been a solid 11 years of lousy personnel decisions that is why the 2011 team was on empty when the final pieces of the old guard fell apart the franchise fell apart the decay started before the winning stopped. |
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Post by nick030567 on Sept 28, 2021 9:44:44 GMT -5
On defense in Parsons. Instead we have a gadget WR, who missed trading camp, has done NOTHING in 3 games and is complaining on the sidelines and on social media. He's not a gadget receiver. Their stupid OC is just misusing him. He was much more than that in college. Guy was one of the most NFL ready. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Sept 28, 2021 9:45:03 GMT -5
I don't agree with Micheal Lombardo most of the time, he said and I agree the problems with this team go deeper then GM and Coach, they should hire an outside consulting team to dig deep and get the whole place straightened out, I still think in the end DG is Gone they have a tough stretch coming and the only way he survives is if they come out of the next 7 games winning at least 4 or 5 of them and that might not even do it, Mara needs to look outside for help and hire outside people to find the next decision makers. Isn’t this Board a outside consulting team ??? Rosie / Morehead / GT are the CEO'S |
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 28, 2021 9:45:19 GMT -5
I think every one of us is disappointed in Toney to say the least. Has shown absolutely nothing on offense and isn't even a creditable decoy. I don't even see him being effective on a quick 8 yd slant and him running for another 5-10 yds. I see Devante Smith and Waddle doing this.
And to me he seems like a distraction to be kind on social media and I get the impression he doesn't go out of his way for anything. Practice seems like a chore that he isn't 100% into. This is just my impression.
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 28, 2021 9:46:52 GMT -5
On defense in Parsons. Instead we have a gadget WR, who missed trading camp, has done NOTHING in 3 games and is complaining on the sidelines and on social media. He's not a gadget receiver. Their stupid OC is just misusing him. He was much more than that in college. Guy was one of the most NFL ready. how is a WR who rarely practices being misused? |
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Post by giantlegacy on Sept 28, 2021 9:49:18 GMT -5
On defense in Parsons. Instead we have a gadget WR, who missed trading camp, has done NOTHING in 3 games and is complaining on the sidelines and on social media. He's not a gadget receiver. Their stupid OC is just misusing him. He was much more than that in college. Guy was one of the most NFL ready. Exactly this Judge wanted this guy to add the modern element that was missing from this offense Until we.move on from Garrett I fear we won't see much of Toney ... Of course with Shep and Slayton probably out tbe next 2 weeks we might actually get a nice dose of Toney |
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Post by nick030567 on Sept 28, 2021 9:49:24 GMT -5
He's not a gadget receiver. Their stupid OC is just misusing him. He was much more than that in college. Guy was one of the most NFL ready. how is a WR who rarely practices being misused? Thus far he's being used like an UDFA, special teams WR. Doesn't mean they won't use him differently going forward. But it was mind boggling how they basically removed him from the game plan after those two energizing plays. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 28, 2021 9:55:46 GMT -5
how is a WR who rarely practices being misused? Thus far he's being used like an UDFA, special teams WR. Doesn't mean they won't use him differently going forward. But it was mind boggling how they basically removed him from the game plan after those two energizing plays. Well, when you have only one football you can’t give it everybody. They signed Golladay have Engram and Barkley. Now they added another receiver plus other FA and existing receivers. There is only one football so you have diminishing returns. Meanwhile, the OL still has issues while the defense still doesn’t have a pass rusher they can depend on. The roster is a mess. They literally don’t do anything well and have no identity. |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 28, 2021 9:58:32 GMT -5
Still fighting the good fight Mike? Since you’ve ignored my question for months, and have refused to answer it, do you admit that David Gettleman sucks as a GM? Yes or No? Answer it, stop being a troll pussy. Isn't it a little early for a roid rage? Yeah, sorry Mike. You can see my little warning, it was well deserved. I was going to PM you but a public apology would be better. As Roswell said yesterday, all these damn losses has everyone po’d and frustrated. As we’ve talked about, you know I sometimes disagree with your thoughts on the Giants but I do like you as a person. Sorry man. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 10:04:21 GMT -5
On defense in Parsons. Instead we have a gadget WR, who missed trading camp, has done NOTHING in 3 games and is complaining on the sidelines and on social media. Parsons wasn't taking snaps away from Martinez.. he would've been on the bench on passing downs because hes not great in pass coverage. But you don't see that. He played 64% of defensive snaps last night so the every down player thing is a fallacy. Week 1 - 78% Week 2 - 55% Week 3 - 64% |
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Post by PennState1 on Sept 28, 2021 10:12:50 GMT -5
Did you want Parsons on draft day? Yes. The guy will be an absolute game changer |
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Post by PennState1 on Sept 28, 2021 10:15:54 GMT -5
if you look back to my draft day posts, I also wanted Slater once we were on the clock, with Smith gone. Would have been fine had we picked Parsons, and honestly, I was pleased with the trade down. The trade down was am unexpected huge surprise that became best case scenario Have to remember this entire class is iffy with the entire covid situation We are going to see more guys taken outside the top 15 picks be studs that might have might have fallen through the cracks a bit because of less hands on scouting (Ojulari could be one )and nore early fools gold (I warned that Zach Wilson while looking like he has all tbe tools could be overrated because BYU was basically scheduling teams tbe week of ybe game just to play anyone) This next draft class looks incredible...especially on defense What if we get the top IDL guy (flavor fluctuates on. Daily basis )to insert between Lawrence and Williams and one of the top O lineman with 2 potentially top 10 picks and then hit more front 7 guys day 2 with maybe a TE .... I REALLY hope you are right and that the Giants figure out how to pick the right guy. |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 28, 2021 10:16:09 GMT -5
Because you have such high confidence in Gettleman making the Se picks count? I’m waiting on that dynamic X factor to make an appearance…even a glimmer? Unless there is a remarkable turn around this season, I don't think we will have to worry about that. I sure hope you’re right but I can never under estimate Mara and his ignorance. |
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