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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 15, 2021 6:47:41 GMT -5
Just looked up his contract and it's thru 2022 with him becoming a UFA in 2023 so at the end of the 2022 season he's a free agent if we don't re-sign him? Depending on how his injuries and production hold up to the point in which we need to tag him, I'd tag him and let that be a prove it from a health perspective kinda so to speak. At what point will the tag need to take place would it be sometime in 2022? I just hope he doesn't have bad luck and will be able to finish this year out strong at least. Let that hopefully bold well going into next yr!!
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Post by Miked1958 on Oct 15, 2021 6:53:35 GMT -5
Yeah lets give him the big contract like with Odell. That worked out well. But with him besides injuries its was all the drama which for Barkley that has never been an issue
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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 15, 2021 7:48:15 GMT -5
Yeah lets give him the big contract like with Odell. That worked out well. But with him besides injuries its was all the drama which for Barkley that has never been an issue i think the tag would be effective if he can get thru this year and puts get back to form and also have a good season next year and can get pass that injury bug. Then that tag end of 2022 or whatever is his show us you can be dependable |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 15, 2021 8:03:50 GMT -5
Over the cap has the Giants $7 million in the hole with 43 players signed lol. That’s with Barkley and Jones on the cheap.
Great news though, William cost after restructuring is only $27.3 million.
I’d think there is a good chance Peppers is traded by the deadline
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Post by DJones19 on Oct 15, 2021 8:19:58 GMT -5
Highest paid running back only makes 16 million a year.
Golladay makes almost 20 million...let that set in.
If Golden Tate commanded 10 million I think Barkley is worth 12-15..I can really see Barkley going to an other team and excelling.
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but yea, as others have said we are in cap hell because management wanted to "win now"...as of now some of those contracts are looking very bloated going back to Solder.
So who knows if we can afford 12-15.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 15, 2021 10:47:05 GMT -5
Highest paid running back only makes 16 million a year. Golladay makes almost 20 million...let that set in. If Golden Tate commanded 10 million I think Barkley is worth 12-15..I can really see Barkley going to an other team and excelling. ... but yea, as others have said we are in cap hell because management wanted to "win now"...as of now some of those contracts are looking very bloated going back to Solder. So who knows if we can afford 12-15. i can see him going to someone else and excelling as well especially one with a good O line and at least decent recievers; has happened to us a many of times with losing a player smh. How would that tag applied relate to being able to afford 12-15? |
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 15, 2021 11:13:52 GMT -5
Highest paid running back only makes 16 million a year. Golladay makes almost 20 million...let that set in. If Golden Tate commanded 10 million I think Barkley is worth 12-15..I can really see Barkley going to an other team and excelling. ... but yea, as others have said we are in cap hell because management wanted to "win now"...as of now some of those contracts are looking very bloated going back to Solder. So who knows if we can afford 12-15. I'm letting it sink in. OK, I think it's done. So, the market for compensation changes based on the players' position? Got it. |
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Post by jmike on Oct 15, 2021 11:33:04 GMT -5
I think Barkley is worth 12-15..I can really see Barkley going to an other team and excelling. How can you possibly think that? |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 15, 2021 11:33:30 GMT -5
Highest paid running back only makes 16 million a year. Golladay makes almost 20 million...let that set in. If Golden Tate commanded 10 million I think Barkley is worth 12-15..I can really see Barkley going to an other team and excelling. ... but yea, as others have said we are in cap hell because management wanted to "win now"...as of now some of those contracts are looking very bloated going back to Solder. So who knows if we can afford 12-15. I'm letting it sink in. OK, I think it's done. So, the market for compensation changes based on the players' position? Got it. well, those dollars certainly aren’t returning wins with the team cap a mess supporting a 16-37 Gettleman record. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 15, 2021 11:41:22 GMT -5
I'm letting it sink in. OK, I think it's done. So, the market for compensation changes based on the players' position? Got it. well, those dollars certainly aren’t returning wins with the team cap a mess supporting a 16-37 Gettleman record. Absolutely true, of course that's an entirely separate issue. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 15, 2021 12:05:11 GMT -5
well, those dollars certainly aren’t returning wins with the team cap a mess supporting a 16-37 Gettleman record. Absolutely true, of course that's an entirely separate issue. The dollars spent and in relation to ROI(Goll/Tate/Barkley) sinking in is the point he was making. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 15, 2021 12:27:10 GMT -5
Absolutely true, of course that's an entirely separate issue. The dollars spent and in relation to ROI(Goll/Tate/Barkley) sinking in is the point he was making. That's a very kind interpretation. I wouldn't make that huge a leap to try to make sense of it but feel free. I have no idea why he was miscorrelating market values and positions. But I guess if we toss out those parameters the Giants really shouldn't be paying any players market and Graham Gano should be the highest paid player on the team. I'm gonna let that sink in, lol. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 15, 2021 12:29:26 GMT -5
The dollars spent and in relation to ROI(Goll/Tate/Barkley) sinking in is the point he was making. That's a very kind interpretation. I wouldn't make that huge a leap to try to make sense of it but feel free. I have no idea why he was miscorrelating market values and positions. But I guess if we toss out those parameters the Giants really shouldn't be paying any players market and Graham Gano should be the highest paid player on the team. I'm gonna let that sink in, lol. well, don’t drown yourself with the complexity of a simple grasp lol. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 15, 2021 12:37:39 GMT -5
To put it nicely, let him walk or try to trade him in the offseason if he gets healthy again.  |
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 15, 2021 12:45:23 GMT -5
That's a very kind interpretation. I wouldn't make that huge a leap to try to make sense of it but feel free. I have no idea why he was miscorrelating market values and positions. But I guess if we toss out those parameters the Giants really shouldn't be paying any players market and Graham Gano should be the highest paid player on the team. I'm gonna let that sink in, lol. well, don’t drown yourself with the complexity of a simple grasp lol. That's what made the let it sink in thing so funny. It's hard to misunderstand something so obvious but that's the purview of fandom, he's clearly not alone, lol. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 15, 2021 12:47:03 GMT -5
To put it nicely, let him walk or try to trade him in the offseason if he gets healthy again. They should offer him a top of market contract for a Kicker or Tight End. |
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Post by DJones19 on Oct 15, 2021 12:47:51 GMT -5
I think Barkley is worth 12-15..I can really see Barkley going to an other team and excelling. How can you possibly think that? Barkley was on pace for a 10+ TD season coming off massive surgery. He was the spark we needed that got us the upset win vs the Saints. I think he's still a 12+ TD per season player. I'm still a believer. I see the people disagreeing are those that wanted us to sign Odell to a huge contract. |
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Post by jmike on Oct 15, 2021 13:02:38 GMT -5
How can you possibly think that? Barkley was on pace for a 10+ TD season coming off massive surgery. He was the spark we needed that got us the upset win vs the Saints. I think he's still a 12+ TD per season player. I'm still a believer. I see the people disagreeing are those that wanted us to sign Odell to a huge contract. He has performed marginally better than a replacement level player. I understand he has talent, but it doesn't materialize often enough to pay him 15mil per year. Odell was a pain in the ass, but he performed. Barkley is a great teammate, but he doesn't perform. |
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Post by te88 on Oct 15, 2021 13:03:12 GMT -5
He should not be re signed. Big Second contracts for RBs do not work out
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Post by Martin on Oct 15, 2021 13:10:41 GMT -5
He should not be re signed. Big Second contracts for RBs do not work out Usually they don't and if you have a stellar O-line then maybe. The Giants do not. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2021 13:13:06 GMT -5
How can you possibly think that? Barkley was on pace for a 10+ TD season coming off massive surgery. He was the spark we needed that got us the upset win vs the Saints. I think he's still a 12+ TD per season player. I'm still a believer. I see the people disagreeing are those that wanted us to sign Odell to a huge contract.Where did this nonsense come from?? LOL |
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Post by jmike on Oct 15, 2021 13:23:54 GMT -5
Barkley was on pace for a 10+ TD season coming off massive surgery. He was the spark we needed that got us the upset win vs the Saints. I think he's still a 12+ TD per season player. I'm still a believer. I see the people disagreeing are those that wanted us to sign Odell to a huge contract.Where did this nonsense come from?? LOL Giants' team store has had a blowout sale on nonsense all season. I expect they will provide another shipment on Sunday. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2021 13:31:15 GMT -5
Where did this nonsense come from?? LOL Giants' team store has had a blowout sale on nonsense all season. I expect they will provide another shipment on Sunday. Sad but so true!! |
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Oct 15, 2021 15:09:10 GMT -5
Over the cap has the Giants $7 million in the hole with 43 players signed lol. That’s with Barkley and Jones on the cheap. Great news though, William cost after restructuring is only $27.3 million. I’d think there is a good chance Peppers is traded by the deadline DG handled the cap horribly the next Gm will have trouble clearing it all out. Lets also not forget Barkley makes rookie 1st rd QB money. |
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Post by snyder55 on Oct 15, 2021 15:34:10 GMT -5
He should not be re signed. Big Second contracts for RBs do not work out Usually they don't and if you have a stellar O-line then maybe. The Giants do not. no matter how you shake it out the drafting of Barkley in the spot he was drafted was a huge mistake based on who was available at the time the pick was made.. |
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Post by IrishMike on Oct 15, 2021 17:52:11 GMT -5
Highest paid running back only makes 16 million a year. Golladay makes almost 20 million...let that set in. If Golden Tate commanded 10 million I think Barkley is worth 12-15..I can really see Barkley going to an other team and excelling. ... but yea, as others have said we are in cap hell because management wanted to "win now"...as of now some of those contracts are looking very bloated going back to Solder. So who knows if we can afford 12-15. Which contracts from 2018 are looking bloated? There are 7 people on this roster from then and 4 are on rookie deals. That "win now" year has zero to do with our current cap situation this year and even less next year. |
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Post by allnygin on Oct 15, 2021 19:49:39 GMT -5
We either get barkley on the cheap or someone else does. Nobody is going to pay him top dollars .. he's been off the field more than he's been on it.
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