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Post by soullessnight on Oct 26, 2021 10:17:08 GMT -5
Because he doesn’t know how to slide, and we keep using him as a running back.
DJ has about 3-4 years tops if this play calling coaching style keeps up. Every-time he lowers his head, that’s one less month on his career. You thought that concussion was bad? It’s only going to get worse.
Good win, but why do we keep using our “franchise” QB like he’s a power back?
This type of offense ruined rg3s career with his knee, it’s going to ruin DJs career with his head.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 26, 2021 10:20:31 GMT -5
I just watched the whole game last night and tbh I cringe everytime he runs through the damn line like a rb and such. I mean I know other qb's scramble some and have to evade and escape and run through the line but his looks designed some of the runs I saw from that game.
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Post by jimmieray on Oct 26, 2021 10:50:34 GMT -5
I just watched the whole game last night and tbh I cringe everytime he runs through the damn line like a rb and such. I mean I know other qb's scramble some and have to evade and escape and run through the line but his looks designed some of the runs I saw from that game. I hate seeing this too - but hope if he lasts, sticks on the team, and other things get straightened out... the running plays will be more side to side or only when there's a clear path. He has the talent in passing to avoid this type stuff and still get wins. |
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Post by cdngfan on Oct 26, 2021 11:04:20 GMT -5
There are absolute priorities on this team. Positions we don’t have nearly enough talent on.
QB isnt one of them.
He’s at risk of injuring himself.
But does that require ANOTHER 1st round pick, or can we fix our lines and defence first?
DJ doesn’t have to run if we have a better line.
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 26, 2021 11:05:45 GMT -5
There are absolute priorities on this team. Positions we don’t have nearly enough talent on. QB isnt one of them. He’s at risk of injuring himself. But does that require ANOTHER 1st round pick, or can we fix our lines and defence first? DJ doesn’t have to run if we have a better line. I agree.
Having said that, getting a very good back up QB might be a good plan.
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Post by cdngfan on Oct 26, 2021 11:09:07 GMT -5
There are absolute priorities on this team. Positions we don’t have nearly enough talent on. QB isnt one of them. He’s at risk of injuring himself. But does that require ANOTHER 1st round pick, or can we fix our lines and defence first? DJ doesn’t have to run if we have a better line. I agree.
Having said that, getting a very good back up QB might be a good plan.
Any strategy that allows us to use our 1s on non-QB picks is a strategy I love. And frankly, hadn’t thought about a really good backup. Very smart. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 26, 2021 11:10:17 GMT -5
There are absolute priorities on this team. Positions we don’t have nearly enough talent on. QB isnt one of them. He’s at risk of injuring himself. But does that require ANOTHER 1st round pick, or can we fix our lines and defence first? DJ doesn’t have to run if we have a better line. I agree.
Having said that, getting a very good back up QB might be a good plan.
Interestingly a lot of the qbs many were looking at possible 1st round picks in 2022 have already started to have major slides into the mid rounds.. I know we have needs and such but developing a qb with similar skillsets as Jones as a backup might be a good idea |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 11:17:29 GMT -5
Maybe a 3rd round flyer on a prospect at most.
It would be nice to have a younger QB that can step in when Jones gets hurt..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 11:19:36 GMT -5
I just watched the whole game last night and tbh I cringe everytime he runs through the damn line like a rb and such. I mean I know other qb's scramble some and have to evade and escape and run through the line but his looks designed some of the runs I saw from that game. I hate seeing this too - but hope if he lasts, sticks on the team, and other things get straightened out... the running plays will be more side to side or only when there's a clear path. He has the talent in passing to avoid this type stuff and still get wins. Today's NFL requires a QB to move the chain by running I would think most fans would know this by now.. I'm not a fan of all the designed runs but when the talent is this depleted that's what you have to do to help win. He will go out of bounds more hopefully.. |
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Post by McCherry on Oct 26, 2021 11:22:27 GMT -5
I agree.
Having said that, getting a very good back up QB might be a good plan.
Any strategy that allows us to use our 1s on non-QB picks is a strategy I love. And frankly, hadn’t thought about a really good backup. Very smart. I think that's always the plan. There just aren't many that exist. Glennon is just about as good as any backup. We saw the Panthers backup QB. |
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 26, 2021 11:28:42 GMT -5
Because he doesn’t know how to slide, and we keep using him as a running back. DJ has about 3-4 years tops if this play calling coaching style keeps up. Every-time he lowers his head, that’s one less month on his career. You thought that concussion was bad? It’s only going to get worse. Good win, but why do we keep using our “franchise” QB like he’s a power back? This type of offense ruined rg3s career with his knee, it’s going to ruin DJs career with his head. There have been plenty of QBs who run and take big hits year after year and have long careers. One of his biggest assets is his size and speed. He adds another dimension to this team, and is threat that must be considered with his legs. If he's ever going to be our "franchise QB" it's not because he stopped running and lowering his shoulder. His runs and catch was a huge motivation for the team this past week. He can take these kinds of hits, he'll be ok. |
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Post by hadenough on Oct 26, 2021 12:16:53 GMT -5
The good thing about finding a new QB...is the Giants have 3 drafts to do so. They Giants probably don't even know this.
This draft
Jones 4th year
Next draft
Jones 5th year (he'll be more expensive but cheaper than most starters)
3rd draft
They don't have to rush. But if they find one that's better...they should pull the trigger.
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Post by bizcliz on Oct 26, 2021 12:21:41 GMT -5
Disagree, the kid has shown enough to build around. He also needs to keep running and scrambling. The only plays I don't like are the designed interior QB runs like power/traps/etc. Keep him on the edge and if you're gonna run him up the middle have it be on a draw out of the gun.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Oct 26, 2021 12:47:17 GMT -5
There are absolute priorities on this team. Positions we don’t have nearly enough talent on. QB isnt one of them. He’s at risk of injuring himself. But does that require ANOTHER 1st round pick, or can we fix our lines and defence first? DJ doesn’t have to run if we have a better line. I agree.
Having said that, getting a very good back up QB might be a good plan.
yes but Glennon might be servicable AS A BACKUP? For right now anyway I guess unless there's someone else better that comes available |
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Post by Martin on Oct 26, 2021 13:19:03 GMT -5
These types of QB's get hurt period! It's not if it's when. Every now and then you want to do a RPO around the end that fine. But to run him between the guards is insane and DJ runs head first. If the problem is their OLINE SUCKS then fix it!!
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Post by Delicreep on Oct 26, 2021 13:33:32 GMT -5
There are absolute priorities on this team. Positions we don’t have nearly enough talent on. QB isnt one of them. He’s at risk of injuring himself. But does that require ANOTHER 1st round pick, or can we fix our lines and defence first? DJ doesn’t have to run if we have a better line. DJ is DJ. 3 years in some edges still need to be knocked off. Some of those edges need to be jack hammered off as soon as possible. Fix what can be fixed when it can be fixed and drive on. |
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Post by Delicreep on Oct 26, 2021 13:40:14 GMT -5
There are absolute priorities on this team. Positions we don’t have nearly enough talent on. QB isnt one of them. He’s at risk of injuring himself. But does that require ANOTHER 1st round pick, or can we fix our lines and defence first? DJ doesn’t have to run if we have a better line. I agree.
Having said that, getting a very good back up QB might be a good plan.
For the next few years, go the pound and pick one up...we get a little better it will be worth mid to late rounds draft capital. |
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Post by Merc on Oct 26, 2021 13:44:19 GMT -5
The injuries in Dallas game were a result of revenge for last seasons loss of Dak. A rash of injuries left New York completing the 44-20 loss without quarterback Daniel Jones (concussion), running back Saquon Barkley (ankle), wide receiver Kenny Golladay (knee) and cornerback Rodarius Williams (knee). Does anyone really believe that these were all accidental?
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Post by Sarcasman on Oct 26, 2021 14:30:11 GMT -5
Any strategy that allows us to use our 1s on non-QB picks is a strategy I love. And frankly, hadn’t thought about a really good backup. Very smart. I think that's always the plan. There just aren't many that exist. Glennon is just about as good as any backup. We saw the Panthers backup QB. They're backups for a reason. Are there any teams this year starting their backup QB that are winning any games? |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 26, 2021 14:30:44 GMT -5
Although the data is more than likely not accurate, the premise of the thread is on point. DJ wont last long the way he plays. Reminds me of everyones favorite QB Eric Dungey. When that kid played at Cuse he ran like this. HE didnt have DJs deep ball, but certainly the style is similar.
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Post by DonnieYen on Oct 27, 2021 23:06:05 GMT -5
Because he doesn’t know how to slide, and we keep using him as a running back. DJ has about 3-4 years tops if this play calling coaching style keeps up. Every-time he lowers his head, that’s one less month on his career. You thought that concussion was bad? It’s only going to get worse. Good win, but why do we keep using our “franchise” QB like he’s a power back? This type of offense ruined rg3s career with his knee, it’s going to ruin DJs career with his head. this is a joke right? 🤣😂😆 Jones is having a great year and this is what you complain about? This is what I meant by the thread I made, "Giants Fans Amaze Me" I mean my god Giants fans are the hardest on there team Cowboys and Eagles fans are a walk in the park compared to Giants fans. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 27, 2021 23:16:08 GMT -5
Because he doesn’t know how to slide, and we keep using him as a running back. DJ has about 3-4 years tops if this play calling coaching style keeps up. Every-time he lowers his head, that’s one less month on his career. You thought that concussion was bad? It’s only going to get worse. Good win, but why do we keep using our “franchise” QB like he’s a power back? This type of offense ruined rg3s career with his knee, it’s going to ruin DJs career with his head. this is a joke right? 🤣😂😆 Jones is having a great year and this is what you complain about? This is what I meant by the thread I made, "Giants Fans Amaze Me" I mean my god Giants fans are the hardest on there team Cowboys and Eagles fans are a walk in the park compared to Giants fans. I think he means he is afraid Jones will be permanently broken in half in a few years |
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Post by dvision on Oct 28, 2021 1:35:10 GMT -5
The fact of the matter is QB's get injured. Especially when they play behind piss poor O lines. Running QB's take shots all the time but so do pocket passers. Even Brady has admitted to having multiple concussions. Every play is a roll of the dice...
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Post by mendy on Oct 28, 2021 3:35:09 GMT -5
This is an interesting thread .It's saying it's time for a new QB because he does things the old QB he replaced didn't or couldn't do, which many fans complained about.. My opinion as of now we need to up grade the positions on the rest of the team .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 6:37:41 GMT -5
OL, pass rush..... and an actual lockdown corner. QB has improved and shown enough growth to be given his extension....IMHO Problem is if we continue to lose and the new regime.....  |
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 28, 2021 7:09:35 GMT -5
Because he doesn’t know how to slide, and we keep using him as a running back. DJ has about 3-4 years tops if this play calling coaching style keeps up. Every-time he lowers his head, that’s one less month on his career. You thought that concussion was bad? It’s only going to get worse. Good win, but why do we keep using our “franchise” QB like he’s a power back? This type of offense ruined rg3s career with his knee, it’s going to ruin DJs career with his head. this is a joke right? 🤣😂😆 Jones is having a great year and this is what you complain about? This is what I meant by the thread I made, "Giants Fans Amaze Me" I mean my god Giants fans are the hardest on there team Cowboys and Eagles fans are a walk in the park compared to Giants fans. he’s posting about the risk of injury b/c Jones doesn’t slide. |
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Post by devilsadvocate on Oct 28, 2021 8:22:44 GMT -5
Because he doesn’t know how to slide, and we keep using him as a running back. DJ has about 3-4 years tops if this play calling coaching style keeps up. Every-time he lowers his head, that’s one less month on his career. You thought that concussion was bad? It’s only going to get worse. Good win, but why do we keep using our “franchise” QB like he’s a power back? This type of offense ruined rg3s career with his knee, it’s going to ruin DJs career with his head. this is a joke right? 🤣😂😆 Jones is having a great year and this is what you complain about? This is what I meant by the thread I made, "Giants Fans Amaze Me" I mean my god Giants fans are the hardest on there team Cowboys and Eagles fans are a walk in the park compared to Giants fans. Under what criteria is Jones "having a great year"? He is in the bottom half of the league in almost every passing category. |
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Post by Blue Hulk on Oct 28, 2021 11:48:41 GMT -5
DJ is better than a lot of guys entering the league......compared to this years rookie class, DJ is a #1 pick. if DJ did what he does now in college, he would be the #1 pick.
We have a top level QB who is one of the cornerstones of our franchise. Protect Danny Dimes at all costs
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 28, 2021 11:51:08 GMT -5
OL, pass rush..... and an actual lockdown corner. QB has improved and shown enough growth to be given his extension....IMHO Problem is if we continue to lose and the new regime..... If Ratler falls to tbe 5th (if he doesn't transfer) Would ya? Would be a good developmental back up |
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Post by fifthavephil on Oct 28, 2021 11:55:47 GMT -5
OL, pass rush..... and an actual lockdown corner. QB has improved and shown enough growth to be given his extension....IMHO Problem is if we continue to lose and the new regime..... If Ratler falls to tbe 5th (if he doesn't transfer) Would ya? Would be a good developmental back up Rattler, my guess he will transfer to Georgia. Daniels snd Bennett will graduate. |
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