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Post by ThatGuyRich on Oct 29, 2021 9:48:15 GMT -5
If true I hope we get more than a 5th. IMO a 5th rounder never becomes a starter. Especially if a team going for the gold ring has an injury and is in desperate shape at that position. EE should flourish in the Packer offense with Rogers. I'd be mildly surprised if the return is even as good as a fifth ... he is a nine game rental. I understand, your probably right. For me it's not a priority to dump salary or get a low rd draft pick for Engram. I'd just as soon get whatever he gives us this year.
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Post by 3days on Oct 29, 2021 9:49:52 GMT -5
I find myself pretty neutral on this, if he stays, fine, if we get a 6th, fine
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Post by vinnie on Oct 29, 2021 9:54:32 GMT -5
If true I hope we get more than a 5th. IMO a 5th rounder never becomes a starter. Especially if a team going for the gold ring has an injury and is in desperate shape at that position. EE should flourish in the Packer offense with Rogers. I'd be mildly surprised if the return is even as good as a fifth ... he is a nine game rental. Not in Gettlemans world.
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Post by GameTime on Oct 29, 2021 9:54:52 GMT -5
I called it last night the moment Tonyon went down in the NON Giants Football thread. Hope we stole a 5th rounder from them. Giants definitely got more leverage after Tonyon got hurt. If true I hope we get more than a 5th. IMO a 5th rounder never becomes a starter. Especially if a team going for the gold ring has an injury and is in desperate shape at that position. EE should flourish in the Packer offense with Rogers. Unless he still has his drop issues with easy passes.
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Post by imgrate on Oct 29, 2021 9:57:21 GMT -5
If true I hope we get more than a 5th. IMO a 5th rounder never becomes a starter. Especially if a team going for the gold ring has an injury and is in desperate shape at that position. EE should flourish in the Packer offense with Rogers. I'd be mildly surprised if the return is even as good as a fifth ... he is a nine game rental. Well in that case shouldn't it be more than a 3rd and a 5th?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 29, 2021 10:14:22 GMT -5
I did say don't know if this is happening but I misunderstood the context as i said sorry guys carry on thr trade deadline isn't over yet my guess is no one goes anywhere. It's all good Blue. Anytime I can call Twitter a cesspool from a dystopian nightmare, my day is better. So thank you for that opportunity. 100%
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 29, 2021 10:17:17 GMT -5
Barkley traded to the 49ers . . . read it on twitter, sry if i’m wrong.
I’ll put it here rather than start a thread
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 10:53:53 GMT -5
Barkley traded to the 49ers . . . read it on twitter, sry if i’m wrong. I’ll put it here rather than start a thread 😅 Yeah.. I saw that also.. Crazy stuff!!
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Post by kerryisdaman on Oct 29, 2021 10:59:39 GMT -5
I called it last night the moment Tonyon went down in the NON Giants Football thread. Hope we stole a 5th rounder from them. Giants definitely got more leverage after Tonyon got hurt. A 5th round pick is a giveaway. Far from a steal for a starting TE who catches 50 balls a year. EE has more value to us for 10 games than a 5th round pick.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Oct 29, 2021 11:01:06 GMT -5
I'm so glad anyone saying a 5th or 6th round pick is not the GM for the Giants. Just giving away assets for basically nothing is not the way to get better.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 11:09:58 GMT -5
I'm so glad anyone saying a 5th or 6th round pick is not the GM for the Giants. Just giving away assets for basically nothing is not the way to get better. Thanks for sharing this!! LMAO..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 11:13:17 GMT -5
I called it last night the moment Tonyon went down in the NON Giants Football thread. Hope we stole a 5th rounder from them. Giants definitely got more leverage after Tonyon got hurt. A 5th round pick is a giveaway. Far from a steal for a starting TE who catches 50 balls a year. EE has more value to us for 10 games than a 5th round pick. Now I'm disappointed.. So Lemieux isn't even worth 33 catches from a TE.. Damn..
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Post by kerryisdaman on Oct 29, 2021 11:21:49 GMT -5
A 5th round pick is a giveaway. Far from a steal for a starting TE who catches 50 balls a year. EE has more value to us for 10 games than a 5th round pick. Now I'm disappointed.. So Lemieux isn't even worth 33 catches from a TE.. Damn.. The average 5th round pick does not average even 16 starts in the NFL.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 11:24:59 GMT -5
Now I'm disappointed.. So Lemieux isn't even worth 33 catches from a TE.. Damn.. The average 5th round pick does not average over 1 full year in the NFL. These responses are priceless.. Please keep them coming!
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Post by kerryisdaman on Oct 29, 2021 11:36:15 GMT -5
The average 5th round pick does not average over 1 full year in the NFL. These responses are priceless.. Please keep them coming! How many of our 5th and 6th round draft choices from our last 12 drafts are making an impact on our team (or any team) today? 2008-2020 Giants 5th round - 6th round picks Brightwell-Williams Lemieux-Brown Connelly-Slaton McIntosh Moss-Bisnowaty Perkins-Adams Thompson-Davis Berhl-Kennard Taylor McCants Brewer-Jones-Sash-Williams Petrus-Tracy Bomar-Wright Goof-Woodson
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 29, 2021 11:43:04 GMT -5
I'm so glad anyone saying a 5th or 6th round pick is not the GM for the Giants. Just giving away assets for basically nothing is not the way to get better. Most likely, he is walking out of here after 10 games with no return for the team, so ....
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Post by kerryisdaman on Oct 29, 2021 11:49:02 GMT -5
I'm so glad anyone saying a 5th or 6th round pick is not the GM for the Giants. Just giving away assets for basically nothing is not the way to get better. Most likely, he is walking out of here after 10 games with no return for the team, so .... Maybe so but a few things come to mind. 1. People say we will never pay his next contract because it will be high. Why would other teams give a big contract if he is only worth a 6th round pick? 2. We still have a season to play. Are we really going to throw away the season for a 6th round pick? 3. Won't we have a chance to get a compensatory pick if he signs elsewhere?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 11:55:26 GMT -5
These responses are priceless.. Please keep them coming! How many of our 5th and 6th round draft choices from our last 12 drafts are making an impact on our team (or any team) today? 2008-2020 Giants 5th round - 6th round picks Brightwell-Williams Lemieux-Brown Connelly-Slaton McIntosh Moss-Bisnowaty Perkins-Adams Thompson-Davis Berhl-Kennard Taylor McCants Brewer-Jones-Sash-Williams Petrus-Tracy Bomar-Wright Goof-Woodson I was joking and making fun of your made up criteria.. Thanks for doubling down with this one.. I really can't believe you took the time for it but then changing your made up criteria to only be the Giants just adds to the pricelessness of this!! Who knew.. I would also bet that most of them lasted more than a year especially on this terrible team.. I love this place!! Happy Friday and I hope we can have some real team discussions without your insults of course..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 11:58:06 GMT -5
Most likely, he is walking out of here after 10 games with no return for the team, so .... Maybe so but a few things come to mind. 1. People say we will never pay his next contract because it will be high. Why would other teams give a big contract if he is only worth a 6th round pick? 2. We still have a season to play. Are we really going to throw away the season for a 6th round pick? 3. Won't we have a chance to get a compensatory pick if he signs elsewhere? I hope they do and who knows exactly what that would be so it's a matter of getting another 3rd day pick this season or the following one. Since the cap is an issue for next year maybe less draft picks this coming year wouldn't be a good idea..
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Post by kerryisdaman on Oct 29, 2021 12:02:14 GMT -5
How many of our 5th and 6th round draft choices from our last 12 drafts are making an impact on our team (or any team) today? 2008-2020 Giants 5th round - 6th round picks Brightwell-Williams Lemieux-Brown Connelly-Slaton McIntosh Moss-Bisnowaty Perkins-Adams Thompson-Davis Berhl-Kennard Taylor McCants Brewer-Jones-Sash-Williams Petrus-Tracy Bomar-Wright Goof-Woodson I was joking and making fun of your made up criteria.. Thanks for doubling down with this one.. I really can't believe you took the time for it but then changing your made up criteria to only be the Giants just adds to the pricelessness of this!! Who knew.. I would also bet that most of them lasted more than a year even on I love this place!! Happy Friday and I hope we can have some real team discussions without your insults of course.. The average length of a 5th round picks career is around 3.5 years. That average includes less than 1 full season of starts. Originally I posted less than one full year not less than 1 full season of starts so that was my mistake. I have no problem admitting my mistake there. I do not remember saying any insulting names towards you or anyone. Unless you think my making a general post (not quoting anybody) that I'm glad that anybody that thinks a 5th or 6th round pick is a steal is not the Giants GM is some sort of personal insult. That would seem like a large reach.
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Post by Rangers13 on Oct 29, 2021 12:13:12 GMT -5
Scary when the only other player who could be moved to save cap space is Riley Dixon. The rest are primarily chunks of dead money. No question Peppers was gone. Engram for something. Smh, literally the only one to trade unless they really do sell an injured Barkley at a low.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 29, 2021 12:13:28 GMT -5
*yawn* Wake me if it happens
In other news....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 12:18:18 GMT -5
I was joking and making fun of your made up criteria.. Thanks for doubling down with this one.. I really can't believe you took the time for it but then changing your made up criteria to only be the Giants just adds to the pricelessness of this!! Who knew.. I would also bet that most of them lasted more than a year even on I love this place!! Happy Friday and I hope we can have some real team discussions without your insults of course.. The average length of a 5th round picks career is around 3.5 years. That average includes less than 1 full season of starts. Originally I posted less than one full year not less than 1 full season of starts so that was my mistake. I have no problem admitting my mistake there. I do not remember saying any insulting names towards you or anyone. Unless you think my making a general post (not quoting anybody) that I'm glad that anybody that thinks a 5th or 6th round pick is a steal is not the Giants GM is some sort of personal insult. That would seem like a large reach. Maybe I'm a bit frosty today but I don't see how that comment isn't an insult. I don't get the purpose of saying it if it isn't meant to be one.. Moving the criteria to starts makes more sense and I would hate to see it for 6th rounders since the Giants have been relying on them to start at LB for this team these past couple of seasons.. That's just how bad the team truly is!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 12:20:19 GMT -5
*yawn* Wake me if it happens In other news....The new Dream Theater disc is actually good.. I'm also liking the new Mastodon.. Good times in music land..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 12:21:33 GMT -5
I'm curious.. Do you think that Engram is better than Ertz??
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Post by vinnie on Oct 29, 2021 12:23:00 GMT -5
If true I hope we get more than a 5th. IMO a 5th rounder never becomes a starter. Especially if a team going for the gold ring has an injury and is in desperate shape at that position. EE should flourish in the Packer offense with Rogers. Unless he still has his drop issues with easy passes. And the way Rodgers is, he doesn’t give many second chances to guys who drop balls or mess up their routes. EE will be on a short leash with little tolerance. If he pulled that shit he did in the Eagles game against one of the Packers main rivals he would be lucky if Rodgers even looked his way by now.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 29, 2021 12:26:35 GMT -5
*yawn* Wake me if it happens In other news....The new Dream Theater disc is actually good.. I'm also liking the new Mastodon.. Good times in music land.. Just grabbed the new DT on I tunes ...been too busy to give it a proper listen
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 12:26:44 GMT -5
If this happens we all know the story engram gona be a huge success and catch every pass now im a mets 'fan' this is what happens EVERY time. struggling player leaves and finally meets his potential. How many of these are Giants players that leave and will meet their potential?? McCaffery is one other than that I'm seeing this "EVERY time" thing you are throwing out here as incorrect.. I think my point is pretty clear and yes as a mets fan, they get rid of someone with potential, they meet that potential somewhere else. im sorry if it doesnt literally translate to EVERY time, you know what I mean, it happens often and too much, but you want to keep looking for things in my posts to pick at whatever. yesterday you made up an entire line i never said and claimed i said it, so again whatever
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Post by kerryisdaman on Oct 29, 2021 12:27:53 GMT -5
I'm curious.. Do you think that Engram is better than Ertz?? No Ertz is definitely better but Ertz is 32 and had basically demanded a trade.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Oct 29, 2021 12:32:23 GMT -5
The average length of a 5th round picks career is around 3.5 years. That average includes less than 1 full season of starts. Originally I posted less than one full year not less than 1 full season of starts so that was my mistake. I have no problem admitting my mistake there. I do not remember saying any insulting names towards you or anyone. Unless you think my making a general post (not quoting anybody) that I'm glad that anybody that thinks a 5th or 6th round pick is a steal is not the Giants GM is some sort of personal insult. That would seem like a large reach. Maybe I'm a bit frosty today but I don't see how that comment isn't an insult. I don't get the purpose of saying it if it isn't meant to be one.. Moving the criteria to starts makes more sense and I would hate to see it for 6th rounders since the Giants have been relying on them to start at LB for this team these past couple of seasons.. That's just how bad the team truly is!! That was not meant as an insult. If I was insulting somebody I would have quoted them. It was just my opinion. That I'm glad people that think a 5th or 6th round pick is a steal are not our teams GM. The only thing lower is a 7th round pick. I want our GM to maximize our assets not just give them away. In my mind a 5th or 6th round pick is far from a steal for a starting TE in his prime years that catches 50 balls a year. Having a different opinion is not an insult. Even if you said you were glad I'm (specifically me) not the GM I would not take that as an insult.
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