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Post by vinnie on Nov 2, 2021 6:42:07 GMT -5
Juat scanning through threads today and week after week I continue to see the same excuse “XYZ isn’t the problem”. We all know Mara is ultimately responsible but I’m talking specifically about players. Jones isn’t the problem, Hernandez isn’t the problem, the D line isn’t the problem, RB isn’t the problem, EE isn’t the problem…
Where the hell is the accountability? Where was “the steal” Ojulari last night? Hernandez continued to unimpress. Jones being Jones (not good). Bad penalties, drops, poor tackling….it goes on an on. I rarely see a consensus on who is the problem, I just see excuses. I guess I’m just curious if there is a majority of this fan base that can agree on specific players that ARE the problem. Solder seems to be about the only guy I can think of that most of us acknowledge is a huge liability, mostly everyone else seem to get excuses.
Personally I think the majority of the roster is the problem. I could probably name all the players I would keep on one hand.
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 2, 2021 6:45:01 GMT -5
The more appropriate question is: Who ISN’T the problem?
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Nov 2, 2021 6:47:56 GMT -5
Juat scanning through threads today and week after week I continue to see the same excuse “XYZ isn’t the problem”. We all know Mara is ultimately responsible but I’m talking specifically about players. Jones isn’t the problem, Hernandez isn’t the problem, the D line isn’t the problem, RB isn’t the problem, EE isn’t the problem… Where the hell is the accountability? Where was “the steal” Ojulari last night? Hernandez continued to unimpress. Jones being Jones (not good). Bad penalties, drops, poor tackling….it goes on an on. I rarely see a consensus on who is the problem, I just see excuses. I guess I’m just curious if there is a majority of this fan base that can agree on specific players that ARE the problem. Solder seems to be about the only guy I can think of that most of us acknowledge is a huge liability, mostly everyone else seem to get excuses. Personally I think the majority of the roster is the problem. I could probably name all the players I would keep on one hand. When everyone is the problem it means the GM is the ultimate problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 6:51:16 GMT -5
It would be a shorter list if you asked who isn't the problem..
I'm especially nauseated with how dumb this team plays with all these stupid penalties, those 3 yards routes on 3rd and 4 and zero timeouts at the end of each half..
Could go on and on but lets face it a few of us were not liking how this team has been constructed (trust the process) and have been on Getty since the 1st draft but I couldn't imagine they would be this terrible..
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Post by bluebuddha on Nov 2, 2021 6:54:37 GMT -5
Juat scanning through threads today and week after week I continue to see the same excuse “XYZ isn’t the problem”. We all know Mara is ultimately responsible but I’m talking specifically about players. Jones isn’t the problem, Hernandez isn’t the problem, the D line isn’t the problem, RB isn’t the problem, EE isn’t the problem… Where the hell is the accountability? Where was “the steal” Ojulari last night? Hernandez continued to unimpress. Jones being Jones (not good). Bad penalties, drops, poor tackling….it goes on an on. I rarely see a consensus on who is the problem, I just see excuses. I guess I’m just curious if there is a majority of this fan base that can agree on specific players that ARE the problem. Solder seems to be about the only guy I can think of that most of us acknowledge is a huge liability, mostly everyone else seem to get excuses. Personally I think the majority of the roster is the problem. I could probably name all the players I would keep on one hand. When everyone is the problem it means the GM is the ultimate problem. It also means the coaches can't coach. If he rookies aren't learning and the free agents forget how to play then the coaches need to go also. It really points to systemic problems that we can't see. |
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Post by GameTime on Nov 2, 2021 7:08:07 GMT -5
the degree of fault varries from game to game but over all
Ownership
DG
JJ
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DJ
Injuries
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Post by piddy283 on Nov 2, 2021 7:13:53 GMT -5
I continue to put a lot of the blame on Jason Garrett. His play calling is passive and completely unimpressive. I think our offense looks completely different with another OC.
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 2, 2021 7:15:47 GMT -5
I continue to put a lot of the blame on Jason Garrett. His play calling is passive and completely unimpressive. I think our offense looks completely different with another OC. This is the offense that Judge wants |
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Post by hadenough on Nov 2, 2021 7:16:38 GMT -5
The problem has been the same for a decade…oline and defensive front 7. Every year looks the same cause they still can’t block great, can’t get to the QB, and have no LBers to make plays.
Unfortunately 98% of the time Ojulari is invisible.
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Post by spaceweather on Nov 2, 2021 7:18:25 GMT -5
1) Mara
2) DG
3) Joe Judge - no way he should be back but he will because problem #1 is an idiot.
4) Jason Garrett
5) Injuries
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 2, 2021 7:28:38 GMT -5
can’t find a position in this org which isn’t a problem. Not sure any are a solution.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 2, 2021 7:31:20 GMT -5
Juat scanning through threads today and week after week I continue to see the same excuse “XYZ isn’t the problem”. We all know Mara is ultimately responsible but I’m talking specifically about players. Jones isn’t the problem, Hernandez isn’t the problem, the D line isn’t the problem, RB isn’t the problem, EE isn’t the problem… Where the hell is the accountability? Where was “the steal” Ojulari last night? Hernandez continued to unimpress. Jones being Jones (not good). Bad penalties, drops, poor tackling….it goes on an on. I rarely see a consensus on who is the problem, I just see excuses. I guess I’m just curious if there is a majority of this fan base that can agree on specific players that ARE the problem. Solder seems to be about the only guy I can think of that most of us acknowledge is a huge liability, mostly everyone else seem to get excuses. Personally I think the majority of the roster is the problem. I could probably name all the players I would keep on one hand. to me bro and it a nutshell it just seems to be if it ain't one thing it's another with this team as it in someone screwing it up this week, another or others screwing it up next week, and so on and so on so not sure how that gets fixed tbh. Just seems something is very broken and that one week they can beat or compete with the Bucs then next week get away from shit and can't compete or lose to the Jets!! |
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Post by Roosevelt on Nov 2, 2021 7:42:44 GMT -5
The problem has been the same for a decade…oline and defensive front 7. Every year looks the same cause they still can’t block great, can’t get to the QB, and have no LBers to make plays. Unfortunately 98% of the time Ojulari is invisible. It’s tough to pick on the Oline knowing some of these guys are off the street basically, but how bad was it seeing our center pull late and run into our RB? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 7:46:21 GMT -5
Does anybody besides me think that Parcells would be a good GM? Just asking.
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 2, 2021 7:56:11 GMT -5
Juat scanning through threads today and week after week I continue to see the same excuse “XYZ isn’t the problem”. We all know Mara is ultimately responsible but I’m talking specifically about players. Jones isn’t the problem, Hernandez isn’t the problem, the D line isn’t the problem, RB isn’t the problem, EE isn’t the problem… Where the hell is the accountability? Where was “the steal” Ojulari last night? Hernandez continued to unimpress. Jones being Jones (not good). Bad penalties, drops, poor tackling….it goes on an on. I rarely see a consensus on who is the problem, I just see excuses. I guess I’m just curious if there is a majority of this fan base that can agree on specific players that ARE the problem. Solder seems to be about the only guy I can think of that most of us acknowledge is a huge liability, mostly everyone else seem to get excuses. Personally I think the majority of the roster is the problem. I could probably name all the players I would keep on one hand. This is a great point. For me when someone says “insert name here” is the problem, it means switching him out will obviously improve the team. But there’s this assumption that the replacement will ABSOLUTELY be better. And in life that’s just not the case, regardless of how many times people say “it couldn’t get worse”, itt always always can. So people want Judge replaced or Jones replaced or Gettleman replaced, there’s reasons for replacing all of them. But they’re all here because their predecessors were considered “couldn’t get worse”. Probability of improvement is not considered enough. Jones is not a good enough QB to carry this team (the injured version), what’s the statistical probability that this franchise has the talent evaluation skills to find someone BETTER than Jones? What’s the probability they pick someone worse? I’m not making a case to change nothing. IMHO, Jones is good enough for now, Judge is good enough for now, Gettleman’s deal is up and it’s easy to make a case he hasn’t done enough to stay. EE isn’t nearly good enough. The pass rush isn’t nearly good enough. I could say the o line isn’t nearly good enough but we’re missing so many pieces I don’t know what to think. So to me there’s things that are so bad that a change has a high probability of success. But there’s pieces that are good enough for now. One thing is for sure. There is no magic bullet. That one move that turns this franchise from a joke to a contender. This will be a long road back to respectability |
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 2, 2021 8:08:29 GMT -5
Juat scanning through threads today and week after week I continue to see the same excuse “XYZ isn’t the problem”. We all know Mara is ultimately responsible but I’m talking specifically about players. Jones isn’t the problem, Hernandez isn’t the problem, the D line isn’t the problem, RB isn’t the problem, EE isn’t the problem… Where the hell is the accountability? Where was “the steal” Ojulari last night? Hernandez continued to unimpress. Jones being Jones (not good). Bad penalties, drops, poor tackling….it goes on an on. I rarely see a consensus on who is the problem, I just see excuses. I guess I’m just curious if there is a majority of this fan base that can agree on specific players that ARE the problem. Solder seems to be about the only guy I can think of that most of us acknowledge is a huge liability, mostly everyone else seem to get excuses. Personally I think the majority of the roster is the problem. I could probably name all the players I would keep on one hand. This is a great point. For me when someone says “insert name here” is the problem, it means switching him out will obviously improve the team. But there’s this assumption that the replacement will ABSOLUTELY be better. And in life that’s just not the case, regardless of how many times people say “it couldn’t get worse”, itt always always can. So people want Judge replaced or Jones replaced or Gettleman replaced, there’s reasons for replacing all of them. But they’re all here because their predecessors were considered “couldn’t get worse”. Probability of improvement is not considered enough. Jones is not a good enough QB to carry this team (the injured version), what’s the statistical probability that this franchise has the talent evaluation skills to find someone BETTER than Jones? What’s the probability they pick someone worse? I’m not making a case to change nothing. IMHO, Jones is good enough for now, Judge is good enough for now, Gettleman’s deal is up and it’s easy to make a case he hasn’t done enough to stay. EE isn’t nearly good enough. The pass rush isn’t nearly good enough. I could say the o line isn’t nearly good enough but we’re missing so many pieces I don’t know what to think. So to me there’s things that are so bad that a change has a high probability of success. But there’s pieces that are good enough for now. One thing is for sure. There is no magic bullet. That one move that turns this franchise from a joke to a contender. This will be a long road back to respectability The magic bullet seems to lie above Gettleman in the hierarchy unfortunately Last name of Mara |
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Post by Nite on Nov 2, 2021 8:09:10 GMT -5
I continue to put a lot of the blame on Jason Garrett. His play calling is passive and completely unimpressive. I think our offense looks completely different with another OC. This is the offense that Judge wants He is a young guy that thinks like a 70 year old. Weird.. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 2, 2021 8:13:03 GMT -5
This is the offense that Judge wants He is a young guy that thinks like a 70 year old. Weird.. I have a hard time believing this,especially from where he comes from and how divers e and dynamic at times that offense was |
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Post by Providence on Nov 2, 2021 8:15:24 GMT -5
The more appropriate question is: Who ISN’T the problem? Gano? |
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Post by idkaname on Nov 2, 2021 8:22:00 GMT -5
It’s ALL coaching. It’s their job to put them in the best position to win and judge and Garett handicap those chances unthinkable times a game. Stupid to punt back to the chiefs, stupid play calls by garret. You gotta take chances to win and neither are capable. The conservative nature suggests lack of confidence and that trickles into the players…it’s been the reason for blown leads since even coughlins tenure. Playing not to lose - not playing to WIN
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Post by TGTW92 on Nov 2, 2021 8:27:24 GMT -5
The owners being too stubborn to deviate from the "Giants way."
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Post by Nite on Nov 2, 2021 8:29:50 GMT -5
He is a young guy that thinks like a 70 year old. Weird.. I have a hard time believing this,especially from where he comes from and how divers e and dynamic at times that offense was He was a cog in that machine. Didn't have to make any executive decisions, hence lack of HC experience.. Its not a matter of belief, just watch what he does as HC..Ultra super conservative at times. Its almost like he wants to not succeed. Misuse of the weapons that WILL get them injured.. Does not prepare his team for games. (or the season).Come to think of it, an experience HC would not do these things..hmmm so he thinks like a 70 YO w/o any HC experience. He coaches like he knows he doesn't know what he is doing and pretends that he does. Like others have said he is faking it |
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Post by idkaname on Nov 2, 2021 8:33:39 GMT -5
It’s ALL coaching. It’s their job to put them in the best position to win and judge and Garett handicap those chances unthinkable times a game. Stupid to punt back to the chiefs, stupid play calls by garret. You gotta take chances to win and neither are capable. The conservative nature suggests lack of confidence and that trickles into the players…it’s been the reason for blown leads since even coughlins tenure. Playing not to lose - not playing to WIN What does it matter when Goodell and the refs are conspiring to ensure you lose every game? A coaching staff of Lombardi (HC), Belichick (DC) and Walsh (OC) wouldnt make a difference. how many times I gotta prove to you the officials sway games ? And One last time…I’ll reference the packers game in 2011. They aren’t rigged, they’re controlled but in the end it’s possible to overcome with quality play. Which this team clearly cannot execute |
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Post by snyder55 on Nov 2, 2021 8:40:50 GMT -5
when a team puts players on the field who don't know what to do on a given play thats on the coaches and we're seeing that every week, the big problem is what to do about it.
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Post by snyder55 on Nov 2, 2021 8:42:12 GMT -5
When everyone is the problem it means the GM is the ultimate problem. It also means the coaches can't coach. If he rookies aren't learning and the free agents forget how to play then the coaches need to go also. It really points to systemic problems that we can't see. if the teachers don't teach then the students don't learn. |
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Post by DJones19 on Nov 2, 2021 8:47:56 GMT -5
Most of Dave's top draft picks and big free agency signings are hurt.
Working with a practice squad offense, the defense is OK but nothing spectacular.
I'm surprised we kept it within 3 against KC...I thought it was a good effort by the coaching staff and players.
Solder got tossed for 5 yards at the end of the game with one arm. He went airborn...took a flight 5 yards back...quite the sight. Just pointing that out because I've seen that happen at least 5 times this season...I'm not used to seeing linemen get tossed like a bag of potatoes consistently.
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 2, 2021 8:57:09 GMT -5
This is a great point. For me when someone says “insert name here” is the problem, it means switching him out will obviously improve the team. But there’s this assumption that the replacement will ABSOLUTELY be better. And in life that’s just not the case, regardless of how many times people say “it couldn’t get worse”, itt always always can. So people want Judge replaced or Jones replaced or Gettleman replaced, there’s reasons for replacing all of them. But they’re all here because their predecessors were considered “couldn’t get worse”. Probability of improvement is not considered enough. Jones is not a good enough QB to carry this team (the injured version), what’s the statistical probability that this franchise has the talent evaluation skills to find someone BETTER than Jones? What’s the probability they pick someone worse? I’m not making a case to change nothing. IMHO, Jones is good enough for now, Judge is good enough for now, Gettleman’s deal is up and it’s easy to make a case he hasn’t done enough to stay. EE isn’t nearly good enough. The pass rush isn’t nearly good enough. I could say the o line isn’t nearly good enough but we’re missing so many pieces I don’t know what to think. So to me there’s things that are so bad that a change has a high probability of success. But there’s pieces that are good enough for now. One thing is for sure. There is no magic bullet. That one move that turns this franchise from a joke to a contender. This will be a long road back to respectability The magic bullet seems to lie above Gettleman in the hierarchy unfortunately Last name of Mara Agreed. And the least likely probability of change too. |
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Post by vinnie on Nov 2, 2021 9:01:53 GMT -5
The more appropriate question is: Who ISN’T the problem? Lollolol, yeah, that would have been a lot easier. |
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Post by Jomo on Nov 2, 2021 10:33:40 GMT -5
I continue to put a lot of the blame on Jason Garrett. His play calling is passive and completely unimpressive. I think our offense looks completely different with another OC. This is the offense that Judge wants He had a chance in the offseason to change OC. Judge didn't do it so he now owns it. |
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Post by jaymas on Nov 2, 2021 10:35:56 GMT -5
Graham Gano is great. Not super into anyone else though.
But because I typed this, Gano will undoubtedly go into a terrible slump.
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