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Post by scoostraw on Nov 23, 2021 18:14:41 GMT -5
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Nov 23, 2021 18:36:55 GMT -5
Eisen said out loud what all of us know. I thought he hit the nail on the head with an honest assessment of this team at this point.
A lot of questions to think hard about with this team and the 3 people most affected. the GM, HC, and QB.
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 23, 2021 18:39:55 GMT -5
Wish he would turn that sharp wit on the ownership.
He’s leaving out this will be the 5th coach in 6 years and 3rd GM in 5 this off-season.
Doesn’t sound like Judge and Gettleman suck as bad as the team hiring them…….
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 23, 2021 18:46:27 GMT -5
Can't protect the QB so sign Golladay and draft Toney.
Modern day incompetence.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 23, 2021 18:48:10 GMT -5
Wish he would turn that sharp wit on the ownership. He’s leaving out this will be the 5th coach in 6 years and 3rd GM in 5 this off-season. Doesn’t sound like Judge and Gettleman suck as bad as the team hiring them……. Why do so few call out the Mara's publicly on national media? (Unless I've missed this )
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Post by Jomo on Nov 23, 2021 18:52:35 GMT -5
Can't protect the QB so sign Golladay and draft Toney. Modern day incompetence. You missed their logic... It reminds me of JR calling Adrien Robinson a freakish athlete and drafting that other tall drink of water to replace Plax. Do people have half their brains removed as a pre-condition to working for Mara or does he just have a knack for attracting low intellects? This ain't rocket science.
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 23, 2021 19:21:57 GMT -5
Can't protect the QB so sign Golladay and draft Toney. Modern day incompetence. We had no room for Rashawn Slater … we had Matt Peart!!
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Post by SG88 on Nov 23, 2021 19:27:02 GMT -5
Wish he would turn that sharp wit on the ownership. He’s leaving out this will be the 5th coach in 6 years and 3rd GM in 5 this off-season. Doesn’t sound like Judge and Gettleman suck as bad as the team hiring them……. Why do so few call out the Mara's publicly on national media? (Unless I've missed this ) They call him out for things like the whole taunting rule changes that he lead the charge on. Other than that, they treat him like he is football royalty when he is truly nothing but a wannabe football guy and trust fund baby that is in way over his head.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 23, 2021 19:37:13 GMT -5
Can't protect the QB so sign Golladay and draft Toney. Modern day incompetence. We had no room for Rashawn Slater … we had Matt Peart!! and such a screwed up cap they had to keep Solder.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 23, 2021 19:39:50 GMT -5
Why do so few call out the Mara's publicly on national media? (Unless I've missed this ) They call him out for things like the whole taunting rule changes that he lead the charge on. Other than that, they treat him like he is football royalty when he is truly nothing but a wannabe football guy and trust fund baby that is in way over his head. I had actually hoped I was wrong and someone lit them up This doesn't count unfortunately
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Post by scoostraw on Nov 23, 2021 19:42:45 GMT -5
Can't protect the QB so sign Golladay and draft Toney. Modern day incompetence. Right - they sign Golladay to a zillion dollar contract, but let both Jamon Brown and Kevin Zeitler walk. The OL could be very good right now, were it not for complete stupidity when it comes to personnel decisions.
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Post by scoostraw on Nov 23, 2021 19:44:43 GMT -5
It reminds me of JR calling Adrien Robinson a freakish athlete Careful now. You are speaking about the "JPP of tight ends".
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 23, 2021 19:53:09 GMT -5
Can't protect the QB so sign Golladay and draft Toney. Modern day incompetence. Right - they sign Golladay to a zillion dollar contract, but let both Jamon Brown and Kevin Zeitler walk. The OL could be very good right now, were it not for complete stupidity when it comes to personnel decisions. Don't get me started... *breaks out Lucille and looks for Mr Ed again * 2018...keep flowers at LT,draft Orlando Brown instead of Hill in the 3rd (I'm not changing Hernandez because I was jumping up and down when we were on the clock and he was there in the 2nd) Don't spend a comp 3rd on Beal ....meaning we have our 2019 3rd 2019..Don't but the Wish version of Cruz to replace Odell.... Take Dalton Risner. (Hell..do the trade up still so we have him on the 5th year option) Terry McLaurin with the 3rd we kept instead of a Beal pick 2020..hell..Take Wirfs at 4 as Brown probably is our LT... Do something else instead of Peart....take Lemieux in the 5th .. This past year still do the trade down and take Toney All these players are now the core of a young offense around Jones McClauren Toney Brown,Wirfs,Risner.. We have a solid O line and playmakers all on rookie deals .. If Jones is still meh we have our 2 firsts to trade for Wilson and the offense is set and cap space for him But
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Post by lt56 on Nov 23, 2021 20:07:52 GMT -5
I knew Garrett playcalling was bad but WTF was this...
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Post by thetruth on Nov 23, 2021 20:22:37 GMT -5
Can't protect the QB so sign Golladay and draft Toney. Modern day incompetence. We had no room for Rashawn Slater … we had Matt Peart!! this actually kills me. I can't believe how much the Giants fans thought Weapons was what Dan was missing.
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Post by thetruth on Nov 23, 2021 20:26:02 GMT -5
I knew Garrett playcalling was bad but WTF was this... Why didn't Dan check out of a man-beating route concept (mesh concept) by clearing seeing it was going to be zone pre-snap? Ya'll acting like a NFL QBs dont routinely sniff this our pre-snap check them into the right play. Our expectations of a franchise QB are pathetically low if all we except of him is being an body for the OC. That was Goff in a nutshell. Dont want that kind of QB
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 23, 2021 20:52:52 GMT -5
Why do so few call out the Mara's publicly on national media? (Unless I've missed this ) They call him out for things like the whole taunting rule changes that he lead the charge on. Other than that, they treat him like he is football royalty when he is truly nothing but a wannabe football guy and trust fund baby that is in way over his head. Putting it nicely.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 23, 2021 21:00:50 GMT -5
I knew Garrett playcalling was bad but WTF was this... Why didn't Dan check out of a man-beating route concept (mesh concept) by clearing seeing it was going to be zone pre-snap? Ya'll acting like a NFL QBs dont routinely sniff this our pre-snap check them into the right play. Our expectations of a franchise QB are pathetically low if all we except of him is being an body for the OC. That was Goff in a nutshell. Dont want that kind of QB The question is is he allowed to check out of plays? I have seen so many plays run into brick walls and badly designed plays that I have my doubts he was able to. Some OCs don't give you the opportunity to...which i find ludicrous. (Haley was notorious for this,which is why he had issues with Big Ben )
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Post by TCHOF on Nov 23, 2021 21:01:19 GMT -5
Can't protect the QB so sign Golladay and draft Toney. Modern day incompetence. Right - they sign Golladay to a zillion dollar contract, but let both Jamon Brown and Kevin Zeitler walk. The OL could be very good right now, were it not for complete stupidity when it comes to personnel decisions. Not sure Jamon Brown is a good example - he’s not vey good. Hasn’t been in the league for a year or so
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 23, 2021 21:06:30 GMT -5
Right - they sign Golladay to a zillion dollar contract, but let both Jamon Brown and Kevin Zeitler walk. The OL could be very good right now, were it not for complete stupidity when it comes to personnel decisions. Not sure Jamon Brown is a good example - he’s not vey good. Hasn’t been in the league for a year or so He was a half season mirage because he was so much better than the guy he replaced... But still a jag
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Post by Sarcasman on Nov 23, 2021 21:17:32 GMT -5
We had no room for Rashawn Slater … we had Matt Peart!! this actually kills me. I can't believe how much the Giants fans thought Weapons was what Dan was missing. We've been saying that for ten years. Hog Mollys!
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Post by thetruth on Nov 23, 2021 21:20:09 GMT -5
this actually kills me. I can't believe how much the Giants fans thought Weapons was what Dan was missing. We've been saying that for ten years. Hog Mollys! 100% but man, even this last offseason fans still didn't think OL was a need because Lemieux and Peart. Like come on, im pretty sure the Management believed that too Ignorance is bliss, I suppose
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Post by cruzsoldier on Nov 23, 2021 21:33:49 GMT -5
Can't protect the QB so sign Golladay and draft Toney. Modern day incompetence. We had no room for Rashawn Slater … we had Matt Peart!! I wanted Slater or Parsons the both looking great Slater looks like a pro bowler for years to come and we passed actually cause of Shane Lemieux who was probably the worse pass block guard in football the year prior....Great job Gettlemen.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 23, 2021 22:22:26 GMT -5
We had no room for Rashawn Slater … we had Matt Peart!! I wanted Slater or Parsons the both looking great Slater looks like a pro bowler for years to come and we passed actually cause of Shane Lemieux who was probably the worse pass block guard in football the year prior....Great job Gettlemen. Chicago paid a hefty price for that pick. Let’s be honest, despite the glaring OL holes the Giants wanted DeVonta Smith so they were passing on OL yet again. That pick looks nice today yet what are the Giants using it on? Finally OL a year later or is BAP a different position yet again? Slater was the right pick IMO while the Parson rumors were everywhere. Who knows, he might have an offseason issue so let’s see. Slater would have been real nice.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 23, 2021 22:25:20 GMT -5
We've been saying that for ten years. Hog Mollys! 100% but man, even this last offseason fans still didn't think OL was a need because Lemieux and Peart. Like come on, im pretty sure the Management believed that too Ignorance is bliss, I suppose that’s the Gettleman fan club. They raved about the OL when the team wasn’t playing. Even the scabs brought in was considered genius. Just wait until the offseason again lol. The rest knew the OL stunk.
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Post by scoostraw on Nov 24, 2021 9:14:24 GMT -5
Not sure Jamon Brown is a good example - he’s not vey good. Hasn’t been in the league for a year or so Wait a minute... are u saying he's AVAILABLE?? ;)
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Post by cruzsoldier on Nov 24, 2021 22:53:25 GMT -5
I wanted Slater or Parsons the both looking great Slater looks like a pro bowler for years to come and we passed actually cause of Shane Lemieux who was probably the worse pass block guard in football the year prior....Great job Gettlemen. Chicago paid a hefty price for that pick. Let’s be honest, despite the glaring OL holes the Giants wanted DeVonta Smith so they were passing on OL yet again. That pick looks nice today yet what are the Giants using it on? Finally OL a year later or is BAP a different position yet again? Slater was the right pick IMO while the Parson rumors were everywhere. Who knows, he might have an offseason issue so let’s see. Slater would have been real nice. Well the best part about that might be that it won't be the incompetent Gettlemen making that selection. I really want to believe it was Mara who forced Gettlemen to keep Eli and select Barkley to make Eli an average to ok QB being that he was already way washed. Looking at all Gentlemen's mistakes and the teams record in his 4 seasons as the GM there is no way he should still be the GM next season.
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